Beerus Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Target 1 face-up monster on your side of the field; banish that target until your next Standby Phase. When that monster is returned to the field you can pay 500 Life Points; Special Summon 1 monster with the same Level from your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur the Divine Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Target 1 face-up monster on the field; banish that target until your next Standby Phase. When that monster is returned to the field you can pay 500 Life Points; Special Summon 1 monster with the same Level/Rank from your hand or Graveyard. Sort of like another card...(don't ask me to find it) with an added effect. It's pretty useful though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerus Posted July 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Sort of like another card...(don't ask me to find it) with an added effect. It's pretty useful though OK. Thanks on comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Sort of like another card...(don't ask me to find it) with an added effect. It's pretty useful though So, we all had that discussion over trying to have better quality posts in RC, yet things like this, the very thing we're trying to minimize, still crops up. Being a Dimensionhole with an extra effect tacked on and a raised Spell Speed makes it strictly better than Dimensionhole in all aspects. Not that anyone really used the original to begin with. The extra effect and Spell Speed bumps up this card's usefulness in getting whatever key card you need to dodge removal and potentially open up an Xyz Summon later. Yes, it cannot handle Xyz Monsters, but under most circumstances, few would want to strip an Xyz Monster of all its Materials to prevent losing it permanently. Oh, wait, there's more! It can pull your opponent's monsters into the void as well, clearing the path for you to attack directly if that's the only monster you need to surmount. Your opponent will also need to conduct their next turn without it. And on your next Standby Phase you - not your opponent - also get a Special Summon on top when the monster returns. Would strongly recommend you restrict this card's targets to your own monsters - denying the opponent a monster for a turn and then getting a plus afterwards is not a fun thing to be subject to. Rtyui, get your act together. I hope you're capable of more than just OCG edits followed by minimally informative one-liners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerus Posted July 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 So, we all had that discussion over trying to have better quality posts in RC, yet things like this, the very thing we're trying to minimize, still crops up. Being a Dimensionhole with an extra effect tacked on and a raised Spell Speed makes it strictly better than Dimensionhole in all aspects. Not that anyone really used the original to begin with. The extra effect and Spell Speed bumps up this card's usefulness in getting whatever key card you need to dodge removal and potentially open up an Xyz Summon later. Yes, it cannot handle Xyz Monsters, but under most circumstances, few would want to strip an Xyz Monster of all its Materials to prevent losing it permanently. Oh, wait, there's more! It can pull your opponent's monsters into the void as well, clearing the path for you to attack directly if that's the only monster you need to surmount. Your opponent will also need to conduct their next turn without it. And on your next Standby Phase you - not your opponent - also get a Special Summon on top when the monster returns. Would strongly recommend you restrict this card's targets to your own monsters - denying the opponent a monster for a turn and then getting a plus afterwards is not a fun thing to be subject to. Rtyui, get your act together. I hope you're capable of more than just OCG edits followed by minimally informative one-liners. OK I've tried to fix it. Is it better like this? or I need to change somethig else too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur the Divine Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Did you fix the OCG? So, we all had that discussion over trying to have better quality posts in RC, yet things like this, the very thing we're trying to minimize, still crops up. Rtyui, get your act together. I hope you're capable of more than just OCG edits followed by minimally informative one-liners. Well, I was on a phone. what did you except, a 10-page review on a phone? And Minicrat, you forgot my OCG fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerus Posted July 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Did you fix the OCG? Well, I was on a phone. what did you except, a 10-page review on a phone? And Minicrat, you forgot my OCG fix I'll fix it now, sorry I forgot about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Well, I was on a phone. what did you except, a 10-page review on a phone? Oh well that excuses everything. Nope, it doesn't. The RC Improvement Discussion Thread as well as the Guide to the Realistic Cards Section still apply as does the Advanced Clause of the RC section. I forget exactly what the clause says, but I know that you aren't helping the cause of enforcing the clause. (sorry for the small rhyme there) In reality, it is comments like yours that people on here are trying to get rid of, the bland "here's an ocg fix cause i'm better than you and one line about how your card is good so I don't look like a complete ass". It's degrading of everyone else who frequent RC and makes us all seem like nitpicking little **********. Now, to address the card, Rtyui's ocg correction makes the card op. And this line is why: "Target 1 face-up monster on the field". Your original tried to say on your side of the field, Rtyui decided, "nah, let's make this op". cause being able to get rid of a monster your opponent controls until your next Standby Phase is op. There is no way to justify that kind of power on this, without some massive restrictions. So, I'm going to give you a quick non op ocg fix. Target 1 face-up monster on your side of the field; banish that target until your next Standby Phase. When that monster is returned to the field you can pay 500 Life Points; Special Summon 1 monster with the same Level/Rank from your hand. (I think you could also just say Target 1 face-up monster you control, but not sure). Right, as gadj mention, this make an awesome Xyz and Synchro support card. It feels very well balanced and it is aesthetically pleasing. This would see a lot of use in Xyz reliant decks because of the quick fodder it provides. Not that that's a bad thing. And I apologize if it seems like I'm hating on Rtyui, I'm not; I promise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Excalibur the Divine Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Oh well that excuses everything. Nope, it doesn't. The RC Improvement Discussion Thread as well as the Guide to the Realistic Cards Section still apply as does the Advanced Clause of the RC section. I forget exactly what the clause says, but I know that you aren't helping the cause of enforcing the clause. (sorry for the small rhyme there) In reality, it is comments like yours that people on here are trying to get rid of, the bland "here's an ocg fix cause i'm better than you and one line about how your card is good so I don't look like a complete ass". It's degrading of everyone else who frequent RC and