Underage Drinking

[Night]

Honestly speaking, for every under-aged person who should not be drinking, there's someone who's over 21 who's just as unsuitable. 

[Tentacruel]

Honestly speaking, for every under-aged person who should not be drinking, there's someone who's over 21 who's just as unsuitable. 

 

Night always has something thoughtful to say.

 

The issue is that you really can't go around telling people that they're unsuitable to drink, unfortunately.

 

 I think an age limit is still okay for medical reasons.  As I said, wine with the family?  Sure.  But heavy drinking is terrible when you're young. 

 

I think another big factor is that a lot of people start drinking young and wouldn't if they had waited until they were older to consider it. 

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Honestly speaking, for every under-aged person who should not be drinking, there's someone who's over 21 who's just as unsuitable. 

This deserved to be quoted twice. Totally right.

Some people can handle drinking. Others can't. Of any age.

Still really dislike the idea of drinking, personally. But that's just a personal thing. I won't stop someone from drinking (Though if I like them I'm certainly going to try and be around to limit the damage.)

[Makο]

I'm just in the "Naw" party for alcohol in general. You hear way too much horrible stuff that comes out of drinking for me to even really want to consider it.

 

So, drinking sometimes? Sure. Underaged drinking? No. Irresponsible drinking? Also no.

[Rapidfire]

"I've done it" Your experience doesn't equal most. Not nearly as many as you think drink to forgot. And "for the hell of it" is pretty much at the same level as "it's cool".

Most probably do it just because, and because other people around are doing it so "why they hell not".

The issue is that even with people around, stuff can happen. Especially if they drink too. And you can't stay safe always when drunk. I've struggled to keep drunken family from hurting themselves and others, so I know that it's not so simple as "Have people around and stay safe". I'm not saying all people shouldn't drink. But there is no denying it can be dangerous.

And it doesn't give that much of a positive effect. Sure you may feel great for a while, but you can do that with out drinking and it doesn't last. Forget? Well drinking has been known to make people remember negative things, and even if you do forget it's only temporary.

 

I'll just out and say it. I hate drinking. If people do it, fine, but I hate it. I think it's very stupid and very pointless. It has messed up a few people I know and it pissed me off when I see people taking it lightly.

 

Please do not tell me how I perceive my words.

Lookie here buddy, I honestly do not care if people think I'm "cool" or not. "Why the hell not" also depends on who I'm with and what the situation is. Maybe I'm sitting in my room reading a book when all of a sudden a thought pops into my head "hey i kinda want a beer." BUT OH WAIT that couldn't possibly be a scenario because I'd have to look cool in front of someone, well at least by your theory. 

 

Before I get into issue number two I'd like to just say that I'm sorry for any bad experiences you've had because the people in your family had rough waters with alcohol.

"Staying safe" it's impossible, NO MATTER WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 

 

I refuse to bring my own personal experiences with life into this because I don't enjoy pity feasts, but I will have to get personal about this to a certain extent. Pay attention, because I'll only say this once, I choose to take things "lightly" because if I took things seriously I'd be afraid to run. Now how literally you choose to take that is your choice, ether way I fully mean every word of that sentence. See I try to experience all sides of my life, even the bad ones that include substances like alcohol. 

 

What pissed me off the most tho, was the fact that you were so bitter and certain about your opinion that you felt the need to justify it with personal shitty experiences. So not only does your point sound legit but it also makes sense on an emotional level. Well if that's the case I could just tell every smoker to stop smoking because my grandfather died from respiratory failure. And oh wait it gets better no matter how much of an ass hole I am, it's justified because I have personal experience right? 

 

No, that's not okay. I don't think it's okay for people to clearly shove their opinions into other peoples faces and then sugar coat it with "If people do it, fine, but I hate it." Do you see how ignorant and stupid you sound? Honestly, take a second to realize that using personal bias too make people feel bad about their decisions is a shitty thing to do. 

 

Next time voice your opinion right. Don't try to change my words or my ideas, and don't try to make me feel bad trough personal experiences just so your point sounds right. 

 

 

Honestly speaking, for every under-aged person who should not be drinking, there's someone who's over 21 who's just as unsuitable. 

 

Exactly. It's all a personal choice though, and it all depends on how well you can manage alcohol.  

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Please do not tell me how I perceive my words.

Lookie here buddy, I honestly do not care if people think I'm "cool" or not. "Why the hell not" also depends on who I'm with and what the situation is. Maybe I'm sitting in my room reading a book when all of a sudden a thought pops into my head "hey i kinda want a beer." BUT OH WAIT that couldn't possibly be a scenario because I'd have to look cool in front of someone, well at least by your theory. 

 

Before I get into issue number two I'd like to just say that I'm sorry for any bad experiences you've had because the people in your family had rough waters with alcohol.

