玄魔の王 Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 The DT lore itself and a leak that was posted in the rumor mill? The post that mentioned Tierra as an opposite to Sophia has yet to be verified, and at present Tool's flavour text could reference the actual Tierra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 The post that mentioned Tierra as an opposite to Sophia has yet to be verified, and at present Tool's flavour text could reference the actual Tierra. It is a leak like I said, but it was from Maxut, iirc. There's also the fact that Qliphoth are the opposite of the Sephirot, so it would stand to the logic that Tierra is the same to Sophia. It isn't CONFIRMED, but it's highly likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 It is a leak like I said, but it was from Maxut, iirc. There's also the fact that Qliphoth are the opposite of the Sephirot, so it would stand to the logic that Tierra is the same to Sophia. It isn't CONFIRMED, but it's highly likely. I don't know who said it, but I don't think it was Maxut. Ark made it sound like the poster was the same one who mentioned Junktion Ride, which we now know was bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 I don't know who said it, but I don't think it was Maxut. Ark made it sound like the poster was the same one who mentioned Junktion Ride, which we now know was bull. He's the fired Konami employer that said half-true things and half-lies. Also by the way, the one that said Junktion Ride is a fake is him too. Most of his words ended up true or close to it, but some could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Seems like these monsters will be harder to summon than Gishki monsters, but have far more flexibility by being able to discard them for effects. Hope they aren't too expensive when they release, because I'll sure as hell want to build them if they keep going in this direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Noellia was an IB that ran off with the forbidden Gishki mirror. She formed the Gishki. The Gishki, in their malevolence, mugged the gustos for control of the Mist Valley swamplands. This malevolence awoke the Steelswarm. This step. Isn't it the other way around? Noellia and Natalia, looking for sources of power to battle the Fableds, released the Steelswarms, who killed Natalia and corrupted Noellia, and the latter began to antagonize Gustos and Lavals, and later support Evilswarms. Remember that Noellia is first seen helping the Gishki and Gusto children in "After the Storm", so I doubt she was evil from the beginning. The war began anew, and Noellia revived Steelswarm Hercules as a Gishki. However, it was too powerful, and it mind jacked all of the Gishkis, leading to Noellia getting turned into Psychelone. I don't think this is correct. Noellia is apparently turned into Psychelone by the lswam virus as seen in "Creeping Darkness", and I don't know of any card that depicts anything close to Zielgigas corrupting her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 This step. Isn't it the other way around? Noellia and Natalia, looking for sources of power to battle the Fableds, released the Steelswarms, who killed Natalia and corrupted Noellia, and the latter began to antagonize Gustos and Lavals, and later support Evilswarms. Remember that Noellia is first seen helping the Gishki and Gusto children in "After the Storm", so I doubt she was evil from the beginning. I don't think this is correct. Noellia is apparently turned into Psychelone by the lswam virus as seen in "Creeping Darkness", and I don't know of any card that depicts anything close to Zielgigas corrupting her.... Noellia was a random Ice Barrier when the Fabled were around. The Fabled were nearly entirely wiped out by Jurrac Meteor and Trish going berserk finished them off. I just checked the Wiki under Noellia's lore, but that was NEVER stated in official lore, and the DT Storyline says that the Steelswarm were awoken by the malevolence caused by the Gishkis assaulting the Gustos.It appears to be conjecture with absolutely no official backing; Especially the logic about Trials and Tribulations.Yes, Natalia and Noellia are there. Yes, she's getting surrounded by the Steelswarm sign. But this doesn't prove anything in regards to what it is. If that was the Steelswarm possessing her, she wouldn't have been so pure in After the Storm.Then there's the fact that release order of the DTs conflicts with some of the ideas put forward, and DTs have been released overall chronologically.http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Guide_3_card_storylinesFrom Master Guide 3, and nothing else has been officially stated about the Steelswarm coming to be, other than being sealed in the planet.After the Storm was said to be a separate cycle, somewhere, but idk if that held up. This is further implied by the fact that, in Master Guide 4, Roach himself states that he was freed from Sophia's "Cycle of Reincarnation" due to contact with a power not from the DT Planet. Official lore states that the Gishki got mindjacked by Zielgigas because he was too powerful. Her body may have been changed by the Lswarm virus immediately after, but she was definitely already being mindjacked.There was another source of official lore between G3 and MG4 for the DT world, but I'm having trouble finding it, and it stated that Noellia revived Zielgigas to fight off the Lswarm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 I don't think this is correct. Noellia is apparently turned into Psychelone by the lswam virus as seen in "Creeping Darkness", and I don't know of any card that depicts anything close to Zielgigas corrupting her. Zielgigas is the source of Noellia's lswarm virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 That makes sense. I overlooked that in "Trials and Tribulations" Hercules can be seen in the background, so when Hercules was revived as Zielgigas he triggered the lswarm virus within Noellia. Regarding the connection between After the Storm and Trial and Tribulations, I guess the order of the events could be: "After the Storm" --> Conflict between Gishki and Gustos --> Trial and Tribulations: Gishkis, looking for power to overwhelm Gustos, (accidentally?) release Steelswarm ---> etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Brionac's picture is up, if you want to update the OP. http://i.imgur.com/RCZP3Cb.jpg?1 Is it just me, or is Brionac wielding the Monado? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Tierra is the same to Sophia. In the sense they're the same person or both Gods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 In the sense they're the same person or both Gods? In the sense that Tierra is to Sophia as the Qliphoth is to the Sephiroth. Black just said Tierra and Sophia were opposite, just like the Qliphorts are the opposite of Sephiroth, in a fancy shamncy way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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