GarlandChaos Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 So. Yeah. This thing. It's banned, and has been for a while now. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 It's banned. It has been for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 It's pretty good if your opponent has a card(s) in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 It's pretty good if your opponent has a card(s) in hand.The value of the card grows with the opponent's hand size. Against a one-card hand, seeing it first is irrelevant, but with 2+ cards you receive information on top of your discard, and the more cards you know the better. So the card is most valuable early-game. This was one of the two Trinities, along with Forceful Sentry and Delinquent Duo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 You can avoid paying Life Points by using Destiny Hero Diamond Dude. Weaker cards than this are banned, zero chance it returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuelSpectre Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Konami doesn't like us having nice things.Konami doesn't like us having unbalanced things.Konami doesn't like us having unhealthy...actually, scratch that. So they.....confiscated them. ------ What, no dice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 It's still not as bad as The Forceful Sentry in my opinion, especially in the current game state where having things in the Graveyard isn't the worst thing in the world, but it's an unbalanced card that has no right to exist within the current meta-game. It's powerful because it also lets you see the opponent's hand which means combos with Mind Crush (just like you had with Dustshoot), only if you go first and open this, you have an immediate advantage. That being said, with the rumors that Konami wants everything to come off the list at least once, it wouldn't shock me to see this come back to 1, even though I'm highly against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I dont know why but I wouldnt find this a big problem to be at 1, especially how first turn starts with 5 cardsobv it shouldnt but if it did it wouldnt be as bad as what other cards have been like that draw 5/6 card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of the Abyss Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 This card back in the day was NUTS! Anything really that just, for no cost whatsoever, (Let's be honest, LP wasn't a real cost) can just get free information out of the opponent's handand disrupt it at the same time is absolutely insane. But I suppose we already have seen that with Mind Crush. I don't see this card nor its counterparts returning for a VERY long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Trapdust Shoot ages before this please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Trapdust Shoot ages before this pleaseIn all fairness, sending back to the deck is far more powerful than discarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 In all fairness, sending back to the deck is far more powerful than discarding.Activate only if your opponent has 4 or more cards in their hand. Look at your opponent's hand, select 1 Monster Card in it, and return that card to its owner's Deck. Pay 1000 Life Points. Look at your opponent's hand, select 1 card in it and discard that card. >Dustshoot is a Trap>Confes has a joke cost>Dustshoot has an awk activation timing>Dust Shoot can only hit monster>Confes can hit spells and traps do I need to go on...hell Dustshoot is even weaker than Mindcrush IMO. I would say unban it, but funkers will stack it and this is why we can't have nice things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Activate only if your opponent has 4 or more cards in their hand. Look at your opponent's hand, select 1 Monster Card in it, and return that card to its owner's Deck. Pay 1000 Life Points. Look at your opponent's hand, select 1 card in it and discard that card. >Dustshoot is a Trap>Confes has a joke cost>Dustshoot has an awk activation timing>Dust Shoot can only hit monster>Confes can hit spells and traps do I need to go on...hell Dustshoot is even weaker than Mindcrush IMO. I would say unban it, but funkers will stack it and this is why we can't have nice thingsoh ok. Completely ignore my point and try to call me out on this sheet. Fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peridank Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 I am happy that Winter decided not to cause a riot in TCG... Ty Winter- The Cold Never Bothered Me Anyway~ (why the hell I type that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Yeah, why are you typing that? Mind Crush getting hit has a bigger probability than this getting to 1. Though that is kinda obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 oh ok. Completely ignore my point and try to call me out on this s***. Fine.Sorry, I lost the final sentence somehow. Dustshoot is inferior in a lot more ways to make up for the spin vs discard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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