Atypical-Abbie Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Field Spell Card During your Standby Phase: You can Special Summon 1 "Infernoid Token" (Fiend-Type/FIRE/Level 1/ATK 0/DEF 0). To Special Summon an "Infernoid" monster using its own procedure, you can banish "Infernoid" monster(s) you control instead of those in the Graveyard (or any combination of both). Your opponent cannot target "Infernoid" monsters you control for attacks or with card effects, except the "Infernoid" monster you control with the highest Level (either, if tied). Good old Konami and your weird choice of PSCT, but hey, I guess it's at least clear on what it does. Anyway, I personally like this card a lot, since it allows consistently have monsters to banish without also having to worry about running out, plus you can use the Token for other various purpose, such as a Tribute Summon, in case that's your jam. The last effect is also quite handy since their lower Levels might easily die, so you can keep those on the field and have them use their effects again and again. While it cannot help to OTK, it can be more substantial due to the fragile nature of the Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 BLEH That card wording is just awful. Anyway, as I've said before, this field pretty much does anything you could ever want in a field, but you have to draw it to play it - which seems like an obvious fact, but with the way Infernoids mill, this is going to be in the Graveyard really often. Not to mention the traditional Field Spell weakness to MST means you might not get anything out of it even if you did play it. It does have an interesting application for an Infernoid Monarch build though, which I could imagine really taking off if Belphagor turns out to have a great effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 "Using its own procedure" I understand it, but c'mon Konami, kids play this game too. And kids generally don't know what "procedure" means. Couldn't you at least use simpler words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 BLEH That card wording is just awful. Anyway, as I've said before, this field pretty much does anything you could ever want in a field, but you have to draw it to play it - which seems like an obvious fact, but with the way Infernoids mill, this is going to be in the Graveyard really often. Not to mention the traditional Field Spell weakness to MST means you might not get anything out of it even if you did play it. It does have an interesting application for an Infernoid Monarch build though, which I could imagine really taking off if Belphagor turns out to have a great effect. Did we forget that Terraforming exists? "Using its own procedure" I understand it, but c'mon Konami, kids play this game too. And kids generally don't know what "procedure" means. Couldn't you at least use simpler words? It should have said "Summoning procedure" instead, that would make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 BLEH That card wording is just awful. "Using its own procedure" I understand it, but c'mon Konami, kids play this game too. And kids generally don't know what "procedure" means. Couldn't you at least use simpler words? Could be worse, Soul Strike says Deficit instead of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 "Using its own procedure" I understand it, but c'mon Konami, kids play this game too. And kids generally don't know what "procedure" means. Couldn't you at least use simpler words? I guess if nothing else, it'll help expand their vocabulary, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 It might have been less clunky to say "by its Summon Condition" or something, but I don't find it difficult to understand in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Did we forget that Terraforming exists? In the sense that Infernoids are a deck which mills itself quite a lot, so there's a bigger chance of this landing in grave rather than being drawn, and it lacks any sort of from-grave effect, which makes it a much less appealing option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Anyway, as I've said before, this field pretty much does anything you could ever want in a field, but you have to draw it to play it - which seems like an obvious fact, but with the way Infernoids mill, this is going to be in the Graveyard really often. With the exception of the Assault Modes or Metalmorphs, ALL cards need to be drawn to be used. This thing's real problem is it's too slow, and you're too likely to just mill it tryingto set your guys up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 With the exception of the Assault Modes or Metalmorphs, ALL cards need to be drawn to be used. This thing's real problem is it's too slow, and you're too likely to just mill it tryingto set your guys up. That's what I mean. The ideal open is basically milling 25% of your deck. The only other decks that really do this (Lightsworn, Shaddoll) also have Field Spells. How many times do you see those? Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 In the sense that Infernoids are a deck which mills itself quite a lot, so there's a bigger chance of this landing in grave rather than being drawn, and it lacks any sort of from-grave effect, which makes it a much less appealing option. In case you run random mill cards, which I really don't think is a very good idea in any Deck, I like controlled mills betters, it is maybe a bit idea, but you can easily fetch it with something like Kuribandit without having to worry about it dropping in the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 In case you run random mill cards, which I really don't think is a very good idea in any Deck, I like controlled mills betters. Infernoids do have a card that lets you do that, but it's slow and dies to MST, or even if you have a set monster. So random quick deck destruction is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 "Using it's own procedure"I have mixed feelings about this type of wording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 "Cannot target...(either, if tied)" is going to be interpreted backwards. I'm not even sure which way it works. Why would they do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Infernoids do have a card that lets you do that, but it's slow and dies to MST, or even if you have a set monster. So random quick deck destruction is the way to go. MST stop any Continuous Spell/Trap so should we stop running them for that reason? Why would you ever have a Set monster in Infernoid in the first pkace. I don't agree with the idea of random mills, at least not if they are not complety like Kuribandit, but to each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 MST stop any Continuous Spell/Trap so should we stop running them for that reason? Why would you ever have a Set monster in Infernoid in the first pkace. I don't agree with the idea of random mills, at least not if they are not complety like Kuribandit, but to each their own. Question: Have you actually played the deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I would have thought they'd use the word way over procedure, since they do that with nomi. Either way this card was king of the sneak. If you had this and Infernoids you were guaranteed top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Question: Have you actually played the deck? Yeah, of course I have. I just don't play "throw everything in the Graveyard and hope for the best". It's not something I prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yeah, of course I have. I just don't play "throw everything in the Graveyard and hope for the best". It's not something I prefer. I thought like you on day 1. Then I noticed Nehemoth said "or Graveyard" and it was all about deck destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 The token looks very intresting. Was this what everyone had in mind for how the token would look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ah, it's beautiful. No, I expected little demons. The flavor is overwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hunter_ Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 >"procedure" Strange wording. Although it's not really a big deal, since almost everyone knows what "procedure" means. At least, I hope so. But then again, little kids do play this game and you cannot expect all of them to be able to comprehend this card. Card itself is cool, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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