Hexanort Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Lore: Tribute 1 monster from either side of the field; Select and Activate one of the following effects: -Place 1 card from your hand on the top of your Deck. -Take damage equal than half the sent monster's ATK. -Skip your Next Battle Phase. You can only activate 1 "Darkness Hand" per turn. a card that can be a guaranteed removal of a monster because it can tribute from either field as a cost but with a price because its effect are all negatives any feedback welcomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant F.U.R.Y.™ Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I like the idea. The OCG is solid. But there are a couple of things that can abuse this card: Dark Worlds (example, tribute your opponents monster, then discard Grapha and pop another card) Hieratic Dragons (example, tribute Tefnuit and make that deck even faster) may not be the best examples but, it's what came to mind. and the more i think about it...i dont think thats too OP...i'll defer to the opinions of any other commenters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexanort Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 yeah some deck probably can utillize the negative effect too, but i dont think this card would make a big plus should i change the first effect to send? (that would still trigger shaddoll and BA though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peridank Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Tributing is a cost, so tribute the opponents monster then negate the card effect... it seems like it wouldn't be abused to easy tho... Dark Worlds might do it... but... other then tht I see no harm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarch King Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Of course i will play it in my Darkworld deck, good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Discarding should be something different. I mean, aside from DWs, you also have Burning Abyss and any other Archtype/Deck that can mooch off the Graveyard. Oh, and Hieratics won't play this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexanort Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 since discarding apparently can be abused by many deck now i changed the first effect to place 1 card in hand to the top deck instead there is sylvan but i think that's about all who can benefit from it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 It's not a fair card in the least. It's free general monster removal in a qui play whose drawback is a bit of burn. It's why Ring of Destruction was stupidly good. The burn was way too good on top of the removal, but it was, at the core, a free, chainable 1-for-1. This is the same thing, but arguably better as its a quick play and it's versatile. And this is assuming that you fixed the cost that it's guaranteed to remove a card. And has Qliphorts as optimal targets of your own to sack for maximum versatility. Not optimal to do so, but it would surely arise. Unfair design that just offers you free removal for a laughable and versatile set of drawbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 The fact that it removes as a cost also bypasses most kind of negation and immunity, which is pretty problematic in a generic quick-play card. At most you usually will only take 1500s damage from this, But really, removal as a cost is problematic enough tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant F.U.R.Y.™ Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I might suggest something along the lines of: Target 1 monster on the field: Send the targeted monster to the top of the Deck, then activate 1 of the following effects: -Place 1 card from your hand on the bottom of your Deck. -Take damage equal half of the sent monster's original ATK. -Skip your Next Battle Phase. You can only activate 1 "Darkness Hand" per turn. But that, I think, might be a little too nerfed...idk...what was the idea behind this card? How were you picturing it being used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I might suggest something along the lines of: Target 1 monster on the field: Send the targeted monster to the top of the Deck, then activate 1 of the following effects:-Place 1 card from your hand on the bottom of your Deck.-Take damage equal half of the sent monster's original ATK.-Skip your Next Battle Phase.You can only activate 1 "Darkness Hand" per turn. But that, I think, might be a little too nerfed...idk...what was the idea behind this card? How were you picturing it being used?Uh, how the hell is making it a more versatile drawback-wise and activation wise, but less versatile in targets version of Phoenix Wing Wind Blast nerfing it?Do you not understand how good of a car PWWB is as-is? This does lack the ability to hit floodgates, but it's less costly and faster, so it doesn't lose to cards like Denko Sekka (unlike PWWB) or set off cards that like being tributed/sent to the grave.Destroying would make it, as I said, a more versatile but less game ending Ring of Destruction, and that's the WEAKEST form of removal.Also, you can stack 2 of the BP loss and lose basically nothing from it, which is really an oversight in design.By the way, you don't activate the secondary effects, you apply them.The "drawbacks" of this card ,even if it was designed in a way that didn't tribute opponent's cards as a cost, is way too lenient for a Quickplay 1-for-1 removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant F.U.R.Y.™ Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 just trying to help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- Minimania - Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I think this could be useful if you end up drawing Rank-Up-Magic The Seventh One first turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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