VictorSempra Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 So, my friend loves the Gradius stuff, and he has a deck built around Boss Rush. Honestly, the monsters don't work all that well with this card, but let's discuss it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 the monsters don't work-That's the point.By the time the token-boss rush scenario appears, you are at the point in the game where you can take them all out with a single attack. This card is a reflection of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 That's the point. By the time the token-boss rush scenario appears, you are at the point in the game where you can take them all out with a single attack. This card is a reflection of that. I wouldn't have any idea, never touched a Gradius game. Well then teh curious question is: What's the point in using this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I wouldn't have any idea, never touched a Gradius game. Well then teh curious question is: What's the point in using this?Boss rushes aren't exclusive to Gradius games.Megaman games, for example, also have them.And if you were curious, yes, this card stacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Boss rushes aren't exclusive to Gradius games. Megaman games, for example, also have them. And if you were curious, yes, this card stacks. Never played a Megaman game, or at least not far enough to have a boss rush scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Never played a Megaman game, or at least not far enough to have a boss rush scenario. Have you even played any single game with a form of a boss rush? If not, then your childhood sucked hard. OT: Too slow. I wish there were better B.E.S. monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Have you even played any single game with a form of a boss rush? If not, then your childhood sucked hard. >SAaying my childhood sucked for not liking a certain style of game Just get out, you biased s**t. That's a COD player mentality that I hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 >SAaying my childhood sucked for not liking a certain style of game Just get out, you biased s**t. That's a COD player mentality that I hate. Sloooooow down there, it's a generalized expression. Because Boss Rush is such a common thing he found it weird. Don't spring arguments out of nonsense Maxy. Stacking this is mean but the implication of it running out of ammo really soon is very discouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Sloooooow down there, it's a generalized expression. Because Boss Rush is such a common thing he found it weird. Don't spring arguments out of nonsense Maxy. Stacking this is mean but the implication of it running out of ammo really soon is very discouraging. And that's kinda my problem with it. As much as I want to find good use to this and help my friend make something better with it, it strips away their powers and just thrashes your deckpool. THough you could get lucky and potentially get some Xyz plays off it. Also, one does not simply attack my childhood because I played a different style of game. I had my RPG's, they made me happy. That shouldn't qualify my childhood as "sucking hard" Besides, as a kid I spent 90% of my time outside with friends, my game-playing was minimal at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 That's the point. By the time the token-boss rush scenario appears, you are at the point in the game where you can take them all out with a single attack. This card is a reflection of that. I actually never realized that was a deliberate parallel. It worked as both a balancing factor when BES came out, and as an in-joke. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Also, one does not simply attack my childhood because I played a different style of game. I had my RPG's, they made me happy. That shouldn't qualify my childhood as "sucking hard". You're taking it literally. It was just a snide remark, really. Don't take it at face value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 You're taking it literally. It was just a snide remark, really. Don't take it at face value. As I've always done with comments, not sure why people can't grasp that about me. If something is said, there's a very good chance I will take it at face value. That's why I get into arguments all the time on here. It's not like this is new behavior for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 As I've always done with comments, not sure why people can't grasp that about me. If something is said, there's a very good chance I will take it at face value. That's why I get into arguments all the time on here. It's not like this is new behavior for me. Do you have any idea how difficult it would be to memorize everyone's specific quirks or reactions to specific situations, much less have EVERYONE memorize them for everyone? I enjoy analyzing my own reactions, but I'd be at a loss to do the same for everyone else unless they specifically told me they have that type of reaction or quirk, and consistently apply it, and if I actually interact with that person enough to recognize it when it surfaces. This is much harder to do in RL (and especially internet forums) than for fictional characters and the like. People take things at face value all the time, and may actually be inconsistent as to whether they recognize sarcasm or casual snideness for what it is, or whether they take it at face value. This is why moderating topics can be an incredible pain, because someone can get offended over something that didn't have the intent to offend, and if everything got punished for being even mildly offensive if taken a certain way...oh boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 As I've always done with comments, not sure why people can't grasp that about me. If something is said, there's a very good chance I will take it at face value. That's why I get into arguments all the time on here. It's not like this is new behavior for me. And after what evilfusion said, there's still something left to say: Expecting everyone else to behave differently is a bit selfish as opposed to making an effort yourself. Barring pathology, but I don't think your problem stems from that, does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Also, one does not simply attack my childhood because I played a different style of game. I had my RPG's, they made me happy. That shouldn't qualify my childhood as "sucking hard" Besides, as a kid I spent 90% of my time outside with friends, my game-playing was minimal at best.I just want to say that boss rush isn't a game style, but a game mode. If you played any super smash bros game, you've exprienced boss rush. The elite 4 in pokemon is a boss rush. Hell sonic adventure 2 battle has a boss rush mode. Just wanted to get that out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I just want to say that boss rush isn't a game style, but a game mode. If you played any super smash bros game, you've exprienced boss rush. The elite 4 in pokemon is a boss rush. Hell sonic adventure 2 battle has a boss rush mode. Just wanted to get that out there Never played Sonic stuff, never did much with Smash Bros outside of playing with friends, not a big Pokemon fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Never played Sonic stuff, never did much with Smash Bros outside of playing with friends, not a big Pokemon fan. are....are you doing this on purpose? here. If you want to use Boss Rush, just keep this strategy in mind "I am the Boss Rush" Then it all makes sense. ...or you could just use Cyber Dragons and Limiter Removal. Really the decks don't need this card, it's just fun to use sometimes. If you're planning on winning Regionals with a Boss Rush deck, it's going to be very difficult, but if you do happen to win, it's like Boss Rushception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 are....are you doing this on purpose? here. If you want to use Boss Rush, just keep this strategy in mind "I am the Boss Rush" Then it all makes sense. ...or you could just use Cyber Dragons and Limiter Removal. Really the decks don't need this card, it's just fun to use sometimes. If you're planning on winning Regionals with a Boss Rush deck, it's going to be very difficult, but if you do happen to win, it's like Boss Rushception. Why is it such a crime that I enjoyed RPG's more than anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Why is it such a crime that I enjoyed RPG's more than anything else? Lots of RPGs have boss rushes too. o. O For all the flavor this archetype has, though, I can't help but laugh at the fact that the guy who played these in the anime was defeated by a Mole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 'Ell, even a number of RPGs had boss rushes, if I remember right. At least, some of the Final Fantasies had something similar to it. Anyway: I've always loves the B.E.S. archetype, and I feel that this card has some potential if we get a reliable way to recycle B.E.S. monsters, and some more of them. Big Core MK-II is very good with this, and other than that, I usually use Crystal Core and Protected Core with this. The only real problem is getting one out in the first pkace, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorSempra Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 'Ell, even a number of RPGs had boss rushes, if I remember right. At least, some of the Final Fantasies had something similar to it. Anyway: I've always loves the B.E.S. archetype, and I feel that this card has some potential if we get a reliable way to recycle B.E.S. monsters, and some more of them. Big Core MK-II is very good with this, and other than that, I usually use Crystal Core and Protected Core with this. The only real problem is getting one out in the first pkace, honestly. Agreed, if there was maybe another COntinuous card to help cycle them back around it would work better, but they really do want to be Normal Summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Agreed, if there was maybe another COntinuous card to help cycle them back around it would work better, but they really do want to be Normal Summoned.Boss rushes start and end. It's not an endurance test.That aside, though, the fact you can't Normal Summon is because you can't really have any breaks in a boss rush, it's just one after another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Unfortunately, the inability to Normal Summon also prevents you from Tributing your SSed BES for one that'll have counters. So you also can't upgrade your bosses mid-rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Anyone recall Big Core MK-2? It's like that thing was designed to have staying power if you bring it out with Boss Rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 That's true, but it's the only one that does, and it's almost worthless without using Boss Rush. So it both aids and conflicts with the theme. All of the other BES monsters want to be Normal Summoned, so they get cool counters to do cool stuff with or survive battle. Boss Rush makes them one-strike wonders, but continues SSing them from the Deck. MK-II does the opposite. Being Normal Summoned makes it a one-strike wonder, but using Boss Rush makes it awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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