Xeroxys Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 EDIT: Most updated version of cards can be found here. Hey, all. Recently I created a custom archetype, and I've been tweaking them a lot for balance purposes. This is what I have currently, but I'm aware they could be improved, I'm just not fully sure how to do so. The general idea/inspiration: A Synchro-based archetype similar to Yang Zings, where the Synchro Materials buff the Synchro Monsters they summon. When I first heard about Yang Zings, I was really excited, because I love Synchro Monsters but had never found a Synchro deck I enjoyed playing. For a while I played Yang Zings, but I felt they fell short in a lot of ways. They floated, which was good, but it was typically easy for your opponent to stall you out until they had a board that could take the game. I also didn't love their boss monsters, though they were well-designed. In the end, I considered making custom Yang Zing cards to make the archetype work how I wanted, but the final result felt much too forced, so I decided just to make a new archetype. The archetype: Name: Synchronauts Lore Basis: Robotic recreations of famous historical figures Members: [spoiler="Synchronaut Buddha"] Synchronaut Buddha [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [*] 0/0 When this card you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon 1 "Synchronaut" monster from your Deck. You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” card from your Deck to your hand. This card is unaffected by your opponent’s monster effects. A Synchro Monster that used this card as a Synchro Material is unaffected by the effects of your opponent’s monsters whose original Levels/Ranks are lower than that Synchro Monster’s current Level.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Houdini"] Synchronaut Houdini [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [*] 0/0 When this card you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon 1 "Synchronaut" monster from your Deck. You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” card from your Deck to your hand. This card is unaffected by your opponent’s Trap effects. A Synchro Monster that used this card as a Synchro Material is unaffected by non-“Synchronaut” Trap effects.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Merlin"] Synchronaut Merlin [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [*] 0/0 When this card you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon 1 "Synchronaut" monster from your Deck. You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” card from your Deck to your hand. This card is unaffected by your opponent’s Spell effects. A Synchro Monster that used this card as a Synchro Material is unaffected by non-“Synchronaut” Spell effects.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Rasputin"] Synchronaut Rasputin [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [*] 0/0 When this card you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon 1 "Synchronaut" monster from your Deck. You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” card from your Deck to your hand. This card cannot be destroyed by battle. A Synchro Monster that used this card as a Synchro Material cannot be destroyed by battle.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Socrates"] Synchronaut Socrates [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [*] 0/0 When this card you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon 1 "Synchronaut" monster from your Deck. You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” card from your Deck to your hand. This card cannot be Tributed, except by its own effect. A Synchro Monster that used this card as a Synchro Material cannot be Tributed.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Häyhä"] Synchronaut Häyhä [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [*] 0/0 When this card you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon 1 "Synchronaut" monster from your Deck. You can Tribute/discard this card to active 1 of the following effects; ● Add 1 “Synchronaut” card from your Deck to your hand. ● Target 1 card on the field; destroy that target, and if you do, banish this card from your Graveyard.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Ford"] Synchronaut Ford [Monster|Effect|Tuner] Machine/Earth [*] 0/0 When this card you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon 1 "Synchronaut" monster from your Deck. During your Main Phase: You can send to the Graveyard this face-up card and at least 1 non-Tuner “Synchronaut” monster(s) from your side of the field or in your hand, and if you do, apply 1 of the following effects: ● Target 1 Synchro Monster in your Extra Deck whose Level is equal to or less than the number of “Synchronaut” monsters in your Graveyard; Special Summon it. This Special Summon is treated as a Synchro Summon, and the sent monsters are treated as its Synchro Materials. ● Target 1 Synchro Monster you control; the sent monsters are treated as its Synchro Materials.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Schindler"] Synchronaut Schindler [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [*] 0/0 When this card you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon 1 "Synchronaut" monster from your Deck. You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” card from your Deck to your hand. When this card is sent to the Graveyard or Banished Zone: you can shuffle all "Synchronaut" cards and/or Synchro Monsters from your Graveyard and Banished Zone into the Deck, except this card.