Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon [Unconfirmed]

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Honestly, if only you can listen to yourself right now.

 

[spoiler=I slapped this together in 5 minutes]

- New banlist hasn't been updated yet

- Assume BEUD is NBEUD

 

 

 

It's honestly not hard to make a passable BEWD deck that runs the fusion cards and the BEUD necessary to make it; taking out ONE Ravine isn't the end of the world for the deck; one where the S/T line-up is already pretty strongly consistent. The way you've argued against this sounds way too strongly like you looked at a few decks off DR and assumed that said decks are 100% optimal and that there's absolutely no room for added techs or additions to make this card work and doing so is going to be bad instead of actually taking the time to build the deck and see how it played out and worked out. Frick, that build I just posted is by no means a be-all-end-all for anything and definitely has room to be improved on; but if you're going to just look at a few decklists and shut your ears to other possibilities; maybe don't.

I'm not saying you're deck is bad or anything, I'm just a little confused why you would give up the versatility of the synchro engine for the glass cannon that is the Fusion version. You no longer have an effect negateor or any of the spot removal that the Synchro variant gave. The bottom line is that the fusion variations ask you to give up too much ED and MD space for an OTK card that likely will not work. Now Dragon Mirror IS good, and so is BETBD. All I'm saying is that Neo Ultimate is bad in the current climate

[VCR_CAT]

I'm not saying you're deck is bad or anything, I'm just a little confused why you would give up the versatility of the synchro engine for the glass cannon that is the Fusion version. You no longer have an effect negateor or any of the spot removal that the Synchro variant gave. The bottom line is that the fusion variations ask you to give up too much ED and MD space for an OTK card that likely will not work. Now Dragon Mirror IS good, and so is BETBD. All I'm saying is that Neo Ultimate is bad in the current climate

 

Once again, as I said, I put that deck together in like 3 minutes and there's still PLENTY of room for finicking around with the maindeck and extradeck line-ups. Frick, there's still plenty of room in the monster area for stuff to be shifted around and other stuff to be added; and there's definitely still room in the S/T department for the same. Overall, I felt that in the choice between Moonlight and Michael; Michael was the best pick due to superior removal and stats as a tool; but that's not even to say there isn't room to slip Moonlight back in there along with him. Crystal Wing I felt simple to drop. As good as a card it is; this deck isn't absolutely needing another monsters of that kind. Beatsticks, protection, and disruption are all niches filled by cards like Felgrand, Titanic, or NBEUD. It becomes redundant when those cards become easier in general to get out.

 

As for the Extra Deck? I stand by that Xyz is the BEWD/Felgrand's greatest weapon, and I'm wondering why the heck the build you posted didn't even make room for Felgrand. The addition of the Mirrors and the Fusions is because I can easily see Neo BEUD being a 1-card blowout when dumped at the right time. It can easily and most definitely win or turn a duel around, and having a one-card play that powerful is an incredibly powerful option for a deck with inherent fragility in its plays.

 

You're way too quick to dismiss this deck because, again, you're way to quick to just look at builds on DR and jump to the conclusion that how they play it is the best way to play it. Frick, OCG Train players ran PLANET PATHFINDER AT THREE. Just because it's a tournament deck on there, doesn't mean it's the most optimal or even that great.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Once again, as I said, I put that deck together in like 3 minutes and there's still PLENTY of room for finicking around with the maindeck and extradeck line-ups. Frick, there's still plenty of room in the monster area for stuff to be shifted around and other stuff to be added; and there's definitely still room in the S/T department for the same. Overall, I felt that in the choice between Moonlight and Michael; Michael was the best pick due to superior removal and stats as a tool; but that's not even to say there isn't room to slip Moonlight back in there along with him. Crystal Wing I felt simple to drop. As good as a card it is; this deck isn't absolutely needing another monsters of that kind. Beatsticks, protection, and disruption are all niches filled by cards like Felgrand, Titanic, or NBEUD. It becomes redundant when those cards become easier in general to get out.

 

As for the Extra Deck? I stand by that Xyz is the BEWD/Felgrand's greatest weapon, and I'm wondering why the heck the build you posted didn't even make room for Felgrand. The addition of the Mirrors and the Fusions is because I can easily see Neo BEUD being a 1-card blowout when dumped at the right time. It can easily and most definitely win or turn a duel around, and having a one-card play that powerful is an incredibly powerful option for a deck with inherent fragility in its plays.

 

You're way too quick to dismiss this deck because, again, you're way to quick to just look at builds on DR and jump to the conclusion that how they play it is the best way to play it. Frick, OCG Train players ran PLANET PATHFINDER AT THREE. Just because it's a tournament deck on there, doesn't mean it's the most optimal or even that great.

Also Neo BEUD isn't out yet...that might be why they aren't playing it. You could VERY well be correct here. I'd just personally based on my playstyle, go for Rejuv's and consistency over a blow out like NBEUD

[Delibirb]

Also Neo BEUD isn't out yet...that might be why they aren't playing it. You could VERY well be correct here. I'd just personally based on my playstyle, go for Rejuv's and consistency over a blow out like NBEUD

Holy sheet.

So say you prefer your playstyle from the get go, don't literally say other playstyles are inherently worse than the one you prefer.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Holy sheet.

So say you prefer your playstyle from the get go, don't literally say other playstyles are inherently worse than the one you prefer.

Yeah, I did apologize to VCR both here and in PM for that. 

 

Based on the current Hand Trap oriented builds, I think Rejuv w/ Blue Eyes Twin is better than Neo focused builds, but I have little objective evidence to nail that point in concretely