makes us all seem like nitpicking little **********. Now, to address the card, Rtyui's ocg correction makes the card op. And this line is why: "Target 1 face-up monster on the field". Your original tried to say on your side of the field, Rtyui decided, "nah, let's make this op". cause being able to get rid of a monster your opponent controls until your next Standby Phase is op. AND THIS IS OVBIOUSLY NOT HATING There is no way to justify that kind of power on this, without some massive restrictions. So, I'm going to give you a quick non op ocg fix because I hate Rrrtttyyyuuuiii and I him gone so I'll probe him wrong.Target 1 face-up monster on your side of the field; banish that target until your next Standby Phase. When that monster is returned to the field you can pay 500 Life Points; Special Summon 1 monster with the same Level/Rank from your hand. (I think you could also just say Target 1 face-up monster you control, but not sure). Right, as gadj mention, this make an awesome Xyz and Synchro support card. It feels very well balanced and it is aesthetically pleasing. This would see a lot of use in Xyz reliant decks because of the quick fodder it provides. Not that that's a bad thing. I'm hating on Rtyui, I promiseSeems like you ARE hating on me. This site stresses quality, but if there is no quantity, how are we supposed to get quality? A short OCG fix is better than nothing. That's why I'm not posting much in RC anymore, because of this. This is what makes people not want to come back. *Shuts the door* (Thinks to myself) This site was fine, but now...what's with all the restrictions? It almost seems like this site wants people to leave. *Sigh* Why would there even be an advanced clause for? No point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur the Divine Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Sorry minicrat for spamming your topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Seems like you ARE hating on me. This site stresses quality, but if there is no quantity, how are we supposed to get quality? A short OCG fix is better than nothing. That's why I'm not posting much in RC anymore, because of this. This is what makes people not want to come back. *Shuts the door* (Thinks to myself) This site was fine, but now...what's with all the restrictions? It almost seems like this site wants people to leave. *Sigh* Why would there even be an advanced clause for? No point. Restrictions are to help weed out the people who make posts like "Great Card! 10/10!" or "The pic on this card is awesome!" YCM is not turning into a Prison, it is merely trying to raise the quality of posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Seems like you ARE hating on me. This site stresses quality, but if there is no quantity, how are we supposed to get quality? A short OCG fix is better than nothing. That's why I'm not posting much in RC anymore, because of this. This is what makes people not want to come back. *Shuts the door* (Thinks to myself) This site was fine, but now...what's with all the restrictions? It almost seems like this site wants people to leave. *Sigh* Why would there even be an advanced clause for? No point. If you were a new member, a short response might be excusable out of inexperience on your part. But you've been here long enough to know our expected standards of card reviews, yet you still go about with mere OCG fixes (sometimes even changing the effects without even explaining why!) accompanied with the occasional uninformative one-liner. No, doing this from a phone doesn't excuse it. If your phone posting has the capability to process and edit a short paragraph of card text, you can also use that much character space to point out what's lacking in the card and why. Explaining why you think the card is good, bad, or has a problem really makes a quality post in comparison to empty commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Seems like you ARE hating on me. This site stresses quality, but if there is no quantity, how are we supposed to get quality? A short OCG fix is better than nothing. That's why I'm not posting much in RC anymore, because of this. This is what makes people not want to come back. *Shuts the door* (Thinks to myself) This site was fine, but now...what's with all the restrictions? It almost seems like this site wants people to leave. *Sigh* Why would there even be an advanced clause for? No point. Actually, I'm hating on all the people who do the kind of stuff you did. You're just kind of a.... martyr? I guess would be the closest term I can think of, but the word I'm looking for is less serious and doesn't involve death.... (does a word like that exist?) any way, you talk about the site as though you were here in the time before the advanced clause... I don't think so. Gadj, Sakura or a mod might have been around that long (I totally respect you guys, so please don't take that as an insult), but there's no way a person with only 3 stars has been around that long. And with this line: "This site stresses quality, but if there is no quantity, how are we supposed to get quality?" you seem to be saying quantity = quality.... that's not how it works. by that logic, if you make a hundred bad cards that would be better than someone who made say ten good cards, when really it's the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur the Divine Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Actually I've been here a long time but not before the advanced clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Actually I've been here a long time but not before the advanced clause May 2014 is not a long time. Try 2008 (myself). You have a lot to learn my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur the Divine Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I mean as a guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I love that's what you choose to respond to, not the Quality vs. Quantity thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armoire Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 For the card itself, I think it's really neat for any Xyz Deck, because it offers a one-turn protection for a monster and possibly activate their effects. In some type of anti-meta/macro, this card would work well with Necroface because it would activate its effect and let you summon another Level 4 monster like Myrmeleo (Or something) and then you still have a Normal Summon for the turn and you can Xyz Summon something that requires 2-3 Xyz Materials. Even though, concerning the speed of today's meta, with Satellarknights, Shaddolls, HAT, and all that jazz, I don't think it would be over the top to make this card a Quick-Play Spell Card (unless I'm missing something really big). If it was a Quick-Play, it would be able to offer protection to monsters that would be destroyed by Bottomless Traphole (not the best example) or something. I really like how it's splashable, though, and I'm sure it would be used in a wide variety of decks. I'm hoping that this is the "quality" type of review everyone was talking about, and if not, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Haru you saved the topic for me locking it. Guys please try to keep on topic about the card not the section. Next time you might not be so lucky. And Rrrtttyyyuuuiii you were lucky I didn't warn you for spam. Next time I see you spam in this topic you will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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