"Staying safe" it's impossible, NO MATTER WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 

 

I refuse to bring my own personal experiences with life into this because I don't enjoy pity feasts, but I will have to get personal about this to a certain extent. Pay attention, because I'll only say this once, I choose to take things "lightly" because if I took things seriously I'd be afraid to run. Now how literally you choose to take that is your choice, ether way I fully mean every word of that sentence. See I try to experience all sides of my life, even the bad ones that include substances like alcohol. 

 

What pissed me off the most tho, was the fact that you were so bitter and certain about your opinion that you felt the need to justify it with personal shitty experiences. So not only does your point sound legit but it also makes sense on an emotional level. Well if that's the case I could just tell every smoker to stop smoking because my grandfather died from respiratory failure. And oh wait it gets better no matter how much of an ass hole I am, it's justified because I have personal experience right? 

 

No, that's not okay. I don't think it's okay for people to clearly shove their opinions into other peoples faces and then sugar coat it with "If people do it, fine, but I hate it." Do you see how ignorant and stupid you sound? Honestly, take a second to realize that using personal bias too make people feel bad about their decisions is a shitty thing to do. 

 

Next time voice your opinion right. Don't try to change my words or my ideas, and don't try to make me feel bad trough personal experiences just so your point sounds right. 

 

Jeez, calm down, that was unnecessary. I said your experience isn't the same as everyone's. I never said you did it to be cool. I said that I think the "to be cool" reason is just as bad a reason as the "for the hell of it." I never said it was the same reason, just on the same level. So chill, you're putting words in my mouth.

 

And fine, whatever you want to do with your life. I still am allowed to think doing it is stupid. And if you ever tell me I can't express that, fuck off.

 

Oh wow, please that is a crap argument. I simply explained reasons why I dislike it. And if I can't base my opinion off personal experience, what do you want me to base it off of?

 

Whatever, you're so ridiculously angry at something so simple. You're purposefully misunderstanding my words and making yourself look like a child. I'm using personal reasons to explain how I feel, I don't give a fuck if anyone thinks I'm right or wrong, so fuck off. Goddamn you come off as such an ignorant asshole here.

 

I never told anyone to stop drinking, quite the opposite. I don't care if you drink, hell I don't care about you in any way except right now as an annoyance. But if I'm going to give my opinion, yeah I'm going to actually GIVE my opinion and my reasons for it.

And yes. THIS time I'm talking towards you specifically.

[Excalibur the Divine]

I think beer is nasty. I've never tasted it but the smell makes me want to puke. Wine...I don't know If I'll like or not. Im under 21 so I cant try anyway
Lordcwcow and rapidfire STOP ARGUING

[DARKPLANT RISING]

I actually thought of doing it once, but later found out in an alcoholic test that I can't drink much alcohol (even after fully maturing) and I'm all like fuuuuuuuuuuu

And THEREFORE all underage drinkers should die and rot in the flames of hell.

[Rapidfire]

Jeez, calm down, that was unnecessary. I said your experience isn't the same as everyone's. I never said you did it to be cool. I said that I think the "to be cool" reason is just as bad a reason as the "for the hell of it." I never said it was the same reason, just on the same level. So chill, you're putting words in my mouth.

 

And fine, whatever you want to do with your life. I still am allowed to think doing it is stupid. And if you ever tell me I can't express that, f*** off.

 

Oh wow, please that is a crap argument. I simply explained reasons why I dislike it. And if I can't base my opinion off personal experience, what do you want me to base it off of?

 

Whatever, you're so ridiculously angry at something so simple. You're purposefully misunderstanding my words and making yourself look like a child. I'm using personal reasons to explain how I feel, I don't give a f*** if anyone thinks I'm right or wrong, so f*** off. Goddamn you come off as such an ignorant a****** here.

 

I never told anyone to stop drinking, quite the opposite. I don't care if you drink, hell I don't care about you in any way except right now as an annoyance. But if I'm going to give my opinion, yeah I'm going to actually GIVE my opinion and my reasons for it.

And yes. THIS time I'm talking towards you specifically.

 

No, see I really don't care about weather you think it's right or wrong. I just got pissed of at how you worded your argument, and if that makes me ignorant then so are you. 

[Thar]

I don't think it's a big deal. As long as you're either not planning on driving anywhere or have a designated driver, then underaged drinking shouldn't be a threat to anyone. My parents let me drink when I was 17, but only at the house when they were around. One bottle of beer isn't enough to cause any real damage, but stuff like heavy liquor, even when mixed with other drinks, is when you should wait until you're old enough to have that much common sense to moderate your intake. The biggest issue with alcohol is stress, which minors tend to have a lot of, but the real difference between minors and legal drinkers in that manner is that legal drinkers are subject to the law and not the way their parents raised them, so consequence is much more humiliating and common sense is a much more needed trait.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

AN ARGUMENT IS RAGING ON GET YO POPCORNS

[Thar]

AN ARGUMENT IS RAGING ON GET YO POPCORNS

 

*cue movie theater scene where everyone is yelling*

 

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ON YOUR POPCORN SIR

 

ALSO, WOULD YOU LIKE A DRINK OR A SNACK WITH THAT, SIR

[DARKPLANT RISING]

I would like vodka with my popcorn, actually

[Thar]

I would like vodka with my popcorn, actually

 

What kind of Vodka?

