Blake Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 4 Level 5 monsters When this card is Special Summoned: You can target 1 Spell/Trap Card on the field; destroy that target. If this card has "Number 104: Masquerade" as an Xyz material, it gains this effect. ● Once per turn, during either player's turn, when a monster effect is activated on your opponent's side of the field: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; negate the activation, then you can send 1 random card from your opponent's hand to the Graveyard, and if you do, halve your opponent's Life Points. Personally, still think this is the best CNo. C101 is very awkward feeling to go into unless you have/have used 101, and you rarely feel safe enough to go for a 4K beater unless you need to/are gonna push for game. This is good most times, due to MST effect being live a good amount of the time, and 3K is still no joke at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 It's one of the best, I agree, mostly because of the 3000 body MST on Summon (if using Limited Barian's, which won't miss the timing). Summoning this using No.104 is usually too much effort, although it can lock down the opponent pretty nicely if they NEED a monster effect to fight back or if there's a mandatory effect, but otherwise, they're usually not dumb enough to activate one while this is out. C101 is nice, but again, you need to have used 101 at some point to make it less risky, and C69 seems like overkill in uncertain situations. Also, this card is hilarious with Call of the Haunted, since it MSTs on any form of Special Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Believe it or not, this thing is the first CNo to get nerfed on release. The anime form wasn't OPT, and didn't chain to a monster eff. You just detached, pitched one of their cards, and halved their life. As many times as you could. As-is, a 3k MST is pretty good, though I personally prefer C69 and C101. That sad, I've had no real issues with any of these three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Those 3 notably function the best without specifically requiring their previous forms. That plays a part in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I always get a kick out of the fact this card's effect is multi-layered:Gonna' use an effect? K. Negate.Your effect is negated? K. Discard something.You discarded something? K. Halve your Lifepoints.Thank you, and have a nice day.That aside, though... It still has all the support that Spellcasters have in the event you want to mix it up and revive this thing a few more times along the way. In addition to that, it's also cool how the built-in Typhoon gives you more encouragement to make it, since your also getting something for playing it right off the bat.In general, it's a very solid Chaos Number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 The only reason you'd actually rank up 104 for this is after having used its mats on Gorz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Those 3 notably function the best without specifically requiring their previous forms. That plays a part in it. They do. C105 is entirely contingent on battle, C106 isn't very strong and is forced to trigger, C39-V doesn't do anything without Utopia, C-39 Victory is okay in what he does, C92 is ohgodwhy.jpg, C65 is unbelievably meh, C96 is cool but can't be made with LVF, and the rest are unreleased.Those 3 notably function the best without specifically requiring their previous forms. That plays a part in it. They do. C105 is entirely contingent on battle, C106 isn't very strong and is forced to trigger, C39-V doesn't do anything without Utopia, C-39 Victory is okay in what he does, C92 is ohgodwhy.jpg, C65 is unbelievably meh, C96 is cool but can't be made with LVF, and the rest are unreleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Dear God a 4-Mat monster lockdown. I feel like I just stepped into RC in it's lowest point ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Dear God a 4-Mat monster lockdown. I feel like I just stepped into RC in it's lowest point ever.It's not exactly a monster lock. It only negates effects that are on the field. So you can still Battle Fader/Veiler/Giant Rat/Dandylion/etc/etc.Its only if you try to Junk Synchro/etc will it bite you in the ass....And nobody said you had to play this through actual Level 5 Materials, since that's what Rank Up Magic cards are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Uhh, who the actual hell would use this for Rank 5 Mats? I'm well aware RUM exists. I'm not stupid. I know I have moments, but I'm not THAT dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 It was the best Limited RUM target before C69 and C101, it remains one of the best afterwards. I mean like at worst it's a 3k MST, which is never exactly a bad thing. At best it's crazy. Though you'd never exactly want to RUM into it with the normal form, because the normal form is one of the best 3 Mat's around. I still love how the initial buzz about how crazy it was faded out. It remains one of the major examples of overhype that I can remember in recent ish history. Which is always fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 It's not exactly a monster lock. It only negates effects that are on the field. So you can still Battle Fader/Veiler/Giant Rat/Dandylion/etc/etc. Its only if you try to Junk Synchro/etc will it bite you in the ass. ...And nobody said you had to play this through actual Level 5 Materials, since that's what Rank Up Magic cards are for. Not to mention that using the Level 5s will keep you from using the negate effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Hopefully they continue the trend of giving Chaos Numbers useful effects that don't need their specific Materials. It's what works best, and I think they realized that when they made C69's nuke effect generic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 And today I learned how good it feels to resolve OG Masquerade 3 times then turn him into this guy and resolve him when the opp tries to make a comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Hopefully they continue the trend of giving Chaos Numbers useful effects that don't need their specific Materials-Actually, they've always been doing that. Umbral Masquerade isn't the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Actually, they've always been doing that. Umbral Masquerade isn't the first one. I said "useful" effects, that is, effects that are actually worth Ranking Up for (at least in my opinion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I said "useful" effects, that is, effects that are actually worth Ranking Up for (at least in my opinion). Victory's was good enough. Given that a 2800 body with an Ancient Gear clause is decent if not good depending on what you RUM into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 ...And nobody said you had to play this through actual Level 5 Materials, since that's what Rank Up Magic cards are for. it could very well still have four materials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 I said "useful" effects, that is, effects that are actually worth Ranking Up for (at least in my opinion). Most of the Number C monsters' effects are useful and are worth ranking up. Sometimes, the base numbers are just too much effort for the player to make, since most require 3 materials or are just meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Most of the Number C monsters' effects are useful and are worth ranking up. Sometimes, the base numbers are just too much effort for the player to make, since most require 3 materials or are just meh.He said useful effects that don't need their specific material :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 He said useful effects that don't need their specific material :/ C39-Victory fits that definition, yet it isn't run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 C39-Victory has an Ancient Gear clause on a 2800 body. While useful, it's not worth using Rank-Up Magic for without Utopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 C39-Victory fits that definition, yet it isn't run. It isn't run now. To my knowledge before the new RUM stuff, it was one of the best 3 Limited RUM targets, and was worth running in any deck that splashed Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 It's a very nice CNumber that's worthy to try to play when I use Umbral Horrors. MST, Veiler, DDTG, and Athlanthal all in one for a card that requires effort to summon and is woth staying for some turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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