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Overlord"] Synchronaut Overlord [Monster|Machine|Synchro|Effect] [************] 3000/3000 1 "Synchronaut" Tuner + 1 or more "Synchronaut" non-Tuner monsters If this card would leave the field by battle or card effect, you can instead destroy 1 Synchro Monster equipped to this card. This card gains the effects of any Synchro Monster(s) currently equipped to it. During your Main Phase: You can activate 1 of the following effects; ● You can target 1 Synchro Monster you control; equip that target to this card. ● You can target 1 Synchro Monster equipped to this card; unequip that target and Special Summon it.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Factory"] Synchronaut Factory [Spell|Field] You cannot Special Summon monsters, except Synchro Monsters and “Synchronaut” monsters. While you control a Synchro Monster, this card is unaffected by your opponent’s card effects. Synchro Monsters in your Spell & Trap Card Zone are unaffected by your opponent’s card effects. When a monster is Synchro Summoned, you can draw 1 card. When a Synchro Monster you control is sent to the Graveyard or Banished Zone, you can return it to the Extra Deck. If a Synchro Monster you previously Synchro Summoned is Special Summoned from anywhere but your Extra Deck, it is treated as Synchro Summoned with its previous Synchro Materials.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Reconstruction"] Synchronaut Reconstruction [Spell] This card can only be activated while you control a “Synchronaut Factory”. Special Summon 1 “Synchronaut” monster or Synchro Monster from your Graveyard.[/spoiler] --- And that's the archetype so far! Obviously, there's some work that needs to be done, both with balance and with PSCT, I'm sure. However, after testing them out, I feel like they do capture a lot of what I was hoping for from the archetype, so I'd like to balance them while still holding onto some of that feeling. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalRock547 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'm just going to say this now, the Archetype is awesome. Although, you can't synchro summon without a tuner monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeroxys Posted May 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I'm just going to say this now, the Archetype is awesome.Although, you can't synchro summon without a tuner monster. Thanks! I'm glad you like the archetype. And to address your concern, Synchronaut Ford is the "Tuner" of the archetype (I put that in quotations, but he is actually a Tuner). Granted, the Special Summoning going on via Ford's effect isn't Synchro Summoning in the orthodox sense; it's simply being treated as such, the same way a Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon by the effect of Instant Fusion, for example. On an unrelated note, this is the issue I'm currently working on with regard to the cards' balance: I'm trying to find a way to modify their Tribute/discard-to-search effects so that they can't simply flood the Graveyard on Turn 1 and bring out any Synchro Monster, but I also don't want to nerf it to the point where you have to play a sitting duck for 3-4 turns before you can actually get a real monster on the board, as I feel that's way too slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeroxys Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Bump So my current balancing idea is to add a "Once per turn" clause to the effect monsters floating and searching effects, as well as making it so that they cannot target other copies of themselves. I don't have updated copies of them yet, but I'll post them once I do. Any other input until then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeroxys Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Remade all of the cards to varying extents, with the primary intention being to remove unintended exploits/brokenness, but also general balancing issues. [spoiler="Synchronaut Buddha"] Synchronaut Buddha [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [****] 1000/1000 This card is unaffected by your opponent’s monster effects. A Synchro Monster that used this card as a Synchro Material is unaffected by the effects of monsters whose original Levels/Ranks are lower than that Synchro Monster’s original Level, except its own. During your Main Phase: You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” monster from your Deck to your hand, except “Synchronaut Buddha”. You can only use this effect of “Synchronaut Buddha” once per turn.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Ford"] Synchronaut Ford [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [****] 1000/1000 During your Main Phase: You can banish this face-up card and at least 1 non-Tuner “Synchronaut” monster from your side of the field or in your hand, and if you do, activate 1 of the following effects: ● Target 1 Synchro Monster in your Extra Deck whose Level is equal to or less than the number of “Synchronaut” monsters in your Graveyard; Special Summon it. This Special Summon is treated as a Synchro Summon, and the banished monsters are treated as its Synchro Materials. ● Target 1 Synchro Monster you control; the banished monsters are treated as its Synchro Materials (its number of Synchro Materials is not treated as increased).[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Häyhä"] Synchronaut Häyhä [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [****] 1000/1000 If this card is sent to the Graveyard: You can target 1 card on the field; destroy that target, also banish this card from your Graveyard. During your Main Phase: You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” card from your Deck to your hand, except “Synchronaut Häyhä”. You can only use each effect of “Synchronaut Häyhä” once per turn.