[Errata] Pot of Greed

[EndUser]

 

Pot of Greed - Errata version

(Normal Spell Card)

 

Draw 2 cards. You cannot draw or add other cards from your Deck to your hand with other Spell Cards the turn you activate this card. You can only activate 1 "Pot of Greed" per turn.

 

 

 

  No Exodia overkill, no excessive (Pendulum) searches, a god good boost for Decks that need it, not preferrable for Decks that have their (already) better Spell Cards to draw/search their stuff.

 

What do you think?

[ENMaker]

I mean...it's not Pot of Greed anymore, and that's the issue I have with erratas like this. It's not necessarily bad in its own right, in fact I'd say this is fairly well done given the restrictions, but it's a different card. Should just make it a different card. You can't modify a costless +1 well because the second you add any kind of clause it's infinitely worse. In this form it's likely a card that'd be at 3 and I couldn't endorse a Pot of Greed so crippled as to reach that stage.

[Blake]

this isn't balanced at all

 

It's still a broken +1 draw, and the restrictions don't change this. Oh no, you don't Monkey/Lizard/Turtle for one turn, but your Donkey/Sorcerer/Joker still work.

 

You don't even lose spells or lose searching, you lose very little, and it's still the unfair card it was before.

[EndUser]

Enguin: I know right? It's embarassing even to think the card would be errata'd at any point, given the many limitations it should have. This was just an idea I had for a looong time, and this is one of my best versions.

 

Black: I thought of limiting the options even more, but then it would be like Igknight Reload+Mistake for 1 turn.

I don't know if there's something even better to do without ruining the card overall. (Not that it's not already, but whatever...)

 

 

Would adding the "at the start of Main Phase 1" clause help a tiny bit?

Even better, preventing Monsters on the field to search/draw.

[Blake]

or we could simply not errata classic cards

 

Just make a new card. There is genuinely no reason to do an errata like this, as it's just going to ruin the card or not do enough. "Draw 2 cards." is Pot of Greed. Leave it at that and move on.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

or we could simply not errata classic cards

 

Just make a new card. There is genuinely no reason to do an errata like this, as it's just going to ruin the card or not do enough. "Draw 2 cards." is Pot of Greed. Leave it at that and move on.

Some of us don't like having a big ass Banlist

 

Make it no adds to the hand period. Can't draw can't search nothing

[VCR_CAT]

Don't bother trying to errata Pot of Greed. It's a card that I maintain the position that cannot be errata'd so that it meets all of these criteria:

- Maintains its original design and can still be "Pot of Greed"

- Is actually good and usable

- Is balanced

 

By adding more restrictions, you drive the card further away from a position where it's usable and more into a place where it's a garbage card but hey, at least it's "balanced" now. Add more search restrictions? Well, the card is still an easy +1, and cutting off all kinds of searching might make it "balanced", but it doesn't make it usable. Okay, well how about a Special Summon restriction? Welp, you've now completely outclassed of Pot of Duality. Well, why not make it +0? Outclasses something like Trade-In and it's still a draw-2 and easily the best deck thinner in the game. Also, then it's no longer Pot of Greed.

 

Pot of Greed is broken because it offers free advantage with no required setup. It has no niche, and it's good to the point where any other drawing/searching card is outclassed by it; you have no reason to not run Pot of Greed in any deck. Pot of Greed isn't a card you can errata. It's a card you'd be able to redesign completely; but no simple set of restrictions can make this card both balanced and usable.

[EndUser]

I know guys... As I said, this was just an idea, not something I'd like to be implemented. Although, not wanting to impement this =/= make a topic about it?  :/

 

However:

or we could simply not errata classic cards

CED, DMoC, Crush Card,.. Why bother errata these?

[VCR_CAT]

I know guys... As I said, this was just an idea, not something I'd like to be implemented. Although, not wanting to impement this =/= make a topic about it?  :/

 

However:

CED, DMoC, Crush Card,.. Why bother errata these?

 

Because:

A - Konami made those erratas as it was their decision and they can re-release those cards. Us making erratas accomplishes nothing.

B - Those cards actually can be balanced by added restrictions and still remain playable.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Did anyone ever actully draw or search AFTER using PoG in the same turn in the anime? I don't recall it happening.

 

A full search restriction wouldn't make PoG broken or bad.

 

At the start of your MP1: Draw Two Cards. You cannot add card(s) from deck the turn you activate "Pot of Greed"

 

Balanced and good

People need to stop jabroniing about +1's ROTA +Daneb/Altair/Stratos is basically is a +1 anyway

[EndUser]

Because:

A - Konami made those erratas as it was their decision and they can re-release those cards. Us making erratas accomplishes nothing.

B - Those cards actually can be balanced by added restrictions and still remain playable.

Good points.

 

Did anyone ever actully draw or search AFTER using PoG in the same turn in the anime? I don't recall it happening.

 

A full search restriction wouldn't make PoG broken or bad.

 

At the start of your MP1: Draw Two Cards. You cannot add card(s) from deck the turn you activate "Pot of Greed"

 

Balanced and good

So, just like I said: A mixture of Igknight Reload+Mistake.

Would be very bad though. Almost every deck after the Syncho era need some kind of searching/drawing, and we don't really want to make a card "merely to give a dim light of hope for all the older decks".

[VCR_CAT]

Did anyone ever actully draw or search AFTER using PoG in the same turn in the anime? I don't recall it happening.

 

How many searching cards were used in DM? Hardly any, if any, if I recall correctly.

[EndUser]

How many searching cards were used in DM? Hardly any, if any, if I recall correctly.

Please sir don't spam with obvious answers.  :P

 

Also, just noticed that I wrote "god boost" instead of "good" at the OP.

[ihop]

Please don't compare the +1 you get off Deneb to the +1 you get off Pot of Greed. Pot of Greed gives you two genuinely useful cards which can then net you further advantage whereas with something like Deneb one of the cards you gain is a 1500 level 4 on the board, plus you've used your normal summon. Clean +1s such as Pot of Greed are always a recipe for disaster - see Avarice, the most broken topdeck of Wind-Up format and tbh any format.

 

Having said that, totally restricting you from searching/drawing would probably make it balanced but still sufficiently decent in non-meta slow decks - see Cardcar D for an example of a balanced 2 for 1

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

How many searching cards were used in DM? Hardly any, if any, if I recall correctly.

Exactly, the th card would help slower decks and not the faster decks as much while remaining true to its origin

 

And not even. BA for example can use it. They just can't go for Scarm. Which is honestly worth it if you can draw into TGU.

 

It's a great card like ROD, but not broken