Most Underrated Archetype?

[Βyakuya]

Heraldic: With the correct setup of cards, infinitely Xyz summoning monsters would be a breeze.

 

Morphtronic: Playing against Leo in video games has often been difficult seeing that they can spam low level Machines via a splashable One for One, Machine Dupe, Junk Box, and more. Well made and played decks can spam Synchros and/or become large powerhouses.

 

Chronomaly: It's been the easiest deck for me to summon Rank 5/6s, with a touch of Dark Gaia and BLS to top it off. There's the optional mess-around with Machu Mech OTK, but it's been fun to play as III and I was surprised at how people move on from this when there's a plethora of things that can be done with this.

[Blake]

Chronomaly's a shittier Constellar. It's not underrated as that's all it is.

 

Morphtronic's aren't underrated. They're pretty bad and everyone knows what they do. They're mediocre and inconsistent at best.

 

Heraldics are a little underrated, and I missed that, because they're a decent anti-meta deck. As such, they'll never be tier, but they're not absolutely awful.

 

Battlin' Boxers are well known as decent undermeta. This is in no way news, and no one underrates them.

 

As I said, Madolches are damn overrated.

 

Heroic Challengers are fucking dreadful. All they can do is randy OTK and have a worse Batteryman AAA-type card.

 

X-Sabers are overrated because people still think they're an actually good deck when they're well past their prime.

 

Worms aren't overrated, see Battlin' Boxers,but maybe a little weaker.

 

Rock Stun's not underrated. See BB again.

 

Crystal Beasts are a silly ass casual deck. They're not underrated, people know exactly what they are; A silly deck that has a good field spell and a broken OTK card, with a couple good cards but an overall shit theme that's in no way up to snuff.

 

Traptrix is, like, a single card used in multiple decks. There's no "Traptrix" engine, it's just the searcher as one.

 

ZWs are absolutely fucking shit with no coherency. You either run shitty Utopia.dek with Summ Monk, Star Drawing, and the like, which would almost be better as Assault Stardust like that, or you tech them in places that can make it less inconsistent to use them. ZWs, as a deck or engine, are still total shit.

 

Hazy Flames are shit because almost anything they can do is done better by Fire Fist or Fire Kings. Or both.

 

I also missed Evols, it seems. They are a bit underrated, and they were overhadowed before. They have silly interactions and plays that people don't seem to get are there.

 

MechaPhantomBeasts are comparable to Madolche. They open dead a lot, but guess what Madolche do? And they're more potent and consistent than MADolche in the long run, and generally can do stun just as well, too.

 

This thread's full of overrating bad decks, if anything.

 

YCM underrates the Reptile engine a lot, like really.

[DarkWithin9867]

I think Heroic Challengers, done right, could actually be a pretty cool casual superstar. Maybe breaking Top 1200 if we're lucky.

In all seriousness, they're not too bad, just not run.

Woot! Represent!

Been maining Heroics for a long time now.

[heraldry_lord]

Chronomaly's a shittier Constellar. It's not underrated as that's all it is.

 

Morphtronic's aren't underrated. They're pretty bad and everyone knows what they do. They're mid tier 3 at best.

 

Heraldics are a little underrated, and I missed that, because they're a decent anti-meta deck. As such, they'll never be tier, but they're not absolutely awful.

 

Battlin' Boxers are well known as decent undermeta. This is in no way news, and no one underrates them.

 

As I said, Madolches are damn overrated.

 

Heroic Challengers are fucking dreadful. All they can do is randy OTK and have a worse Batteryman AAA-type card.

 

X-Sabers are overrated because people still think they're an actually good deck when they're well pat their prime.

 

Worms aren't overrated, see Battlin' Boxers,but maybe a little weaker.

 

Rock Stun's not underrated. See BB again.

 

Crystal Beasts are a silly ass casual deck. They're not underrated, people know exactly what they are; A silly deck that has a good field spell and a broken OTK card, with a couple good cards but an overall shit theme that's in no way up to snuff.

 

Traptrix is, like, a single card used in multiple decks. There's no "Traptrix" engine, it's just the searcher as one.

 

ZWs are absolutely fucking shit with no coherency. You either run shitty Utopia.dek with Summ Monk, Star Drawing, and the like, which would almost be better as Assault Stardust like that, or you tech them in places that can make it less inconsistent to use them. ZWs, as a deck or engine, are still total shit.

 

Hazy Flames are shit because almost anything they can do is done better by Fire Fist or Fire Kings. Or both.

 

I also missed Evols, it seems. They are a bit underrated, and they were overhadowed before. They have silly interactions and plays that people don't seem to get are there.

 

MechaPhantomBeasts are comparable to Madolche. They open dead a lot, but guess what Madolche do? And they're more potent and consistent than MADolche in the long run, and generally can do stun just as well, too.

 

This thread's full of overrating bad decks, if anything.

 

YCM underrates the Reptile engine a lot, like really.

 

You sound upset.  Anyway, what do you think of Watts?  I don't want to say they're underrated, lest you blast me for it.