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Hippocrates"] Synchronaut Hippocrates [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [****] 1000/1000 If this card is sent to the Graveyard: You can Special Summon 1 “Synchronaut” monster from your Deck or Graveyard, except “Synchronaut Hippocrates”. During your Main Phase: You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” monster from your Deck to your hand, except “Synchronaut Hippocrates”. You can only use each effect of “Synchronaut Hippocrates” once per turn.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Houdini"] Synchronaut Houdini [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [****] 1000/1000 This card is unaffected by your opponent’s Trap effects. A Synchro Monster that used this card as a Synchro Material is unaffected by non-“Synchronaut” Trap effects. During your Main Phase: You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” monster from your Deck to your hand, except “Synchronaut Houdini”. You can only use this effect of “Synchronaut Houdini” once per turn.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Merlin"] Synchronaut Merlin [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [****] 1000/1000 This card is unaffected by your opponent’s Spell effects. A Synchro Monster that used this card as a Synchro Material is unaffected by non-“Synchronaut” Spell effects, except Synchro Monsters in your Spell & Trap Card Zone. During your Main Phase: You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” monster from your Deck to your hand, except “Synchronaut Merlin”. You can only use this effect of “Synchronaut Merlin” once per turn.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Rasputin"] Synchronaut Rasputin [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [****] 1000/1000 This card cannot be destroyed by battle. A Synchro Monster that used this card as a Synchro Material cannot be destroyed by battle or by card effect. During your Main Phase: You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” monster from your Deck to your hand, except “Synchronaut Rasputin”. You can only use this effect of “Synchronaut Rasputin” once per turn.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Schindler"] Synchronaut Schindler [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [****] 1000/1000 If this card is sent to the Graveyard or Banished Zone: you can shuffle up to 5 "Synchronaut" monsters from your Graveyard and/or Banished Zone into your Deck, except this card. Once per turn, you can Tribute/discard this card to activate 1 of the following effects of “Synchronaut Schindler”: ● Add 1 “Synchronaut” monster from your Deck to your hand, except “Synchronaut Schindler”. ● Add 1 “Synchronaut” card from your Graveyard or Banished Zone to your hand, except “Synchronaut Schindler”.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Socrates"] Synchronaut Socrates [Monster|Effect] Machine/Earth [****] 1000/1000 This card cannot be Tributed, except by its own effect. A Synchro Monster that used this card as a Synchro Material cannot be Tributed. During your Main Phase: You can Tribute/discard this card to add 1 “Synchronaut” monster from your Deck to your hand, except “Synchronaut Socrates”. You can only use this effect of “Synchronaut Socrates” once per turn.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Overlord"] Synchronaut Overlord [Monster|Synchro|Effect] Machine/Earth [************] 3000/3000 1 "Synchronaut" Tuner + 2 "Synchronaut" non-Tuner monsters Must be Synchro Summoned, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. This card’s Synchro Summon cannot be negated. If this card would leave the field by battle or card effect, you can instead destroy 1 Synchro Monster equipped to this card. This card gains the effects of any Synchro Monster(s) currently equipped to it. Once per turn, you can activate 1 of the following effects: ● Target 1 Synchro Monster you control; equip that target to this card. ● Target 1 Synchro Monster equipped to this card; unequip that target and Special Summon it. [/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Factory"] Synchronaut Factory [Spell|Field] You cannot Special Summon monsters, except Synchro Monsters and “Synchronaut” monsters. This card and all Synchro Monsters in your Spell & Trap Zone are unaffected by non-“Synchronaut” card effects while you control a face-up Synchro Monster. Once per turn: If you have fewer non-Equip Spell/Trap Cards in your Spell & Trap Zone than your opponent, you can target 1 “Synchronaut” monster in your Graveyard; add it to your hand. If a Synchro Monster you previously Synchro Summoned is Flip Summoned or Special Summoned from anywhere but your Extra Deck: It is treated as Synchro Summoned with its previous Synchro Materials.[/spoiler] [spoiler="Synchronaut Reconstruction"] Synchronaut Reconstruction [Spell] Excavate the top 5 cards of your Deck, then send any number of excavated “Synchronaut” monsters to the Graveyard, also shuffle the rest back into your Deck; Special Summon “Synchronaut” monsters and/or Synchro Monsters from your Graveyard, up to the number of cards sent to the Graveyard by this effect. The Special Summoned monsters cannot attack, cannot be Tributed, cannot be used as a Fusion or Xyz Material for a Summon, and are banished during the End Phase, also the effects of any Synchro Monsters Special Summoned by this effect are negated.