Thousand-Eyes Restrict

[Sora1499]

[quote name="幻魔の王" post="6176491" timestamp="1365271735"]That's what I said a few posts ago. Let's continue with that.   So does anybody else feat this thing in Piper decks?     CTRL + Q to Enable/Disable GoPhoto.it [/quote] That's a neat point, since Kinka can bring it back. Idk, maybe that might work, especially in Hope for Piper.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

i was actually talking about making a piper restrict deck for unlimited for laughs. i mean it likely wont do anything to the diamond dude turbos and makyura ftks there but hey.

[玄魔の王]

i was actually talking about making a piper restrict deck for unlimited for laughs. i mean it likely wont do anything to the diamond dude turbos and makyura ftks there but hey.

Eh, It's always worth it for laughs. Slacker Magician and whatnot certainly help it out.

[Sunshine Jesse]

I already stated my opinion on this card a while back.

 

I was being semi-facetious but nobody really tried to refute any of my points, except like one person (who didn't even really refute them, imo.)

[Sunshine Jesse]

Okay, Hatcher, I'll repost my arguments then. Geez.

 

ORIGINAL CONTEXT: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/296830-now-this-im-curious-about-thousand-eyes-restrict/page-2#entry6137371

 

DIRECT QUOTE FOR THE LAZY:

 

Yeah but with Instant Fusion it'd only be a 1000 LP cost 1/1 destruction that effectively skips your battle phase unless you use it for an Xyz/Synchro Summon. I don't really think that's bad whatsoever, to be perfectly honest, whether it's splashable or not. Sure you could combine it with Scrap Dragon (and a few other cards,) but those combos are sufficiently situational and not particularly game breaking to the point that they should be -encouraged- rather than explicitly put a stop to. Synchros aren't that popular anymore in general and level 1 Xyz monsters are mostly bad, so this would just give those decks a minor boost if anything.

 

My only issues with this card come from its interactions with various other support, i.e. Limit Reverse, in that it allows a more permanent access to the effect I have an issue with: The stalling one. Limit Reverse is arguably a problem card in of itself, though. (note: I no longer hold this opinion from when this post was made) Especially given you could just change TER's battle position when you don't want it to remove your Battle Phase anymore.

 

Even Kinka Byo with it isn't that bad, because the last part of its effect makes it only last until the End Phase as well, and even banishes it, so you can only use it for the aforementioned 1/1 removal. Sure, it's effectively costless, but it isn't recurring and more easily stopped given its nature of both requiring and taking up your Normal Summon.

 

The only good ways to use this card effectively turn it into 1/1 removal that either costs 1000 LP and usually skips your Battle Phase, skips your Normal Summon, or involve other cards that are arguably problems in-of themselves.

 

I think that people just argue it's broken because it's already banned, and try to find bad/loose reasons to keep it banned that other cards do just as bad or worse, or involve other equally degenerate, if not more-so, cards (y'know, like people did with Tsukiyomi, and we all see how that destroyed the format.) And power creep has given many decks ways to deal with this "threat" rather easily. Sure, the ability to counter a card doesn't make it balanced, but given this is a stall card rather than an "I win" button like BLS or DAD, there's no huge urgency to get rid of it. You don't need an "on-the-spot" card like Veiler to save your ass because this card isn't an immediate threat to your aforementioned ass.

 

This would be a good card if unbanned. It wouldn't be much else. And cards shouldn't be gotten rid of just because they're good.

 

 

discuss pls. I don't really like this card but I might as well make some arguments for it being unbanned.

 

EDIT: Aaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnd I thought double posting merged your last post for longer than it does, apparently!