Agro Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I've stopped running it in most of my decks because whenever I CAN make it, I either don't want to or can't afford to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 This and Avance can help topdeck for Zealgigas... And I love the foolish burial effect... decent card imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 its a godsend in oni zombies. those loops............ in other decks, well. if youve got lots of quick and easy grave retrieval then sure. but its not stapleworthy on its own merits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I'll just use Verz as an example since I've been playing them more recently: 1. I don't have that many good topdecks outside DAD. 2. I don't really want to dump a monster into the Graveyard 3. Topdecking a card doesn't help if the opponent can kill me beforehand, making Ophion and that Beetle much more important targets. So really, I just don't see the need to run it when I can run a card I'll more than likely need to go into at one point or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Reversal Quiz OTK with Backs to the Wall. No, that's silly. Good but overrated, but not to the point Steelswarm Roach was back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I use it in a lot of my Decks, especially my Gogogo Deck and also one of my other Photon builds (Call of the Haunted is a crucial combo piece alongside Sacred Crane and Summoner Monk and Zephyros). I usually use Emeral more often of the two, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Honestly, it's only useful in a deck that needs it for an OTK, to topdeck their goddraw, or dump cards in the Graveyard. Most meta decks this format don't really need that (Prophecy, Evilswarm, Constellar, E Dragons, Mermails) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 It's a card that you put it in where you need it, and nowhere else *obvious* Although stacking your BLS is quite cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Very useful for Combo-related decks, but otherwise, its not that great as a general toolbox card. The stacking effect is slow and can easily backfire on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Over-rated as all hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Gem-Knights abuse it to no end. Otherwise... I rarely find use for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Gem-Knights abuse it to no end. Otherwise... I rarely find use for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 [quote name="Dragonic Shardlord" post="6160947" timestamp="1363177931"][quote name="Stellar Black" post="6160825" timestamp="1363141623"]Gem-Knights abuse it to no end. Otherwise... I rarely find use for it.[/quote] [/quote] I said rarely, because I don't play Infagitards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 I said rarely, because I don't play Infagitards. get out :( infernities take skill yknow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Gem-Knights abuse it to no end. Otherwise... I rarely find use for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 [quote name="Dragonic Shardlord" post="6160959" timestamp="1363180583"]get out :( infernities take skill yknow[/quote] You mean they require knowing loops and no skill whatsoever? [quote name="clairedestroyer" post="6160963" timestamp="1363181009"][/quote] Again, "rarely". I know uses exist, such as the fact that I've seen Dragon Noir/Hopeless Draon run it, but I rarely have use for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 You mean they require knowing loops and no skill whatsoever? Again, "rarely". I know uses exist, such as the fact that I've seen Dragon Noir/Hopeless Draon run it, but I rarely have use for it. oh i know. im just harping on it because its absolutely one of my favorite cards is all. hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 You mean they require knowing loops and no skill whatsoever? lol you don't understand them. i just love it when people think they understand the deck and don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 lol you don't understand them. i just love it when people think they understand the deck and don't I just love it when people play decks that are completely detrimental for the game, then act like they're superior for it. I know it's not all loops, and the only loop you'll generally be doing is Hundred-Eyes loop, but even then... where's the skill? All you do is abuse the same few cards over and over. There's no skill in that. Knowing what to search is hardly "skillful". If you feel they're so skillful, name the reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 I just love it when people play decks that are completely detrimental for the game, then act like they're superior for it. I know it's not all loops, and the only loop you'll generally be doing is Hundred-Eyes loop, but even then... where's the skill? All you do is abuse the same few cards over and over. There's no skill in that. Knowing what to search is hardly "skillful". If you feel they're so skillful, name the reasons. Infernities are incredibly skillful, albeit fucking stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 I know it's not all loops, and the only loop you'll generally be doing is Hundred-Eyes loop, but even then... where's the skill? <2013 <HED Loop hahaha no. also, you have to think turns in advance, know when and where to use your barriers, remember long ass combos, and mostly play on the fact realising that if you lose your field presence you lose. it's extremely risk/reward, it makes sense that the deck with the highest risk gives you the biggest reward once you can play it right. also, it being detrimental doesn't mean shit, even though it isn't. if shit is broken, i'll abuse it, kthxbai. Infernities are incredibly skillful, albeit fucking stupid. stupid in a cool way though, you have to admit, watching someone play infernities is really cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hounds Of Anubis Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 <2013<HED Loop hahaha no. also, you have to think turns in advance, know when and where to use your barriers, remember long ass combos, and mostly play on the fact realising that if you lose your field presence you lose. it's extremely risk/reward, it makes sense that the deck with the highest risk gives you the biggest reward once you can play it right. also, it being detrimental doesn't mean shit, even though it isn't. if shit is broken, i'll abuse it, kthxbai.Think turns in advance? You mean consider "x card lets me go off, any other card and I scoop." Yeah, so much skill involved there. Barrier is one of the most simple cards in the game to use. Memory is not "skill". If you lose your field presence in yugioh in general, you tend to lose, this is a tempo game, not necessarily one of resources. High risk/High reward is an abysmal justification for a deck, and if anything goes to show how little skill goes into a deck. With consistency comes skill, with inconsistency comes dice rolls - Quite the opposite effect. High risk by definition is either an easily halted, or inconsistent strategy; Infernities fall under both.If shit were broken, you could abuse it, but Infernities are shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Should've been 1900 ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Think turns in advance? You mean consider "x card lets me go off, any other card and I scoop." Yeah, so much skill involved there. Barrier is one of the most simple cards in the game to use. Memory is not "skill". If you lose your field presence in yugioh in general, you tend to lose, this is a tempo game, not necessarily one of resources. High risk/High reward is an abysmal justification for a deck, and if anything goes to show how little skill goes into a deck. With consistency comes skill, with inconsistency comes dice rolls - Quite the opposite effect. High risk by definition is either an easily halted, or inconsistent strategy; Infernities fall under both. If shit were broken, you could abuse it, but Infernities are shite. ... you pretty much proved exactly why you don't talk about infernities on an internet forum: it's bound to be full of people who don't actually play the deck. If you have to scoop because you didn't draw what you wanted you suck at the deck, harsh truth. I've won with a opening hand of 6 monsters, multiple times. Barrier may be simple to use, but using it correctly is a different story. By think in advance, I meant that: Your field presence is everything, more than any other deck, unless you have multiple barriers or another backup card, you have to think about what to actually use it on. "if i barrier this and (s)he has heavy/hole i basicially lose, so do i let this go on the grounds that i'll be able to negate that card if (s)he plays it, or do i negate that and run the risk?" Also, Infernities(if built right) are not inconsistent as you seemingly say they are. Unless I'm some godmod and been able to atleast set-up in almost every game I've played in 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hounds Of Anubis Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 If you have to scoop because you didn't draw what you wanted you suck at the deck, harsh truth.I shouldn't have to refute anything. This says how dumb what you just said is all by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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