Atypical-Abbie Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 There is only 1 Vassal so far, and sadly no news on more, so I thought I would make my own support. The name refers to Caius' name, as Caius' name is based on Gaius Julius Ceaser, but its name is spelled with a C, the same spelling here is spelled with a C as well. The effect isn't really like Caius, but I'm not sure how I would make that work, so I just made it work differently entirely. Culius the Shadow Vassal Fiend-Type/DARK Level 4 If you control a Tribute Summoned monster and your opponent controls a monster, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand). During the End Phase, if this card is in the Graveyard because it was sent there from the field this turn: You can add 1 Level 4 monster with 800 ATK or DEF and 1000 ATK or DEF from your Deck to your hand, except "Culius the Shadow Vassal" 1000/800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Wouldn't it make more sense just to say this card can self-summon if the opponent controls a card? I mean, the concept for the 'Vessel' monsters is that they self-summon if the target(s) for the intended monarch are present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Wouldn't it make more sense just to say this card can self-summon if the opponent controls a card? I mean, the concept for the 'Vessel' monsters is that they self-summon if the target(s) for the intended monarch are present. Maybe, but I still liked the idea of this card, though yeah, it does mean that you can't as easily get a Tribute Summon off, though you can Set Escalation and use it during your opponent's turn if you need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 I think your OCG is a tiny bit off near the end. Let me get that for you Culius the Shadow Vassal Fiend-Type/DARK Level 4 If you control a Tribute Summoned monster, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand). During the End Phase, if this card was sent from the field to the is in the Graveyard because it was sent there from the field this turn: You can add 1 Level 4 monster with 800 ATK or DEF and 1000 ATK or DEF from your Deck to your hand, except "Culius the Shadow Vassal" 1000/800 Also going with Armadilloz's suggestion, simply controlling a card might be a bit too strong. Maybe make it "If your opponent controls a monster" since Caius should really be banishing monsters. Or you could leave it as is. Honestly it's not terrible as is, but it is a bit out of place without Escalation, but with Escalation is where this thing really shines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted January 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 I think your OCG is a tiny bit off near the end. Let me get that for you Also going with Armadilloz's suggestion, simply controlling a card might be a bit too strong. Maybe make it "If your opponent controls a monster" since Caius should really be banishing monsters. Or you could leave it as is. Honestly it's not terrible as is, but it is a bit out of place without Escalation, but with Escalation is where this thing really shines. True, that is the proper way to word that, I think it was understandable. Sure, that won't hurt it too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 I think your OCG is a tiny bit off near the end. Let me get that for you Also going with Armadilloz's suggestion, simply controlling a card might be a bit too strong. Maybe make it "If your opponent controls a monster" since Caius should really be banishing monsters. Or you could leave it as is. Honestly it's not terrible as is, but it is a bit out of place without Escalation, but with Escalation is where this thing really shines. Caius is better at hitting backrow and Raiza is better at hitting monsters, despite the burn effect Caius has tacked on. Also, your suggestion makes this way too spammable in any Deck that decides to run Rank 4s, as well as being Tribute fodder. Escher can be avoided by the opponent simply by not having 2 backrow, but trying to avoid this means you won't even attempt to play the game. I know Kageto and Assault Halberd exist, but being able to toss half of your R4 play onto the field without any drawbacks whatsoever (including your Normal Summon) for such an easy-to-fulfill requirement shouldn't really happen. Hell, on the (seemingly low) chance you have two of these in hand, you get the Summon for free. It's not Noden, but I still don't like the idea of this doing that. OT: Huh, this can search Wattpheasant. Aside from that, its targets are either irrelevant or Escher. As we get more Vassals, the search effect might need to be moved to a Vassal with a more obscure SSing requirement, but right now it's ok. If you're actually going to change the requirement to something as simple as your opponent having a board at all, then I recommend that it have some restrictions put on it, since it'd be far too easy to get those fulfilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireofDarkness Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hmmm.... Interesting. I dig this whole Vassal thing going around. However, like Progenitor said, this card requires Escalation to maximize out on. For the Vassals, they usually have you maximize the effect out of the Monarch you are trying to summon. Even though technically it would be situational, it would be best have it require a DARK monster to Special Summon it, again maximizing the effect of Caius like every other Vassal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Caius is better at hitting backrow and Raiza is better at hitting monsters, despite the burn effect Caius has tacked on. Also, your suggestion makes this way too spammable in any Deck that decides to run Rank 4s, as well as being Tribute fodder. Escher can be avoided by the opponent simply by not having 2 backrow, but trying to avoid this means you won't even attempt to play the game. I know Kageto and Assault Halberd exist, but being able to toss half of your R4 play onto the field without any drawbacks whatsoever (including your Normal Summon) for such an easy-to-fulfill requirement shouldn't really happen. Hell, on the (seemingly low) chance you have two of these in hand, you get the Summon for free. It's not Noden, but I still don't like the idea of this doing that. That can simply be avoided by tacking on a: "This card cannot be used as Xyz Material for an Xyz Summon". Problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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