Will Of The Overlord

[caezx]

Isn`t that cool?

[AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW]

So, you basically nuke whatever your opponent tries to do just by having a Level 8 monster out on the field. It's a quick-play too, so you can't even argue that they can just Xyz so they won't be affected by this as much - you can just activate it right before they Xyz Summon. You can also play it on your turn to wipe your opponent's field before you start pulling off big scary plays with your other cards, and potentially OTKing. You can say that getting a Level 8 onto the field isn't easy, but that is a horrible excuse for something as powerful and easy-to-play as this. Were you just goofing around or did you actually think that a quick-play field nuke for such an easy accomplishment was remotely balanced?

 

It needs to be toned down in effect. Don't think "I have a high-Level monster on the field, so I should get to do crazy stuff with this!" Hell, you made Proof of Powerlessness obsolete with this, as crazily powerful as it is.

[Kitsuneko]

I actually think this card is relatively balanced, except for the fact that it's a Quick Play. Make it a Normal Spell Card and I think it would be something that can fit well into the meta.

 

This card is in no way, shape, or form easy to play, and will often end up being a dead draw unless you have a strategy to set it up, and even then this will make pulling off that Level 8 more difficult, as you'll essentially have 5 resources instead of 6 to do it at the beginning of the duel (assuming this card was part of your opening hand). In addition, it makes a horrible top deck, and it only hits face-ups (including your own). If you argue that this card is overpowered, why don't we bring in Dark Hole? No requirement, instant nuke.

[AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW]

I actually think this card is relatively balanced, except for the fact that it's a Quick Play. Make it a Normal Spell Card and I think it would be something that can fit well into the meta.

 

This card is in no way, shape, or form easy to play, and will often end up being a dead draw unless you have a strategy to set it up, and even then this will make pulling off that Level 8 more difficult, as you'll essentially have 5 resources instead of 6 to do it at the beginning of the duel (assuming this card was part of your opening hand). In addition, it makes a horrible top deck. If you argue that this card is overpowered, why don't we bring in Dark Hole? No requirement, instant nuke.

Have you seen Grapha? How easy it is to make Level 8 Synchros? Maiden with Eyes of Blue? Hell, you can even play this off of Dr. Red, the Plant-Type Princesses (that can easily be SSed by Lonefire), and even Deep Space Cruiser 9.

 

Also, Dark Hole is powerful, but it kills all of your monsters (if you're derping and play this when you have monsters), can only be activated during your turn, and is already Limited. The last bit is not something to ignore. Just because Dark Hole is still in the game doesn't mean that a Dark Hole quick-play that conveniently dodges your boss should exist.

[Kitsuneko]

I did mention in my opening paragraph that the card needs to be turned into a Normal Spell Card to be balanced, didn't I...?

[AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW]

And you're still advocating what is basically an unlimited Dark Hole for Level 8+s. Even if it was a Normal Spell, it still blows up pretty much everything your opponent has on the monster card zone, with the only exceptions being an Xyz that was already there and facedown monsters. Do you really feel like certain Decks should be allowed to have four or five Dark Holes at their disposal? Especially when those certain Decks can pump them out more easily than you think?

[Kitsuneko]

You seem to be forgetting that YGO is a game about resource usage; shoving 3 of these in a deck leaves you with 3 more cards in your deck that rely on a card combo to pull off rather than cards that help you pull off a combo, and don't help you at all in setting up your own plays. The chance of opening with 1 or more of these rises, and the more of these you draw without the proper resources to actually make a play, the less resources you'll actually have to do anything. Imagine having 1 of these in an opening hand; sure you would still have 5 cards to pop out your level 8 to play this thing, but what if something goes wrong in the process? Bottomless, Solemn, Compulsory, sometimes even Phoenix Wing Wind Blast just to name a few. What happens then? You'll have lost 2-3 resources at that point, along with this card being dead in your hand, leaving you with 2-3 resources to fall back on, as opposed to 3-4 which actually makes a humongous difference in this metagame. Having this card in your deck makes pulling off combos more difficult, but rewards them better. If you look at it in this way, it's actually quite a balanced card once you remove the Quick Play icon. With Quick Play however, I'd have to agree with you that this card is too strong.

 

It's a high risk, high reward kind of card (once the Quick Play icon is removed).

[AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW]

The risk isn't that high, when you have Level 8+ monsters that can hit the field without consuming too many resources. I've already mentioned Grapha, REDMD, and Deep Space Cruiser 9, but you also have things like Mythic Wood/Water Dragon, Metal Reflect Slime, Exodius the Forbidden Lord, Night Express Knight, and Barbaros. There are plenty of good Level 8+ monsters that exist in the game (out of the ones mentioned above, Metal Reflect and Exodius are the only ones that aren't that good, if I remember right) that you can toss onto the field without losing advantage. Mythic Water Dragon Summons itself by having an EARTH monster on the field (and dodges BTH). Barbaros and Night Express Knight can be Normal Summoned without Tribute. Grapha Summons itself from the Graveyard by giving you back a Beiige, Broww, or Snow, or whatever from the field to your hand, and thus can hit the field more than enough times to become a quick nuisance.

 

If you think that all Level 8+ monsters will need a lot of effort to bring out, then you're horribly incorrect. And the argument that it is easy to counter doesn't actually work. Look at Raigeki, you can stop it with Magic Jammer, Magic Drain, and Dark Bribe, among other things. Does this mean it can come back? No.

[Kitsuneko]

Maybe I'll bring the Lightning Vortex argument in here then

 

 

It's even easier to play than the card we're reviewing, and doesn't nuke any of your own monsters. Like the card we're reviewing, only face-ups are targetted. Does this make Lightning Vortex overpowered? No, actually Lightning Vortex is a highly underplayed card in today's meta, and is unlimited without any problems.

 

The card we're reviewing (once the Quick Play is rid of) is nothing more than an alternate Lightning Vortex.

[AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW]

Lightning Vortex has a discard cost, which can be a real pain to deal with at times when every card you have at the moment is precious. You can play it in a losing situation, but with that extra card gone, you're in a weaker position to make an actual comeback, and can easily be trampled next turn. With this card, you can just revive your Grapha, Normal Summon a Barbaros, or even SS Exodius without using your Normal Summon, then play this to blast away at your opponent. Lightning Vortex is a -2+number-of-monsters-killed. This is a -1+number-of-monsters killed.

 

And if it helps, Vortex was used as a sidedeck card late last format, a format where even Dark Hole wasn't a very optimal choice. It isn't necessarily a bad card, just a little too expensive sometimes. This not having a discard cost is nice for the losing situation, but when you're winning, it's a 1-card-blow-up-your-opponent's-defenses card. Vortex's cost could compromise the entire OTK you could pull off.

[Dreko]

lightning I mean at least put cartoonish lightning on your card like on lightning vortex. no its not cool or strong.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

Given how quickly high Levels are summoned nowadays, all player needs to do is summon said monster(s); play card and nuke basically your opponent's whole monster field (and to an extent, your own if you didn't already Xyz Summon). Monsters include REDMD, Deep Space Cruiser 9, most of the non-Extra Deck Gimmick Puppets, Galaxy-Eyes Photon, Stardust, RDA, Crimson Blader, the list goes on; also includes monsters who are affected by Level-altering cards such as Galaxy Queen Light, Tannhauser Gate, etc.

 

(1-Star already noted this earlier, but I'm rephrasing it)

 

You need to tone down the effect a lot, or add a sufficient cost to counterbalance what you got here. Because essentially, you clear the field and said monsters are free to direct attack your opponent.

[Zextra]

lightning I mean at least put cartoonish lightning on your card like on lightning vortex. no its not cool or strong.

You've spammed on many threads already; please do not continue, or you will be dealt with accordingly.

[Iamthedong]

This card is to broken 2/10

[caezx]

Changed Will so monster cannot attack,also got rid of the quickplay

[caezx]

BUMP
 

[caezx]

BUMP.BUMP.BUMP

[caezx]

BUMP.

[Ludisir]

I don't think that the last post was necessary to bump and is likely to get you in trouble me thinks. But I want to be constructive so here are my thoughts.

Many people seem to have forgotten that there is a card that does almost the exact same thing as this card called "Proof of Powerlessness", only difference is it's a trap and it stops all your monsters from attacking. There are some other cards that empower having a lvl 7+ monster are "Overwhelm" which has very limited use because who tribute summons nowadays, "Destruction of lineage" which isn't very good because it only allows for a second attack, and there's "Champion's Vigilance" which works with only normal monsters like Blue eyes but can negate virtually anything except the effect of a monster.

And I think this card is very balanced granted how little all those other cards I mentioned are rarely used at all despite having some strong effects themselves.

[Zextra]

Caezx, please refrain from doing that again. Bumping alone is fine - bumping in a rude, obnoxious manner is not.