PrimeAceJohn Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I know this is probably 1 of the most weird fusions ever, but i saw the pic and i knew i had to use it. Rate, like, hate, etc. [spoiler=MSE version] [img]http://i45.tinypic.com/4rritu.jpg[/img] 1 Machine-Type = 1 Dragon-Type Monsters This card is also treated as a Machine-Type Monster while face-up on the field. Once per turn, you can activate 1 of the following effects: *Send 1 Dragon-Type Monster from your hand to the graveyard to have this card gain 800 ATK until the End Phase *Remove from play 1 face-up Machine-Type Monster you control: draw 2 cards.[/spoiler] [spoiler=YCM version] [IMG]http://i47.tinypic.com/eg2z3d.jpg[/IMG] 1 Machine-Type = 1 Dragon-Type Monsters This card is also treated as a Machine-Type Monster while face-up on the field. Once per turn, you can activate 1 of the following effects: *Send 1 Dragon-Type Monster from your hand to the graveyard to have this card gain 800 ATK until the End Phase *Remove from play 1 face-up Machine-Type Monster you control: draw 2 cards.[/spoiler] [spoiler=Yugico version] [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/x6n1pt.jpg[/IMG] 1 Machine-Type = 1 Dragon-Type Monsters This card is also treated as a Machine-Type Monster while face-up on the field. Once per turn, you can activate 1 of the following effects: *Send 1 Dragon-Type Monster from your hand to the graveyard to have this card gain 800 ATK until the End Phase *Remove from play 1 face-up Machine-Type Monster you control: draw 2 cards.[/spoiler]Btw, in the lores, there's an = instead of a + sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 You're right, it is a rather weird fusion... The only 2 things hampering it from seeing play are the low ATK (I'd bump it up to 2500) and the fact that it doesn't have a good deck (that I can think of). The -1 for the 800 boost is *ok*, and rather fair when you stop and think about it. The second effect is a nifty +1 that requires you to give something up, and it's, like, really powerful, considering how gadgets already maintain crazy hand advantage, but not really OP. If I were you, I'd honestly make its fusion materials 2 Machine-type monsters so that gadgets can have some fun with it and make its first effect activate via discarding a machine. But keep it as a dragon: Chimerafag Fortress Dragon already has enough Machine-Type fuel as it is. Take that ya pretentious bastard! XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeAceJohn Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1358106885' post='6119815'] You're right, it is a rather weird fusion... The only 2 things hampering it from seeing play are the low ATK (I'd bump it up to 2500) and the fact that it doesn't have a good deck (that I can think of). The -1 for the 800 boost is *ok*, and rather fair when you stop and think about it. The second effect is a nifty +1 that requires you to give something up, and it's, like, really powerful, considering how gadgets already maintain crazy hand advantage, but not really OP. If I were you, I'd honestly make its fusion materials 2 Machine-type monsters so that gadgets can have some fun with it and make its first effect activate via discarding a machine. But keep it as a dragon: Chimerafag Fortress Dragon already has enough Machine-Type fuel as it is. Take that ya pretentious bastard! XD [/quote] Lol, yeaah I made this card 3 months ago and decided to post this up without any changes... The point of this card was to make it fun in a sense of building a different - yet weird deck based on this card. Running dragons and machines is weird; but weird is good! It makes you have much more possibilities in running decks. I knew this card was somewhat under powered, so the +800 made it strong (the dragon part of it) for battle and the +2 cards by tributing machines was for gear power (the machine part of it.) You were completely right about the second effect because that was my intent. In the future, this card will have better effects. I'm just too lazy to go through all 3 of those templates, change them, save them, put them through TinyPic, and paste it on here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Darj Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I don't like how the second one is more rewarding than the first: Dragon effect: You lose a card (-1) only to gain 800 ATK, which might not be even enough to beat that 3000+ ATK beastick on the opponent's side. Machine effect: You give up 1 monster, but then draw 2 so you end with +1 card. My suggestion would be to balance both effects so they both give you 1 card, or none at all. For instance, the dragon part could banish a Dragon from the graveyard to gain the ATK boost (that way there won't be any card loss), and the machine part could let you draw 1 card instead of 2. I was about to suggest to change it to DARK Machine-Type so you would be able to Summon it with "Overload Fusion", but that won't be needed because of "Dragon's Mirror". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeAceJohn Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 [quote name='Voltex' timestamp='1358127739' post='6120100'] I don't like how the second one is more rewarding than the first: Dragon effect: You lose a card (-1) only to gain 800 ATK, which might not be even enough to beat that 3000+ ATK beastick on the opponent's side. Machine effect: You give up 1 monster, but then draw 2 so you end with +1 card. My suggestion would be to balance both effects so they both give you 1 card, or none at all. For instance, the dragon part could banish a Dragon from the graveyard to gain the ATK boost (that way there won't be any card loss), and the machine part could let you draw 1 card instead of 2. I was about to suggest to change it to DARK Machine-Type so you would be able to Summon it with "Overload Fusion", but that won't be needed because of "Dragon's Mirror". [/quote] You have to remember how easily this card could be summoned in a fantasy Dragon/machine type deck... Combining ANY dragon with ANY machine should come out to be such a strong monster - I had to make it just a little below underpowered. This card does not necessary have to be summoned with Gadgets. The gadget effect made it come in handy - since gadgets are all about summoning eachother; simply tributing just 1 and drawing 2, by itself, is a great effect. The dragon effect was just an add-on. It was a good way to be able to defeat some of your opponent's monster - a 2800 beater isn't bad at all, even though this card is supposed to be mainly summoned in defense position. Summoning this guy gives you 2 main options: Put in attack and mainly use the dragon effect Put in defense and mainly use the machine effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainagain Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I love this card, it is a very nice card lots of decks can use it I suggest: Cyber Dark... The first effect is ok, but the second effect is preety OP..., so here is what im thinkin: "1 Machine-Type = 1 Dragon-Type Monsters This card is also treated as a Machine-Type Monster while face-up on the field. Up to twice per turn, you can activate 1 of the following effects: *Send 1 Dragon-Type Monster from your hand to the graveyard to have this card gain 800 ATK until the End Phase *Remove from play 1 face-up Machine-Type Monster from your hand: draw 1 card." I will rate it 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 [quote name='Rainagain' timestamp='1358174866' post='6120542'] I love this card, it is a very nice card lots of decks can use it I suggest: Cyber Dark... [/quote] Oh sure. Because a card like this would surely make people play CyberDarks. OT: I'm not sure if there are any decks that utilize Machines and Dragons. The best Machine deck ATM is Geargia Machina and it runs exactly zero Dragons. While Dragons are pretty dead after Konami mutilated 2 REDMDs. I get your point with the fantasy Machine+Dragon thing but based from my own experience, Dragons and Machines really don't work well together. Dragons are all about going absolutely insane with SSing while Machines is more like precision and consistency. Together, they become really bad and awkward, at least that's how I see it. As for the card, I just kept wishing that the materials are 2 Machines so Geargia/Machina/Gadgets can go bonkers with it's draw effect. The ATK effect is quite nifty, but I fear it's overshadowed by it's last one As it is though, it's a really awkward can that would probably not see play. There are just some things that don't work well together and Dragon + Machines are one of them. Case in point, CyberDarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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