Wildflame Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Your opponent sends 1 card from their hand to the Graveyard; your opponent takes control of all face-up Xyz Monsters you currently control. I believe that there was no topic for this one. Acid Golem combos without Bahamut? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 >Acid Golem That would be outright cruel, if that was the only Xyz you controlled.... Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Now why is there no Trap version of Mystical Refpanel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Now why is there no Trap version of Mystical Refpanel? It would be of low relevance because almost no Traps in common use target a player. Reckless Greed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 It would be of low relevance because almost no Traps in common use target a player. Reckless Greed? Not a literal one, but a "steal the effect of this Trap Card". So that in this case, you could activate this so the opponent discards, chain the other, and take control of their Xyz Monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 This card is so ridiculously plot-devicey that I hate it. Aside from the aforementioned Acid Golem, which Vector doesn't have, there is absolutely no situation I can think of where this type of play is remotely useful. See, the problem I sometimes have with plot device cards is that more often than not, there is never a reason to even consider a card like this in your Deck. I'm just trying to imagine Vector or another character looking through small piles of cards on a table, and thinking "Oh! This card could help my strategy!". I get some cards are conditional, but effective if used right (half of Yuma's Deck), but this card is so ridiculously counterproductive to any player's Deck goal that it's just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 its searchable tho, with that generation card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 This card is so ridiculously plot-devicey that I hate it. Aside from the aforementioned Acid Golem, which Vector doesn't have, there is absolutely no situation I can think of where this type of play is remotely useful. See, the problem I sometimes have with plot device cards is that more often than not, there is never a reason to even consider a card like this in your Deck. I'm just trying to imagine Vector or another character looking through small piles of cards on a table, and thinking "Oh! This card could help my strategy!". I get some cards are conditional, but effective if used right (half of Yuma's Deck), but this card is so ridiculously counterproductive to any player's Deck goal that it's just stupid. Its just like Vector to use this. Its called being an asshole. Get their hopes up, only to crush them into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I swear there was a RUM that used both sides of the field in the anime. Same guy? Do this, summon more Xyz, then RUM-Plot. IDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 This card is so ridiculously plot-devicey that I hate it. Aside from the aforementioned Acid Golem, which Vector doesn't have, there is absolutely no situation I can think of where this type of play is remotely useful. Look on the bright side, it's not Eternal Bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 This card is so ridiculously plot-devicey that I hate it. Aside from the aforementioned Acid Golem, which Vector doesn't have, there is absolutely no situation I can think of where this type of play is remotely useful. See, the problem I sometimes have with plot device cards is that more often than not, there is never a reason to even consider a card like this in your Deck. I'm just trying to imagine Vector or another character looking through small piles of cards on a table, and thinking "Oh! This card could help my strategy!". I get some cards are conditional, but effective if used right (half of Yuma's Deck), but this card is so ridiculously counterproductive to any player's Deck goal that it's just stupid. I'm pretty sure the rule of anime is that characters build their deck in the middle of the duel, so to speak. Like, Vector miraculously having a card to play off his sudden rememberings to make it look like he was repenting, when he wouldn't be using that strategy otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I swear there was a RUM that used both sides of the field in the anime. Same guy? Do this, summon more Xyz, then RUM-Plot. IDK Closest thing was Chaos Field, which stole a Number from the opponent's Extra Deck, then Ranked-Up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 You guys missed my post apparantly. I stated that its just like Vector to do something like this. Showing repentence in order to portray a false image in order to deceive. He did this tactic with Yuma, using his human form "Rei Shingetsu" to befriend him, only to reveal his true intentions later to cause distrust between Yuma and Astral. He even went so far as trolling Yumas duel with Girag by pretending to not know how to play, and giving him Rank-Up Magic Limited Barian's Force. Although this tactic didn't show repentence, its still the same concept He used this to attempt to throw Nasch off-guard. And are we forgetting he had a facedown that could only activate if he was attacked directly? It destroys all monsters on Nasch's field and inflicts 300 damage for each. Fits pretty well into his plan if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Vector is definitely the evil god of ridiculous asspull cards, no contests here. I assume you can't even activate this if you have no Xyz monsters, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 You guys missed my post apparantly. I stated that its just like Vector to do something like this. Showing repentence in order to portray a false image in order to deceive. He did this tactic with Yuma, using his human form "Rei Shingetsu" to befriend him, only to reveal his true intentions later to cause distrust between Yuma and Astral. He even went so far as trolling Yumas duel with Girag by pretending to not know how to play, and giving him Rank-Up Magic Limited Barian's Force. Although this tactic didn't show repentence, its still the same concept He used this to attempt to throw Nasch off-guard. And are we forgetting he had a facedown that could only activate if he was attacked directly? It destroys all monsters on Nasch's field and inflicts 300 damage for each. Fits pretty well into his plan if you ask me.There are some key differences, though. The card in quedtion doesn't fit Vector's style at all. The other trap he had is just a good card and makes sense to run. This is just ridculous, though. Now, when he was aliasing as Rei, Yuma didn't know he was really Vector. In ths case, Vector's identity is not hidden at all and the only reason he could pull off that repentance act was because his memories came back. Without that happening, Vector would have nothing that would make it look like he was repenting. It's incredibly situational and impossible for the characters to have predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Closest thing was Chaos Field, which stole a Number from the opponent's Extra Deck, then Ranked-Up. Admire Des Thousand can do it, bu it can also use mons in the grave or that you control, so this is still retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Well, it can give your opponent a random Number so you can use C6's effect. ...Not that there aren't better ways to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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