Premier Alexander Romanov Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 LIGHT/Warrior/Xyz/Rank 8/2800 ATK/1800 DEF 2 Level 8 monsters Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material, then target 1 face-up monster on the field; that target's effects are negated and is unaffected by other card effects during this turn. This is awesome! Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekko1990 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Actually thought this was going to have some synergy with Felgrand in some way. Boy was I wrong. Quite an insteresting effect to play around with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted June 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 It's a walking Forbidden Quick-Play. It makes something do nothing, but nothing can do anything to that something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Finally a good rank 8. OH MY GOD THAT ART. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 This actually is really really solid and it redeems Felgrand's name. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I quite like it. Not only is the effect awesome, you can Rank it Up into Ultimatrainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow_Flare Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Damn I want this card for my real-life Photon Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 That art is awesome, the guy is practically wearing Felgrand Dragon duel armour and suddenly he became good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 A pretty good card. Like, just generally does a lot of good stuff for itself. It can beat Draco, as said, it can easily Rank-Up, and it's LIGHT as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Grapha Spam gets a lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Finally Kaito.dek is playable with this....What? Why are you all staring at me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I'm sick of Xyz that negate monster effects, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Konami.... Did you just not only make a good Rank 8, but also make one of off Felgrand Dragon? I'm in love with this set already. Just this card, is soooo amazing. The art, the flavour (Because I love Felgrand), and that lovely effect. Not to mention, amazing attribute, and makes Gigantrainer much better. (RUM might become valid in Rank 8 decks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I'm sick of Xyz that negate monster effects, though. "I'm sick of a control mechanic controlling things" Seriously, these aren't synchros. The point of Xyz is control against the beatsticky "build up from weak" mindset that Synchros were designed with. Asking Xyz to stop having negation effects is asking them to change one of the core designs of the Xyz Mechanic. Hell, these soft negation effects are good for the game, as they promote the interaction between players and having to play around them. You can't just explode and beat your way through, you have to play smart and around the cards, more often than not. It's sure as hell a better form of implementing a Control Mechanic than Dracossack, Big Eye, Lavalval Chain, etc. For this particular card, the fact that this doubles as protection if you don't want t negate the opponent is also beneficial to the game as it encourages you to gauge what you're doing and when. Also, it's a walking Tenken/Veiler, so it's kinda amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Honestly what I think about this card: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cm6CQL8_vU[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 "I'm sick of a control mechanic controlling things" Seriously, these aren't synchros. The point of Xyz is control against the beatsticky "build up from weak" mindset that Synchros were designed with. Asking Xyz to stop having negation effects is asking them to change one of the core designs of the Xyz Mechanic. Their effects are all so similar... Streak Bouncer, Focus Force, Paladios, Gorgon, Rock Palm, Magician Shining, Glorious Halo, Judge Buster, Genome Heriter, Abyssgaios, Simon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Their effects are all so similar... Streak Bouncer, Focus Force, Paladios, Gorgon, Rock Palm, Magician Shining, Glorious Halo, Judge Buster, Genome Heriter, Abyssgaios, Simon... Aaaand? Would you rather have, say, more Atums and Zenmaities? More menial attack boosts like Leviathan and Brilli-Ant? Cards that can control the very tide of your game like Lavalval Chain or Ptolemy? More destruction effects that have even MORE complaints than negation, like Volcasaurus? How about Xyz akin to Big Eye or Dracossack? Cards like Tiaramisu? I can understand complaints about Dolkka, Laggia, or Shock Master, but the prevalence of soft negation just supports a healthier game environment where you actually have to consider your moves rather than just gogogo. They on't inherently take advantage away, but they can depending on how it goes. I'd rather have the plethora of negation effects that don't inherently gain advantage than many of the cards listed above. Similarity =/= Bad. Just like with writing, Originality is NOT greater than execution, and the negation isn't executed badly. While many are similar, they all serve seperate niches... Except for Glorious Halo, he just sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I'd still like to see some sort of new and cool effect, one can only guess they are saving them for the 50+ unknown Numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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