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No one's dickriding anyone except you.

 

Frankly, I'm impressed. I didn't think it was possible for someone to fuck themselves so hard.

 

Metamorphosis turns any Level 8 into a 2800 ATK double attacker, any Level 7 into an over-9000 Royal Oppression, and any Level 10 into an unrestricted Shi-En.

 

Explain to me how Grapha, Judgment Dragon, the E-Dragons, Mermails, Trag, or REDMD deserve to be given that just because you want to make a card with a broken effect playable?

Exactly. In the current gamestate, this has become more broken, not less. Dropping a high level monster is easier than ever.

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No one's dickriding anyone except you.

 

Frankly, I'm impressed. I didn't think it was possible for someone to fuck themselves so hard.

 

Metamorphosis turns any Level 8 into a 2800 ATK double attacker, any Level 7 into an over-9000 Royal Oppression, and any Level 10 into an unrestricted Shi-En.

 

Explain to me how Grapha, Judgment Dragon, the E-Dragons, Mermails, Trag, REDMD, etc. deserve to be given that just because you want to make a card with a broken effect playable?

 

a] {the bad reason} Limiting Morph wouldn't make an iota of a difference in this environment. First turn LADD is a more universal nuisance for a lot decks than what Exterio is, and is infinitely more consistent. Wouldn't change the meta, and would actually give a slight boost more towards the decks that aren't tier 1.

 

b] {a better reason} You could argue that Exterio should be banned because it literally does nothing to the game except make an otherwise acceptable card problematic. As a similar example, take Mass Driver, the card itself is unplayable trash but banning it allows other things to exist which deserve to be playable. Last Warrior is not a royal oppression on crack either, for obvious reasons.

 

c] {another reason} The decks that may be able to "abuse" it currently are probably in need of a hit anyway. You've mentioned, JD, E-Dragons and Mermails, all of which are already badly designed and could be hit to compensate. Lightsworn wouldn't bother with it either, and neither would DW.

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a. That is definitely the bad reason, mainly because it's wrong. I can put this in LS, Dark Worlds, and other decks with Level 8 bosses, and they will easily otk with a 2800 double attacker. I can give up a Trag that's not doing anything or a REDMD in Chaos Dragons with a LPD on the field for an Exterio to stop the opponent from doing anything. I can take any of the Level 7 monsters, including a Gorz token, and make them into a card that stops my opponent from playing monsters. If you don't think this wouldn't change the meta, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

 

b. Sure, you could argue that Exterio should be banned. But it's not a problem without Metamorphosis, whereas Metamorphosis is STILL a problem without Exterio. Last Warrior may not be a Royal Oppression because it's a monster, but that doesn't change the fact that it's on crack. Metamorphosis doesn't deserve to be playable. All it does is enable unfair OTK's and lockdowns. Mass Driver is the same. It doesn't do anything except for promote OTKs.

 

c. Waitwaitwait. You don't think Dark Worlds would use this? Dark Worlds would get a kick out of turning Grapha into a 2800 double attacker before simply reviving Grapha again. LS would definitely drop a JD for Cyber Twin after wiping the field to go for game. More importantly now, all the cards that make Metamorphosis allow for such things to happen in each of those broken decks, aren't always the ones that need to be hit. You're not going to hit every Level 7 monster in Mermails. They're not the problem cards. Which would mean that your plan is to hit several other cards that have no issues just so you can bring back a problem card.

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Pretty sure the same could be said about exterio, cyber twin, and last warrior,imo

Yes, but without Metamorphosis none of these cards are all that bad because they require work. That was pretty muh the point of the Blaze Fenix thread; find which card in this arrangement is the one enabling the broken plays. Exterio is improbable to summon, as is Last Warrior. Cyber Twin is easier, but still specific in what it requires. Last Warrior here doesn't see all that much play without Meta, and there's a reason for that

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Shock Master's technically a -2 yet people still use it.


Did you really just compare an Xyz Monster to a specific material Fusion monster? Technically Fusions should've used the same concept as Xyz Monsters but that's beside the point.

Yes, I want a Miracle Fusion that's basically treated as Polymerization. Then its searchable by King of the Swamp, Fusion Recovery and whatnot. But its just unfortunate that we can't have that due to Heroes being around. I would love to see cards such as this, Cyber Blader and the Cyber Dragons see play.
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[quote name="Azuh" post="6177000" timestamp="1365337321"] Did you really just compare an Xyz Monster to a specific material Fusion monster? Technically Fusions should've used the same concept as Xyz Monsters but that's beside the point. Yes, I want a Miracle Fusion that's basically treated as Polymerization. Then its searchable by King of the Swamp, Fusion Recovery and whatnot. But its just unfortunate that we can't have that due to Heroes being around. I would love to see cards such as this, Cyber Blader and the Cyber Dragons see play.[/quote] Really, it's just Shining that's the major problem.

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