Toffee. Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 If you don't know what Rabbit does, then I don't even knowYo dawg, I herd u like Dinos-*Hand already contains 2 of your 3 Sabersaurus*We all know you can run like 2 Rabbit, 3 specific Normals, and no other Normal monsters. Why would you care? As long as you can open Rabbit to make Laggia/Ophion/Gigant X/etc, that's all that matters.So outside of Xyz shenanigans, does Rabbit truly have any redeeming qualities?Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Of course, what you do with this card is use it and another Level 4 monster to make Utopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 It's clear they TRIED so hard to balance it. They took all of Rescue Cat's OPed factors and made sure you couldn't do anything with them to abuse it. -Rescue Cat was often recruited with Summoner Monk and/or Giant Rat. Solution: Rescue Rabbit cannot be SSed from the Deck. -Rescue Cat was frequently Special Summoned from the Graveyard to spam its effect easily. Solution: Rescue Rabbit banishes itself to activate. -Rescue Cat was still commonly accessible to be used multiple times a turn. Solution: Rescue Rabbit and all copies of it can only be used once per turn. -Rescue Cat could Summon a variety of different monsters to fit the situation, either by their effect, or by Levels. Solution: Rescue Rabbit Special Summons Normal Monsters, and they must have the same name. There, all set to be a balanced card to support Xyz, right? Except they overlooked that the Xyz themselves would be too good. Rescue Cat was limited to Beast monsters, and only Level 3 or below. Rescue Rabbit can Summon Level 4 monsters of ANY Type. They just need the same name and be Normal Monsters. So, Rescue Rabbit is the fastest, most deadly way to Summon a Rank 4. So close, Konami...and then you made the Rank 4s the easiest and most flexible monster Level for Xyz. And even the non-generic ones like Laggia, originally given more power because it was non-generic, became laughably easy to abuse. BUT...even then, Rescue Rabbit could have been reasonably balanced. If not for that meddlesome TCG Exclusive known as Tour Guide. But Tour Guide's mere Level 3 was deceptive, for its effect was a mirror of Rescue Rabbit, in the sense that where Rabbit was an instant Rank 4...Guide was an instant Rank 3. And what Rank 3 Xyz makes Guide so special? A little guy known as Leviair, the Sea Dragon, a deceptively evil 1800 ATK monster that can Special Summon a Level 4 or lower banished monster. Like...Rescue Rabbit? And to add fuel, Tour Guide had a friend named Sangan, and while Sangan's effects on the Field would be negated by Tour Guide, and its effect was useless if used as Xyz Material...Sangan's effect doesn't care if it's negated on the Field. So Tour Guide thinned the Deck to Summon Sangan, and if Sangan left the Field...it could search a variety of monsters. Like...Rescue Rabbit? So yeah, Rescue Rabbit tried so hard to be balanced, but the more Xyz that get released, the more flexible it can become. The Evilswarm arrived, eagerly displaying their Level 4 Normal Monster, which can become any of the Evilswarm Xyz. Ophion, Bahamut, Nightmare, whatever. Laggia was one example, then the TCG displayed the power of Dolkka, too. Okay, ran out of dramatic fodder. Card tried to be balanced, totally wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Honestly I like this card because it made low level vanillas actually playable. You can argue if it's well designed or not, but you have to give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtlegary Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Outside of Xyz summons, rabbit does have other uses, Gem-Knights: for fusion materials Gladiator Beasts: for easy Heraklinos Normal Tuners: Self-Explanatory And tribute summoning if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Outside of Xyz summons, rabbit does have other uses, Gem-Knights: for fusion materials Gladiator Beasts: for easy Heraklinos Normal Tuners: Self-Explanatory And tribute summoning if you want. Gem-Knights: 9/10 times you're supposed to be using it to make Lavalval Chain to further your plays, seeing as that's the deck that uses Chain best. They Xyz with Rabbit a LOT. Gladiator Beasts: lolrabbitGB Normal Tuners: Have fun synching 2 Tuners together Tribute Summoning only works if you have Double Summon, which shows how shit any deck using Rabbit like that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtlegary Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Normal Tuners: Have fun synching 2 Tuners together Obviously, you use other monsters to synchro with. it might even set up for synchroing twice, depending on what tuner you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headmaster Monokuma Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Obviously, you use other monsters to synchro with. it might even set up for synchroing twice, depending on what tuner you get. You are horrid at this game. OT: evilfusion pretty much summed it up. It's obvious that they actually tried here, but then they didn't bother to balance the Xyz it can summon. Honestly, I think this was their breaking point. "Oh, we couldn't even balance a Rabbit, well... Let's stop giving a fuck." Then we got Wind-Ups, Inzektors, and Hieratics, which evolved into Mermails, Prophecy, and E-Dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Normal Tuners: Have fun synching 2 Tuners together GOTTOMS At least we can say Rabbit being as powerful as it is was an oversight, unlike those dragons, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 here's the funny part With prophecies and e-dragons, rabbit isn't even near a priority hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 [quote name=".Accel" post="6173755" timestamp="1364858596"]here's the funny part With prophecies and e-dragons, rabbit isn't even near a priority hit[/quote] If by funny you mean pathetic, then that's absolutely correct. Rabbit makes a lot of fun decks possible, but it also makes Dino Rabbit a deck and Verz a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 tl;dr, my avatar. At 2, still consistent enough to help certain other decks survive, and even do well in the case of Evilswarm (Dino Rabbit are Tier 2, they lost some consistency with the the death of Critter and are not as fast as the various other meta decks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 rabbit isn't even near a priority hitThis topic wasn't even about Rabbit's list position anyway O,o Card tried to be balanced, totally wasn't.AT FIRST is was balanced.Then people remembered Dinosaurs were a card, and then Verz randomly joined the bandwagon and acquired a Normal monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 the centerpiece of the format's currently most deadly and most underrated deck: vanilla beat. most decks, try as they might, cannot keep up with 4k damage from 2 gene-warped werewolf, leading into a tiger king. and vanilla beat has access to heat wave, one of the deadliest spells in the game. i expect them to make an incredible impact in the coming months. too many decks are reliant on effect monsters (e-dragons, fire fist, merlanteans) so once they lose them its easy wins. vanilla beat for tier 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 [quote name="clairedestroyer" post="6173856" timestamp="1364869934"]the centerpiece of the format's currently most deadly and most underrated deck: vanilla beat. most decks, try as they might, cannot keep up with 4k damage from 2 gene-warped werewolf, leading into a tiger king. and vanilla beat has access to heat wave, one of the deadliest spells in the game. i expect them to make an incredible impact in the coming months. too many decks are reliant on effect monsters (e-dragons, fire fist, merlanteans) so once they lose them its easy wins. vanilla beat for tier 1.[/quote] Pffffft Goat Control BEEYOTCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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