Azuh Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 obviously... this card was really good last format. But does it still pack the punch? in other words... is it pretty much a staple in todays meta. Discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Sadly it cant help you much in any circumstances but to stall. everything being used is either priority or just straight speed. Non competitively, this card still rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 against monarchs this card owned but with the demise of monarchs it has lost some of its power. However this card targetting jinzo makes it still very playable. I run it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Not so good in this format, but still one of my favourite cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 i never tought of it as a staple, never really needed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tefached Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 i think its slightly over powered with the second effect because you could tribute a kiruboh to take control of like a blue eyes ultimate or something worse. theres no limit there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 i think its slightly over powered with the second effect because you could tribute a kiruboh to take control of like a blue eyes ultimate or something worse. theres no limit there but you must return it at the end, not that so overpowered... in that sense enemy controller < creature swap... i used to run 2 of these on every deck i made, but today is not so good, anyway this card will see a lot of play until the next list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 obviously... this card was really good last format. But does it still pack the punch? in other words... is it pretty much a staple in todays meta. Discuss When was this card EVER a staple? but you must return it at the end God, is there even an ounce of logic in that brain of yours? Or do you honest think that the player would randomly -1 himself, not everyone plays like you man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 i would say this card is a staple in a dd monarchs deck ykno trib a surviror(wich will come back) then trib that for a monarch basically a costless soul exchange :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 obviously... this card was really good last format. But does it still pack the punch? in other words... is it pretty much a staple in todays meta. Discuss This card was a staple!? Not even close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest King of Games Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 This card is good for some situations, like against Berserk gorilla or Unhappy girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 It can save you in a tight spot, my friend always sacs treeborn, and steals one of my monsters for Levai Dragon - Dedauls (w/ a Ledg.Ocean) usually for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 i think its slightly over powered with the second effect because you could tribute a kiruboh to take control of like a blue eyes ultimate or something worse. theres no limit there Kuriboh and BEUD are pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzumakinaruto93 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 i think its slightly over powered with the second effect because you could tribute a kiruboh to take control of like a blue eyes ultimate or something worse. theres no limit there Kuriboh and BEUD are pro. yeah you can't make a good deck without blue-eyes and kuriboh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 It's an good card and if activated at the right time, your opponet could be screwd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 This card is good for some situations' date=' like against Berserk gorilla or Unhappy girl[/quote'] No one plays either of those. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest King of Games Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I use Unhappy with a Spirit Barrier combo, so that statement isn't entirely true.:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I use Unhappy with a Spirit Barrier combo' date=' so that statement isn't entirely true.:P[/quote'] Learn to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 but you must return it at the end God' date=' is there even an ounce of logic in that brain of yours? Or do you honest think that the player would randomly -1 himself, not everyone plays like you man.[/quote'] ok, learn2read... is there an ounce of lecture comprension on yours?? the guy pointed that he can sacrifice kuriboh to get BEUD... when is stupidly 10.000 better to use swap and get the big monster without returning!! ok, since you don't understand without graphic examples, i will fix it: but you must return it at the end unless you sacrifice it and you don't have the monster anymore ok? is that right to your tiny comprension?? i hope so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 ok' date=' learn2read... is there an ounce of lecture comprension on yours?? the guy pointed that he can sacrifice kuriboh to get BEUD... when is stupidly 10.000 better to use swap and get the big monster without returning!![/quote'] Lol. Comparing Creature Swap to Enemy Control. I think the problem is whoever it is used that stupid example used... a terrible example. Think of it more like... monarch vs monarch. You each got a monarch out. Your opponent has 2000-ish life points. You top deck Enemy Controller. Saq your monarch for theirs. Attack for game. Lol @ you. Creature Swamp is more of a -1 then E-Con is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest King of Games Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I use Unhappy with a Spirit Barrier combo' date=' so that statement isn't entirely true.:P[/quote'] Learn to play Hey, i have my ways to play, you have yours.Anyways, to get back on topic, i'd pick enemy control over Creature swap, cuz it can empty opponent's field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I use Unhappy with a Spirit Barrier combo' date=' so that statement isn't entirely true.:P[/quote'] Learn to play Hey, i have my ways to play, you have yours.Anyways, to get back on topic, i'd pick enemy control over Creature swap, cuz it can empty opponent's field.You could do the same with Creature Swap, if you used it correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 ok, learn2read... is there an ounce of lecture comprension on yours?? the guy pointed that he can sacrifice kuriboh to get BEUD... when is stupidly 10.000 better to use swap and get the big monster without returning!! ok, since you don't understand without graphic examples, i will fix it:...ok? is that right to your tiny comprension?? i hope so... What the hell, do you like... encrypt your messages before posting? Speak English goddamnit. Change of Heart sucks because you have to return the monster in the End Phase. Not everybody tributes their field presence only to end turn. They will push for game, tribute it off, Monster Gate it, etc etc. More often than not, their opponent won't be getting the card back. I apologize if this isn't a direct response to your post, but perhaps this is: More often than do you like of Heart monster in the End Phase their field presence posting? Speak it, etc etc. getting the card back. What the Change ... encrypt your because you have to return messages before They will push Not everybody tributes English goddamnit. not, their opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 i see your post... but i only read "bla bla bla, yap yap yap, go to bed, get a cookie" really, you don't understand nothing... because NOBODY tributes their field presence is why enemy controller is more used by its first effect and that's WHY i said enemy controller < creature swap... now? are you happy? now you understand?? habla usted espaniol?? parlez-vouz le francais?? BTW: if change of heart sucks why is it banned?? you said it sucks and my sarcasm detector hasn't beeped... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 i see your post... but i only read "bla bla bla' date=' yap yap yap, go to bed, get a cookie"[/quote'] what is this i dont even really' date=' you don't understand nothing...[/quote'] what is this i dont even because NOBODY tributes their field presence is why enemy controller is more used by its first effect and that's WHY i said enemy controller < creature swap... Enemy Controller's second effect is one-for-one removal when used properly; it's a +0. Enemy Controller's first effect is generally a -1. now? are you happy? now you understand?? habla usted espaniol?? parlez-vouz le francais?? what is this i dont even BTW: if change of heart sucks why is it banned?? Using a Konami banlist as your argument = instant fail. you said it sucks and my sarcasm detector hasn't beeped... Open your ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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