Airride Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 You can Normal Summon or Set this card without Tributing. If you do, its original ATK and DEF are halved. Or maybe we have, and the search isn't finding it. Anyways, Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 i was about to post this you bastard DARK, Machine, 7, usable with EEV. Yeah it's a good card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 I find it amusing how you can basically Flip Summon a 2800 beater.Anyway-Every time I see this card, it makes me think of that old Fusilier Monarch deck I made ages ago.Deck was awesome, but now-a-days would be impossible to recreate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 I pulled one in ulti and it looks sooooo badass. The fact that it is level 7 makes it a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Wait, so if you Set it, its ATK and DEF aren't halved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Wait, so if you Set it, its ATK and DEF aren't halved?Mmhm. That's why the OCG uses it with Eradicator Epidemic for their Prophecy match-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 I did not know that. I'm going to go put this in my side now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 It's funny how new formats makes random cards like this one become good all of a sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopy Star - Eon Sphere Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Uh, I don't think that you can just set without tribute it for it to have 2800 ATK. Every WC game I've played has it at 1400 if it is Normal Summoned or Set without Tribute, and I don't think that Konami would build such an obvious loophole into that effect. Well, Konami back then, anyway. Eh, still good though. Comes second to Barbaros, though, at least in Drain decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 The fact that it is level 7 makes it a lot better. Ironic that 7 was considered pretty much the worst level (except, well, 9 and 11, but those practically don't even exist) for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 If you Set it without Tribute it will be 2800 while face-down but as soon as it's flipped face-up its effect will be applied. So you can use EEV while it's Set. It's good for Big Eye with Machina Fortress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 i like it over barbaros because level 7 is better for synchros. just all around a really cool card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Right. If you Set it, it still has 2800 ATK while it's FACEDOWN, thus making it usable with the Virus cards. When flipped up, either by battle, card effect, or Flip Summon, its ATK and DEF being halved is applied, like Barbaros is. Back when this was printed, the technical loophole was irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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