Aman Indra Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 So , this is also a rank 4 spam monster , but it counters some powerful decks with it's effect and it banishes on leaving the field and can also produce some recycle. Terra Dragon VladDragon/EARTH/Xyz/Effect2 Level 4 monsters2400 Attack / 1200 DefenseOnce per turn , during either player's turn : When an effect activates in your opponent's graveyard ; you can detach an Xyz material from this card , if you do , negate that effect and shuffle 1 card from any player's graveyard into his/her deck.If this card with Xyz Material leaves the field : Target 1 card in your opponent's graveyard ; Banish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil cucumber Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Hm isn't there a rule that Generic Rank 4's shouldn't pass Utopia or Dark Rebellion's symbolic 2k5 ATK, unless they hold some significant drawback or its a normal monster? I think you should lower it. some ygo grammar fixes:During either player's turn: When an effect is activated in your opponent's Graveyard: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; negate that effect, and if you do, shuffle 1 card from either Graveyard into the Deck. If this card with Xyz Material leaves the field: Target 1 card in your opponent's Graveyard; banish it. I really like Graveyard disruption effs. Cards like this would certainly have its place on the meta, specially if it belongs to some of the most generic extra deck group. The negate eff is quite powerful, it can stop a lot of things that are considered good, and the bonus is really nice. Assuming youre playing a rank 4 spam deck, it can be used to return used rank 4's in the gy back to the extra. The float works like a guarantee that youll get rid of at least 1 thing. This card looks great against the Performages, but something in its first eff makes me think it should have an once per turn restriction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted October 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Glad you liked this card i just hit that extra 100 to compensate for 0 defense.But so many decks just setup their grave so crazy , i thought this would be ok without OPT.Will take your suggestions into play :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Let's compare to Abyss Dweller, shall we? Advantages of Dweller:-Detach material for effectively no effect if you need to-Walling multiple effects in a turn Advantages of this:-Getting problem cards out of the graveyard-Significantly higher ATK, 400-800 higher than Dweller. Honestly, this is too good, generally outclassing a card that see tons of play already. Additionally, DEF doesn't really matter, so using low DEF as a justification for too high of ATK is invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted October 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 so should i tweek the attack or effect should be opt ?And the whole point of making it was to outclass dwellar , we make cards to exceed or support current cards xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Both, I'd say. ATK to 2400 seems fair with either soft or hard OPT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted October 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Both, I'd say. ATK to 2400 seems fair with either soft or hard OPT.Gave the first effect an OPT and adjusted the attack :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 I saw the card earlier, and was also going to suggest to drop the ATK, but that has been already covered. I see this card as basically a single-target Dweller + slower Rhapsody in one. I wouldn't say it outclasses either, although it does get in the coverage territory (so to speak) of both. A weird combination because in a way it half-does the job of 2 different Rank4s that have their merits, but I don't find it unfair nor overpowered. I find silly how you can negate an effect, and then choose to spin a different card in the grave; not saying it's too strong, it's just interesting, plus it has cute applications such as recycling a card of yours. It reminds me of Giant Hand, whose effect triggers when a monster effect is activated, but you get the option of choosing a different monster to negate and lock. Still, 2400 ATK feels a bit too high to me for a disruptive generic Rank4 such as this; personally I would drop it to up to 2300, since 2400 is sort of a magic number or threshold, but that's just me; 2400 should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 I saw the card earlier, and was also going to suggest to drop the ATK, but that has been already covered. I see this card as basically a single-target Dweller + slower Rhapsody in one. I wouldn't say it outclasses either, although it does get in the coverage territory (so to speak) of both. A weird combination because in a way it half-does the job of 2 different Rank4s that have their merits, but I don't find it unfair nor overpowered. I find silly how you can negate an effect, and then choose to spin a different card in the grave; not saying it's too strong, it's just interesting, plus it has cute applications such as recycling a card of yours. It reminds me of Giant Hand, whose effect triggers when a monster effect is activated, but you get the option of choosing a different monster to negate and lock. Still, 2400 ATK feels a bit too high to me for a disruptive generic Rank4 such as this; personally I would drop it to up to 2300, since 2400 is sort of a magic number or threshold, but that's just me; 2400 should be fine.I basically made this so that graveyard setup decks can be made to think , plus it can even send a used xyz to extra because in some rank 4 spam decks , sometimes you run of out xyz's quick. Glad you liked the card though :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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