[Blake]

You sound upset.  Anyway, what do you think of Watts?  I don't want to say they're underrated, lest you blast me for it.

I'm not upset at all. I just think YCM doesn't have a clue what underrated means.

 

I never insulted anyone directly for what they said, only explained the choices were bad, so not sure how I'd "blast" you.

 

They're a decent deck in the undermeta that people tend to overrate, whether it be jokingly or not, to take to YCSs and such.

[DarkWithin9867]

The fact that you think by tiers and assume that this tier system can't be ignored and/or proven completely wrong invalidates your argument. I firmly stand by the belief that the best deck is not the most expensive, popular one; it is the most skillfully played one.

[The Hounds Of Anubis]

The overusage of the word "tier" in Black's post is seriously ticking me off.

[Blake]

The fact that you think by tiers and assume that this tier system can't be ignored and/or proven completely wrong invalidates your argument. I firmly stand by the belief that the best deck is not the most expensive, popular one; it is the most skillfully played one.

That doesn't make you right.

 

Decks that are tier are the decks with the most potential and force to them. Good Player Bad Deck does happen, but it's not do-all-end-all.

 

Thought I edited the tier mentions out of my post when Chris made a point to me, but oh well, will fix later.

 

 

The overusage of the word "tier" in Black's post is seriously ticking me off.

 

 

Yeah, I checked. I left 1 mention of tier on the Morphtronic part. What's your point =x

[The Hounds Of Anubis]

 
Yeah, I checked. I left 1 mention of tier on the Morphtronic part. What's your point =x

My point is I never went back to read your post after I said that earlier so didn't know you'd edited it. My bad.

The fact that you think by tiers and assume that this tier system can't be ignored and/or proven completely wrong invalidates your argument. I firmly stand by the belief that the best deck is not the most expensive, popular one; it is the most skillfully played one.

Tiers can't be proven completely wrong at all. It doesn't invalidate his argument either. It just makes it weak since tiers are relatively subjective and are very far from clear on their definitions.

The best way to evaluate decks is to judge them on their position in the metagame. This can vary from being the metagame, being undermeta to being anti-meta or fringe, or just totally unplayable.

Skill doesn't affect how good a deck is at all. If anything, a deck requiring more skill is likely to be more underepresented in a larger field but with a strong correlation to the top performers, since more skillful players tend to want to gravitate towards a deck that rewards them for outplaying their opponents. However, a skill intensive deck must still be good to actually win. Fringe shit doesn't win just because it requires skill, and a lot of pilots of those types of decks just use "more skillful" as a poor excuse to not use good decks, even when they themselves aren't actually good. It's better to just admit that you don't like playing meta decks and you willingly choose to use weaker decks for whatever your reason is, be it prefering the playstyle, the challenge that comes with piloting a weaker deck, or just because you find it more fun.

[Aerion Brightflame]

It's probably not an under-rated deck, but I will mention Gadgets.

 

Consitent, with great siding potential, and a solid deck base overall. They've got a lot of good around them. Not sure if that equates to them being under rated, but it's the only thing not said that I can think of.

 

Aside from some kind of Monarch varients.

[Maeriberii Haan]

You can't just win a YCS with a rogue, dandy deck and expect it to be meta, since that depends on what other people play too. On topic, I define underrated decks as decks that can actually do more things than people expected it to do and they do it well, not limited in a competitive level, but also in a casual lower levels. take for example CB. I doubt it will top any YCS/regional soon, but for a deck that constantly dissed for being terrible and have no win condition other than abundance, the deck is surprisingly explosive and can pull some amazing comebacks with beacon/promise. Well, inconsistencies do exist, but since its rated as trash while its actually above that level, it's definitely underrated. Also, Reptile engine is amazing if you can spam rank 4s and if your deck don't have to rely on a material-exlusive xyz.

[The Hounds Of Anubis]

CBs are trash because of those inconsistencies.

Because it's one of the least consistent decks out there.

[Daigusto Sphreez]

Wind-Ups are so underrated now, since magician is at 1 and their star xyz is banned. But they are still very good. They can get rank 3's, 4's and 5's out in a heartbeat if built right. And despite people thinking magician and shark is the only good combo, rat and rabbit also combo brilliantly but yeah no one sees that... 

 

Also, they work great with saber invoker and factory is at 3. 

[Delibirb]

Dustons are fairly underrated in that they dont see much play. Though I suppose with good reason given they arent complete yet, but as of right now they have a pretty solid OTK, if not super annoying spammage forcing the opponent to scoop. :)

 

I personally adore them, and still get exited when my opponent pops my House Duston before my Goblin King. >:D

[Dr. Cakey]

The fact that you think by tiers and assume that this tier system can't be ignored and/or proven completely wrong invalidates your argument. I firmly stand by the belief that the best deck is not the most expensive, popular one; it is the most skillfully played one.

Think of it this way. A guy with no weapon can beat a guy with a sword, that's true.

 

I'd still like to be the guy with the fucking sword.

[Mehmani]

Reptiliannes. They aren't underrated, barely even fungible, in fact, but they sure are fun to screw around with every now and then.