Cat O' Nine Tails Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 Ok, I would Like people to tell me if this card could be a good card to have in a deck, And if the effect would work like it should createcard (1).jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 "Ghost" is not a Type. May I suggest Fiend, Beast, or Zombie? When this card is Summoned: You can be imediatly send this card to the Graveyard; to Special Summon 1 Level 7 or higher monster from your hand, ignoring all the Summoning conditions. When the special Summoned monster is destroyed: Special Summon this card from the Graveyard in face-up Defense Position face up on the field. I will assume you SS from the hand. It's the only reasonable assumption. So what I'm seeing is that this card is a pseudo-Boss Rush for anything LV7 or higher but cheats every form of Nomi restriction. And when that monster is destroyed, this card revives itself, thereby causing another opportunity for you to do it again. BLS EotB? You got it. SKYFIRE? Not a problem! Zielgigas? Gladly! Water Dragon or Gate Guardian? Hell yeah. Did I mention you can instawin with Horakhty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat O' Nine Tails Posted June 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 Well, The goal for me is to Try to make a good card, but not one that is too insanely powerfull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 The fact that you can cheat out Nomis without end - actually, just any Nomi at least once - is already incredibly potent. I'd preferably scrap the "ignoring the Summoning conditions" bit to strongly clamp down on what it can cough out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat O' Nine Tails Posted June 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 So would this Slightly Be better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 Based on what you've PM'd me, no. You've only included (most of) my card lore corrections but didn't change the effect to something more balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisoned Simochi Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 CRAZY op. A card that summons super boss cards, then when they die out it returns to the field to just summon another boss card and all of this without concerning any summon restrictions? crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Since it takes a Tribute and the correct monster in hand to make it work anyways it's not an instawin machine. Zombies can't search it with Pyramid Turtle because of its DEF, and it doesn't have an infinite loop because it Summons from the hand and not the Graveyard. I don't see any functional problems. The OCG and stuff is berfy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisoned Simochi Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 You have idea how broken this is. Just take a few minutes and wikia the op monsters this thing can summon, then imagine that didnt work out, so you can have as many opportunities of this already op effect in a single turn for as many high level cards as you have in your hand? BROKEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur the Divine Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 How 'bout this: Changed last sentence to When the Summoned monster is destroyed: You can Special Summon this card from your Graveyard, but its effects are negated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 You have idea how broken this is. Just take a few minutes and wikia the op monsters this thing can summon, then imagine that didnt work out, so you can have as many opportunities of this already op effect in a single turn for as many high level cards as you have in your hand? BROKEN Let's say you have a hand of this card, Cyber Dragon, and 3 Ancient Gear Golem. Your opponent brings out a monster and sets some cards. You Special Summon the Cyber Dragon, Tribute it for this monster, and use this monster's effect to bring out 1 Golem. Your opponent activates Bottomless Trap Hole and the Golem dies. This comes back to the field, and you use its effect to bring out a second Golem. Ancient Gear Golem attacks over their monster for lots of damage and you end your turn. On your opponent's turn, he Xyz Summons ARK and eats your Golem. You now have no field and no way to Summon the third Golem, and you have few cards to contest him with because you spent so many resources bringing out a big monster from your hand. This one of the happier scenarios. It's possible you'll have nothing to Tribute to bring the mammoth out, or nothing to Summon with the mammoth, or draw your Ancient Gear Golem with no mammoth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 My suggestion is: Scratch the "ignoring the Summoning conditions" part completely in addition to Gadgitron's grammar corrections. Also, you could instead of "Special Summon" make it an extra Normal Summon within the same turn, and give it a multi-Attribute effect (like Doriado's), that way you get to help Mega Monarchs a ton. The fact it comes back but can only reappear as often as you have hand is pretty cool. Now if the monsters Summoned by this card's effect actually come from the Deck and not the hand, then it would need something else along the lines of: When Summoned, except by it's own effect: To prevent it from being a perpetual generic Boss Rush (with heavy Fairy decks could very well use, among potentially other more relevant cards). I would not like to see Treeborn Frog become this and turn into a Krystia from the deck, only to go back to the deck and make this come back to the field (that is, unless there's timing issues there, which I hope there are). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Now if the monsters Summoned by this card's effect actually come from the Deck and not the hand it would be a fundamentally different card. also I think my example should have used something stronger than Ancient Gear Golem. What's a searchable game-winning 7+ monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 it would be a fundamentally different card. also I think my example should have used something stronger than Ancient Gear Golem. What's a searchable game-winning 7+ monster? Indeed it would be, that's why it needed to be mentioned in that comment. Though I wasn't the first one to mention it, and it's most likely not the case anyways, but thought it needed the mension at least. There isn't really anything too game-breaking here, and even the potential boss monsters that look incredibly powerful would most likely result in somewhat inconsistent builds. It also needs to be mentioned that "ignoring the Summoning conditions" is not REALLY "ignoring the Summoning conditions" in Yugioh, and so this actually has unwritten given restrictions from that over-complicated ruling in the game that is most likely not the intention of the maker so I'll pretend it doesn't exist for this case: That said, Vennominaga is the best affordable shot. There's also Horakthy, the Wiked gods, Rainbow Dragon (splash a small CB like Pegasus just for the sake of giving it the effect), you can bump Magnet Warriors and use this to bring out Valkyrion from the deck for a cool-looking swarm (just cool, not implying anything else). Neos Wiseman, and there's not much else that's actually better. It still feels wrong to be able to "ignore the Summoning conditions" though. At the very least it creates the need to keep an eye on it for any nomi that'd otherwise would have no means around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat O' Nine Tails Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Thank you all for your feedback, I am taking it into account even though I haven't changed it on my card, I am just very lazy and haven't gotten around to doing it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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