Scrap Fusion [anime]

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quick-play

Remove from play, from your opponent's Graveyard, Fusion Material Monsters listed on a Fusion Monster Card in your opponent's Fusion Deck, and Special Summon that monster to your side of the field.

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Scrap_Fusion

 

Frightfur,cyber dragon what else can this be use against?

please discuss

[玄魔の王]

Shaddolls and HEROs come to mind.

[Airride]

Only REALLY useful in Fusion Mirror Matches, but you COULD use it to make stuff like Panzer Dragon, Blaze Fenix, or Beast Eyes.

[玄魔の王]

Only REALLY useful in Fusion Mirror Matches, but you COULD use it to make stuff like Panzer Dragon, Blaze Fenix, or Beast Eyes.

You summon the Fusion Monster from THEIR Extra Deck, not your's.

[Airride]

You summon the Fusion Monster from THEIR Extra Deck, not your's.

Ah, missed that part.

Yeah okay that's pretty good.

[~Faytl~]

Be a great side against Dolls, especially in response to their Falco going off. Good side against Fusion decks in general.

Fluffal- Banish their whole Graveyard and boardwipe.

Hero- Banish their Shadow Mists.

Good card all around.

[Progenitor]

But how would this even work? I understand it would be reasonably easy on Devpro or something, but in order to even activate this, you not only have to know what they have in their extra deck, but know what the materials are without lookin at their extra deck. Yeah early on it won't be that hard to guess the obvious ones, but it still creates a bit of an issue. Lets say you only play 1 Frightfur Lion in your extra deck. You use it early on and it gets dealt with. You opponent uses this and says they want to make Frightfur Lion since you have appropriate materials in your grave. You claim you only play 1 Lion. To prove this, you have to show your extra deck to your opponent. If you are correct, your opponent gets to look at your extra deck for no reason since at that point even activating Scrap Fusion would be considered illegal as there exists no Lion to summon.

 

So if this were ever made into an actual thing, it either needs a penalty for calling a fusion that does not exist in the opponent's extra deck (I.e. Mind Crush), or it has to special summon the fusion from a different place entirely. While the former seems logical, we then run into a Trap Dustshoot type problem, where you get to look at the opponent's extra deck in order to resolve the card, which may be worth it if you can afford to pay the penalty for calling incorrect. Because of this the penalty would have to be pretty severe, and at that point the card might not even be worth it.

[Expelsword]

When you activate it, you look at your opponent's Extra Deck, choose 1.

If you can't summon anything, the card just destroys itself.

 

Simple enough.

[Partangle the Candle Jangler]

When you activate it, you look at your opponent's Extra Deck, choose 1.

If you can't summon anything, the card just destroys itself.

 

Simple enough.

 

You still get to look at your opponent's extra deck for no cost at all.

[Expelsword]

You still get to look at your opponent's extra deck for no cost at all.

 

You should have a good idea of what your opponent's Extra is anyway. Are there that many surprise card these days?

[Tinkerer]

Hmmm...

*thinks hard*

 

Well, even if that mess with having none of those fusions is dealt with, I still think this card (as written) would be nigh useless. Based on the card's text as-is, wouldn't this card only work on fusions with specific materials? The text states "fusion material monsters" which is the same text as on fusions substitute monsters, and they can't take the place of generic materials.

[玄魔の王]

Hmmm...

*thinks hard*

 

Well, even if that mess with having none of those fusions is dealt with, I still think this card (as written) would be nigh useless. Based on the card's text as-is, wouldn't this card only work on fusions with specific materials? The text states "fusion material monsters" which is the same text as on fusions substitute monsters, and they can't take the place of generic materials.

This is pre-PSCT lore. All Fusion cards were written this way before that.

[Mysty]

Hmmm...

*thinks hard*

 

Well, even if that mess with having none of those fusions is dealt with, I still think this card (as written) would be nigh useless. Based on the card's text as-is, wouldn't this card only work on fusions with specific materials? The text states "fusion material monsters" which is the same text as on fusions substitute monsters, and they can't take the place of generic materials.

 

Given that it doesn't actually Fusion Summon, I'm inclined to say you're right. (Evilfusion did state that, since Prisma never intends on Fusion Summoning, it can only send specific names. Additionally, rulings on the Hex-Sealed Fusion series shows that, indeed, it has to be a Fusion Summon to be able to send 'generic' materials.) However, if printed, Konami would either make its summon a Fusion Summon or give some BKSS explanation as to why Scrap Fusion works and not Hex-Sealed Fusion.

 

However, if actually printed, I imagine it would say something like this:

 

If your opponent's graveyard contains Fusion Material for a Fusion Monster: Your opponent reveals their Extra Deck, and if it contains a Fusion monster for which the materials are in their graveyard, Fusion Summon that Fusion monster to your side of the field, banishing monsters from their graveyard as Fusion Material.

[Dog King]

But how would this even work? I understand it would be reasonably easy on Devpro or something, but in order to even activate this, you not only have to know what they have in their extra deck, but know what the materials are without lookin at their extra deck. Yeah early on it won't be that hard to guess the obvious ones, but it still creates a bit of an issue. Lets say you only play 1 Frightfur Lion in your extra deck. You use it early on and it gets dealt with. You opponent uses this and says they want to make Frightfur Lion since you have appropriate materials in your grave. You claim you only play 1 Lion. To prove this, you have to show your extra deck to your opponent. If you are correct, your opponent gets to look at your extra deck for no reason since at that point even activating Scrap Fusion would be considered illegal as there exists no Lion to summon.

So if this were ever made into an actual thing, it either needs a penalty for calling a fusion that does not exist in the opponent's extra deck (I.e. Mind Crush), or it has to special summon the fusion from a different place entirely. While the former seems logical, we then run into a Trap Dustshoot type problem, where you get to look at the opponent's extra deck in order to resolve the card, which may be worth it if you can afford to pay the penalty for calling incorrect. Because of this the penalty would have to be pretty severe, and at that point the card might not even be worth it.

why are you discussing an anime card as if it was about to be released irl

[Queen of the Abyss]

why are you discussing an anime card as if it was about to be released irl

Because this card has a REALLY strange mechanic to it, and thus it draws a lot of questions to it. I don't see the problem with it really, and I enjoy what he has to say

[Partangle the Candle Jangler]

You should have a good idea of what your opponent's Extra is anyway. Are there that many surprise card these days?

 

But it would enable terrible cards like the one where you name a card and your opponent can't summon cards of that name, or the one where you declare Xyx/Synchro/Fusion and burn whoever has more for 3000. Might actually heal for 3000 but I've only ever seen it in burn decks so can't remember if Simochi was up at the time. Either way.

[Dog King]

Because this card has a REALLY strange mechanic to it, and thus it draws a lot of questions to it. I don't see the problem with it really, and I enjoy what he has to say

Its anime

Its not strange at all compared to other cards