 

We have Absolut, Pinnacle, Skyy, Smirnoff, and Grey Goose.

[hypebeast]

"I've done it" Your experience doesn't equal most. Not nearly as many as you think drink to forgot. And "for the hell of it" is pretty much at the same level as "it's cool".

Most probably do it just because, and because other people around are doing it so "why they hell not".

The issue is that even with people around, stuff can happen. Especially if they drink too. And you can't stay safe always when drunk. I've struggled to keep drunken family from hurting themselves and others, so I know that it's not so simple as "Have people around and stay safe". I'm not saying all people shouldn't drink. But there is no denying it can be dangerous.

And it doesn't give that much of a positive effect. Sure you may feel great for a while, but you can do that with out drinking and it doesn't last. Forget? Well drinking has been known to make people remember negative things, and even if you do forget it's only temporary.

 

I'll just out and say it. I hate drinking. If people do it, fine, but I hate it. I think it's very stupid and very pointless. It has messed up a few people I know and it pissed me off when I see people taking it lightly.

 

mfw

[Smear]

I'm 17, I drink whenever I go to parties. It's a good time, and hearing stories when I woke up about how I was crawling on the ground pretending to be a lawnmower in nothing in my boxers is always fun. If people don't want to drink, that's cool, if people want to drink, that's cool too.

I just find it fun and it lets me be more open and try to get in with more chix talk to people.

Legal drinking age in Aus is 18 btw.

[%phil]

I'm 17, I drink whenever I go to parties. It's a good time, and hearing stories when I woke up about how I was crawling on the ground pretending to be a lawnmower in nothing in my boxers is always fun. If people don't want to drink, that's cool, if people want to drink, that's cool too.

I just find it fun and it lets me be more open and try to get in with more chix talk to people.

Legal drinking age in england is 18 btw.

 

my case is hilariously similar to this. if i'm with a few friends or at a party and there are drinks to be had i'll drink because it just makes everything a bit more fun.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

No, see I really don't care about weather you think it's right or wrong. I just got pissed of at how you worded your argument, and if that makes me ignorant then so are you. 

Then don't bother replying to me about my opinion if you don't care about it. And sooo sorry that you couldn't understand my wording. Maybe think a little more before making such a huge rant. Not sure how you not understanding makes me ignorant but whatever. And because I feel like being a dick. It's "whether" we're not talking about rain here. ;)

Love how your argument here boils down to "La la la la I'm not listening." And "No, you." Classy.

 

The response to this made me laugh, especially you Hype, that is glorious. XD

 

But anyway, on topic time. I wonder about something. Let's say the legal drinking age was, and had always been, 25. Would people in the U.S. still be saying "Lower it to 18"? Is the 18 just because that's the legal adult age, or is it because it's only 3 years away from 21?

[Thar]

Because you can legally smoke and f*ck at age 18, so might as well make that the legal drinking age. dat logic

[Kyng]

I'm pretty ambivalent about it. If you want to guzzle, guzzle. Not my life you're playing around with.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

The war is still raging on, the popcorns are selling high

And on the topic of vodka I would like Vodka from Detective Conan

Because you can legally f*ck at age 18

oops

[Simping For Hina]

I'm 17, I drink whenever I go to parties. It's a good time, and hearing stories when I woke up about how I was crawling on the ground pretending to be a lawnmower in nothing in my boxers is always fun. If people don't want to drink, that's cool, if people want to drink, that's cool too.

I just find it fun and it lets me be more open and try to get in with more chix talk to people.

Legal drinking age in Aus is 18 btw.

We're the same age. I say that, if I have you consent, we should drink together....just to see where it goes.

[Zauls]

I'm 17 and have never drank and never plan to. Even though the legal age in the UK is technically 18 its really hard to find a 16/17yo who doesn't drink at least at parties or whatever. I just stay away from parties and most social things anyway so nobody puts pressure on me to drink, but sometimes I feel that if I were ever to become "social" then drinking and going to parties would be practically compulsory at my age.

Honestly though, I'm not gonna bash people who drink responsibly even if they're underage. As long as they don't behave antisocially as a result of drinking a bit, then no harm done really.

[Blake]

Anyways, I never drank as a kid and I don't plan to ever, bar champagne at New Years/my wedding, if even then. Just no desire to drink.

[Thar]

I wouldn't call it a desire, but it does help with my insomnia. A little whiskey in a glass of orange juice gives me just the right amount of buzz to keep my eyes shut.