[/spoiler] --- Notable changes Effect monsters' searching effects are now limited to once per turn and have to target monsters other than themselves, meaning you can't just dump the entire deck into the Graveyard first turn and bring out a huge Synchro. Floating has been removed entirely, as it was pointed out to me that the Deck was too good at maintaining advantage. Synchro Summoning with Ford requires you to banish both himself and any other materials used, adding an additional cost and reducing spam. Effect monsters are (with the exception of Häyhä) now only capable of searching monsters. Complete rework of Reconstruction, adding an element of chance and making it less of a Monster Reborn and more of a Synchro Summon setup. Limited Overlord's effect to prevent infinite drawing shenanigans and whatnot. Levels + Atk/Def modified to make more sense and also to make them harder to search for. EDIT: Added "Synchronaut Hippocrates". Things to possibly work on next Some people have expressed a dislike for the discarding system, but after I implemented another user's suggestion for the once-per-turn limit on the effect monsters, I really don't think it's a real balance issue. I'm open to revising it, but as it stands, especially with the floating gone, the deck needs a way to get something worthwhile on the board within a few turns. Similarly, some people don't like the way that Ford's Synchro Summoning works, saying that it's not really Synchro Summoning. But it's a valid, pre-existing mechanic. And the entire point of the archetype is to make all Synchro Monsters viable by making them easier to summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeroxys Posted May 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Bump. Current plan is to fix Overlord by limiting his effect to once per turn. I was hesitant to do this, because it can make it awkward to maneuver cards around to be the targets of Ford's effect, but then I realized Ford could just target them in the Spell & Trap Zone, which is an accompanying edit I'm going to make. I think this is huge in terms of balance, as it means Overlord can no longer abuse "When this card is Synchro Summoned" effects all willy nilly with no repercussions. Any other input? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeroxys Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Bump. Modified Overlord in my earlier post, so that post now has up-to-date versions of all the cards, at least at the time I'm writing this post. Still looking for any input anyone might have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 The cards are rather heavily focused on Synchro Summoning the Overlord, so some back-up attackers/defenders would be a welcome addition to help getting Overlord summoned quicker/easier, as well as some trap cards and spell cards to back up said attackers/defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeroxys Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 The cards are rather heavily focused on Synchro Summoning the Overlord, so some back-up attackers/defenders would be a welcome addition to help getting Overlord summoned quicker/easier, as well as some trap cards and spell cards to back up said attackers/defenders. Thanks for the reply! As it stands, I think Rasputin works well as a defender because of his battle destruction immunity. In terms of an attacker, I suppose I could maybe make a Level >4 monster with higher stats that could be Tribute Summoned in the interim, but I'd have to think about what his effects might be. What sort of things did you have in mind for Trap/Spell backup? Bearing in mind that, as Factory is currently designed, it's beneficial to the archetype to not have many set/continuous Spells/Traps for longer than necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Thanks for the reply! As it stands, I think Rasputin works well as a defender because of his battle destruction immunity. In terms of an attacker, I suppose I could maybe make a Level >4 monster with higher stats that could be Tribute Summoned in the interim, but I'd have to think about what his effects might be. What sort of things did you have in mind for Trap/Spell backup? Bearing in mind that, as Factory is currently designed, it's beneficial to the archetype to not have many set/continuous Spells/Traps for longer than necessary. No problem. ^^ I saw you were desperate for more opinions so decided to give my own two cents. Yeah, that could work, that could work. For basic ideas to work off of, you can never go wrong with piercing battle damage. For Traps, I was thinking something along the lines of a Machine-protecting Mirror Force-esque card that destroys all opponent's monsters on the field. In terms of spells, I was thinking maybe a Quick-play spell that increases your Life Points by 300/500 for every Synchronaut on the field. Hope this helps. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeroxys Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Much appreciated! I'll give your ideas some thought and consider adding some new cards to the archetype. Thanks again for the input and feel free to comment on any subsequent changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeroxys Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I've created a thread for the archetype in Advanced Multiples, which can be found here. Until further notice, that's where I'll be updating them, so if anyone has any input, please go post there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Next time, just PM one of the moderators online to move it instead of posting a new thread. Topic locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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