-kyo- Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Raid Raptors – Fuzzy Lanius / Raidraptor – Fuzzy Lanius Dark Winged Beast / Effect LV4 500/1500 You can only use each effect of “Raidraptor – Fuzzy Lanius” once per turn. During the turn you activate this card’s effect(s), you cannot Special Summon monsters, except “Raidraptor” monsters. (1) If you control a “Raidraptor” monster other than “Raidraptor – Fuzzy Lanius”: You can Special Summon this card from your hand. (2) If this card is sent to the Graveyard: You can add 1 “Raidraptor – Fuzzy Lanius” from your Deck to your hand. http://ygorganization.com/wearefuturefighters/ *the birds movie joke here* please discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Always nice to have more monsters, the restriction seems fair for what it does, but it isn't too hard to make their Xyzs regardless, but I'm not complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 They buffed this, and now it's actually highly playable. How nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 We knew it would probably get a buff, and yeah it does look pretty playable, I don't care if it has the restriction tbh. It seems fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 You know what's really damn cool about This? The fact it makes Nest more live, outside of Vanishing/Piercing plays. Not to mention, you can do dumb stuff like play any Raptor, Special This, make Strix, detach This to search Vanishing + another copy of This. So on the off chance you have to sit on Strix for a turn, it sets you up for a 3 Material play/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Finding space for this is easy. -2 Summoner Monk -1 Tribute Lanius +3 Fuzzy Lanius if Singing Lanius gets a worthwhile buff, that will be significantly harder to fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherries Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Okay so I was half right on its exact buff.Still gives you two searches from a single Strix detach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 For fast effective relief of hand constipation, there's Fuzzy Lanius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Considering the anime version said you had to control Vanishing Lanius...yeah, this is an improvement. However, it can't spam the way that the anime version did (which is good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I dunno, I'm not impressed enough to say it replaces monk, though it probably does go over Tribute #3. 2-3 of. The restriction is extremely real, so you have to SS it with Vanishing Lanius in order to get maximum value off of it (good flavor, I approve). Monk is extra copies of Vanishing Lanius, who is the most important RR to get. It's like a Bora/Kris that sucks on its own. At least it floats whenever it hits the grave? Monk is still going to be an MVP for the deck, this is just some extra utility/names that maintains advantage without permanently losing a Mimicry Lanius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I dunno, I'm not impressed enough to say it replaces monk, though it probably does go over Tribute #3. 2-3 of. The restriction is extremely real, so you have to SS it with Vanishing Lanius in order to get maximum value off of it (good flavor, I approve). Monk is extra copies of Vanishing Lanius, who is the most important RR to get. It's like a Bora/Kris that sucks on its own. At least it floats whenever it hits the grave? Monk is still going to be an MVP for the deck, this is just some extra utility/names that maintains advantage without permanently losing a Mimicry Lanius. What about Kagetokage then? Think it will replace that instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I dunno, I'm not impressed enough to say it replaces monk, though it probably does go over Tribute #3. 2-3 of. The restriction is extremely real, so you have to SS it with Vanishing Lanius in order to get maximum value off of it (good flavor, I approve). Monk is extra copies of Vanishing Lanius, who is the most important RR to get. It's like a Bora/Kris that sucks on its own. At least it floats whenever it hits the grave? Monk is still going to be an MVP for the deck, this is just some extra utility/names that maintains advantage without permanently losing a Mimicry Lanius. Konami is a big fan of decks being run "pure", which is why over time the SHS monsters have pushed the no S/T thing. They're likely trying to move towards pure RR that don't need Monk, and in that sense this guy is very useful. I do think the restrictions are a little overdone, the first effect didn't need to be OPT, but I suppose they don't want people doing Shun's triple Strix loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 The problem is that RR are defensive. 2 Level 4s only gets you Strix under Fuzzy. That's a good card and all, but it really isn't offensive. A third level 4 gets you Rise Falcon, but is that card really worth it? I mean, I guess Fuzzy is an argument for teching it, but there's better stuff to make like CyDra Infinity or S39-L, and the two of those takes /5/ Extra Deck slots. So then you add 2-3 Strix, Castel, DRXD, Zerofyne, Abyss Dweller, possibly Key Beetle, possibly F0, possibly Cowboy (it does win games here), possibly 80, and... That's before Adreus, Tiras, Zenmaioh. what space do you have to run a mediocre 3-mat that makes this slightly better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 The problem is that RR are defensive. 2 Level 4s only gets you Strix under Fuzzy. That's a good card and all, but it really isn't offensive. A third level 4 gets you Rise Falcon, but is that card really worth it? I mean, I guess Fuzzy is an argument for teching it, but there's better stuff to make like CyDra Infinity or S39-L, and the two of those takes /5/ Extra Deck slots. So then you add 2-3 Strix, Castel, DRXD, Zerofyne, Abyss Dweller, possibly Key Beetle, possibly F0, possibly Cowboy (it does win games here), possibly 80, and... That's before Adreus, Tiras, Zenmaioh. what space do you have to run a mediocre 3-mat that makes this slightly better? I'm just telling you what Konami does, I'm not evaluating that plan. I'll guarantee you we'll get more RR Xyz though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 The problem is that RR are defensive. 2 Level 4s only gets you Strix under Fuzzy. That's a good card and all, but it really isn't offensive. A third level 4 gets you Rise Falcon, but is that card really worth it? I mean, I guess Fuzzy is an argument for teching it, but there's better stuff to make like CyDra Infinity or S39-L, and the two of those takes /5/ Extra Deck slots. So then you add 2-3 Strix, Castel, DRXD, Zerofyne, Abyss Dweller, possibly Key Beetle, possibly F0, possibly Cowboy (it does win games here), possibly 80, and... That's before Adreus, Tiras, Zenmaioh. what space do you have to run a mediocre 3-mat that makes this slightly better? Does no one else use Mimicry to get a free rank-up into blaze falcon? No? Alright then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 what space do you have to run a mediocre 3-mat that makes this slightly better?To be fair, Black, there is nothing wrong with Konami making cards/etc that help you make intended plays that the Deck/Archetype/etc is seemingly known for.However, nobody should ever expect said cards to be good, outside of that.Which is, of course, the issue that you pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeline15 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Why run rise falcon? because personally, when I play a deck based around an archetype, I tend to like to include the ace monster of that archetype. Same reason I run leyvaten in dragunities even though I'd probably be better server trying to go into Vajrayana every turn I can. It just feels like he should be there. I also like archetype decks to be as pure as possible, hence, if fuzzy can take over the role of summoner monk, I'll be happy. Either way, it certainly seems like a good boost to the deck. :) Btw, can someone clarify something about the effect for me? (I'm not so good at interpreting card wording) If I have 2 of these, can they both use their effect during the same turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Why run rise falcon? because personally, when I play a deck based around an archetype, I tend to like to include the ace monster of that archetype. Same reason I run leyvaten in dragunities even though I'd probably be better server trying to go into Vajrayana every turn I can. It just feels like he should be there. I also like archetype decks to be as pure as possible, hence, if fuzzy can take over the role of summoner monk, I'll be happy. Either way, it certainly seems like a good boost to the deck. :) Btw, can someone clarify something about the effect for me? (I'm not so good at interpreting card wording) If I have 2 of these, can they both use their effect during the same turn? but it's in the kagetokage slot, not monk. And Monk's an honorary RR, most people that have touched the deck say such. Playing in theme is fine, but suboptimally in theme (not rise falcon, btw) is a poor choice, usually. Each effect OPT. So, you can SS one and search with another, or SS and search with the same one. But only one iteration each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeline15 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 ah, is that because it specifies "raidraptor fuzzy lanius" in the text instead of "this card" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 ah, is that because it specifies "raidraptor fuzzy lanius" in the text instead of "this card" ?That is correct.Also, wow, I have the biggest love/hate with this card after barely testing at all =/T1/Opp's turn, it's amazing, but it is a fucking bitch.If you open it/can manage to realistically field it T1, you make Owls, you have a party, ole.But why is it "during this turn". If it was "for the rest of this turn" it would still be fair enough, considering it only gets copies of itself. As is, you can easily lose a free +1 or 2, or just have to wait, which can really put you behind.It also bugs me because it feels like a copout card more than an RR. The SS should have a "if you NS/SS'd a RR this turn" clause, because that's both (marginally) more balanced and more flavorful. I guess the latter effect is fine as-is.I think it's a 3-of just for practicality, and the fact that it's an instant owl with Tribute, but ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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