Wahrheit Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/disney_to_georgia_governor_sign_the_anti_gay_bill_and_we_will_leave_your_state The Walt Disney Company today is speaking out against an anti-gay "religious freedom" bill Georgia lawmakers recently passed, warning Republican Governor Nathan Deal if he signs it they will leave the Peach State. "Disney and Marvel are inclusive companies, and although we have had great experiences filming in Georgia, we will plan to take our business elsewhere should any legislation allowing discriminatory practices be signed into state law," a Disney spokesperson told GLAAD. The Georgia First Amendment Defense Act, also known as FADA – like many "religious freedom" bills that have been making their way around the nation's legislatures this year – makes anti-LGBT discrimination legal by providing special protections for people who wish to claim their religious faith prohibits them from performing certain acts. The newest version of the bill "protects" taxpayer-funded faith-based organizations. Great move by Disney. Hopefully this encourages other companies to follow suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Disney with the GG moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogg-Saron Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 As a Georgian I am ashamed. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halubaris Maphotika Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 This is why I can't stand being in Georgia for more than 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 SCOTUS will spend the next 50 years fighting Jim Crow 2: Electric Boogaloo the Gay Cut That being said, shoe horning gay roles into movies for the sake of doing so like JJ Abrams hinted at for SW is some dumb sheet...cause SW/Disney etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 SCOTUS will spend the next 50 years fighting Jim Crow 2: Electric Boogaloo the Gay Cut That being said, shoe horning gay roles into movies for the sake of doing so like JJ Abrams hinted at for SW is some dumb sheet...cause SW/Disney etcWhy do you say shoe horning? I mean. Being gay or straight or otherwise is just part of what a person is. Any character could be gay or not, the only determining factor is what gets shown. So I'm curious where the shoe horning comes in. Cause I'd figure if it's fine to have canonically straight relationships/characters it's equally as fine to have a gay one.I don't wanna jump the gun though so please explain what you mean so there's no misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halubaris Maphotika Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Why do you say shoe horning? I mean. Being gay or straight or otherwise is just part of what a person is. Any character could be gay or not, the only determining factor is what gets shown. So I'm curious where the shoe horning comes in. Cause I'd figure if it's fine to have canonically straight relationships/characters it's equally as fine to have a gay one.I don't wanna jump the gun though so please explain what you mean so there's no misunderstanding.When a character's sexuality is expressed in an obvious way as if to deliberately point out that they are that sexuality with no relevance to the story at hand, it can be seen as shoe horning a character for the sake of getting "Diversity Points" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 When a character's sexuality is expressed in an obvious way as if to deliberately point out that they are that sexuality with no relevance to the story at hand, it can be seen as shoe horning a character for the sake of getting "Diversity Points"This, making Finn and Poe gay just for the diversity points is ridiculous And character can be any race too based on quantum propobility. Why not? Have two white peeps have a black kid! Diversity!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 When a character's sexuality is expressed in an obvious way as if to deliberately point out that they are that sexuality with no relevance to the story at hand, it can be seen as shoe horning a character for the sake of getting "Diversity Points"Isn't that the majority of romantic subplots, regardless of gender? This, making Finn and Poe gay just for the diversity points is ridiculous And character can be any race too based on quantum propobility. Why not? Have two white peeps have a black kid! Diversity!!Why would you make the characters gay then? What's your not ridiculous reason for them to be gay?If the answer is "if it's relevant to the plot" then that's wrong. Because not every aspect of a character needs to be there just to affect the plot. But this is off topic I suppose. Sorry y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halubaris Maphotika Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Isn't that the majority of romantic subplots, regardless of gender? Why would you make the characters gay then? What's your not ridiculous reason for them to be gay?If the answer is "if it's relevant to the plot" then that's wrong. Because not every aspect of a character needs to be there just to affect the plot. But this is off topic I suppose. Sorry y'all.It depends on the subjective opinion of the viewer. To some it can feel forced and contrived, to others it is just fine. Everything about Entertainment will always be Subjective no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Isn't that the majority of romantic subplots, regardless of gender? Why would you make the characters gay then? What's your not ridiculous reason for them to be gay?If the answer is "if it's relevant to the plot" then that's wrong. ecause not every aspect of a character needs to be there just to affect the plot. But this is off topic I suppose. Sorry y'all.I guess we disagree there then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 I guess we disagree there thenSo Finn shouldn't be black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 So Finn shouldn't be black?Finn shouldn't be gay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Finn shouldn't be gayI mean, Finn being black doesn't affect the plot either, so that would mean you are holding a double standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 I mean, Finn being black doesn't affect the plot either, so that would mean you are holding a double standard.That's some class ignorance right there. Jango clones rebelled on Kamino so the Emperor had the Stormtroopers varied genetically and recruited rather than be made He didn't have to be black, but he had to be some kinda non Caucasian to highlight that fact Him being gay is just stupid pandering and a perfect reason to not watch 8-9 if it comes out that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 He didn't have to be black, but he had to be some kinda non Caucasian to highlight that factThem "needing" to highlight that is about as important as "needing" to highlight the fact that gay people exist. John Boyega was cast as a statement about diversity (as well as for his acting skill, of course). Having his character be gay is no different. No, it doesn't need to happen, but it isn't a bad thing if it does. If you choose not to see the other two because of this, things like OP show that Disney gives zero fucks about your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Them "needing" to highlight that is about as important as "needing" to highlight the fact that gay people exist.John Boyega was cast as a statement about diversity (as well as for his acting skill, of course). Having his character be gay is no different.No, it doesn't need to happen, but it isn't a bad thing if it does.If you choose not to see the other two because of this, things like OP show that Disney gives zero fucks about your money.There's no logical basis for him being gay. Him being a different race there is. Sure, Disney doesn't need my money, but it'll add up if they piss off enough people with this diversity for diversity's sake sheet New flash: people don't warm up to an idea if you shove it down their throats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Just because there's no good reason for them to be gay doesn't mean they shouldn't. I don't know much about Star Wars but I assume before this the proportion of gay Star Wars characters, or at least gay lead characters was not very high. If anything it'd be more conspicuous not to have one of the lead characters be gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Just because there's no good reason for them to be gay doesn't mean they shouldn't. I don't know much about Star Wars but I assume before this the proportion of gay Star Wars characters, or at least gay lead characters was not very high. If anything it'd be more conspicuous not to have one of the lead characters be gay.See this quota sheet is really really stupid. There's a need for equal treatment not special treatment...and hell that should be more for hiring gay actors not making roles gay for no good reason other than it's "conspicuous" not to have a few thrown in there There was a reason lore wise for Finn to not be white, there is no funking reason for Finn to be gay As for Georgia, it's all fair. If Georgia's people are uncomfortable with Homosexuality, so be it. That should be their right just as Disney as a business has a right to decide where to conduct it's business People really need to stop shoving their views down other's throat and expect the latter to happily swallow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/disney_to_georgia_governor_sign_the_anti_gay_bill_and_we_will_leave_your_state Great move by Disney. Hopefully this encourages other companies to follow suit.Guessing a less sensational title wasn't possible? Neither party is wrong here. Neither party did anything great here. If the people of Georgia want a bill signed that should be done. If Disney wants to not conduct business in Georgia, that too should be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 So, in the star Wars universe, it is possible for Finn to be black, because storm troopers aren't clones. Now, the fact that storm troopers aren't clones doesn't mean he has to be black, but it makes it possible. The fact that gay people exist in the Star Wars universe makes it possible for him to be gay, and since neither thing needed to be there, there is just as much justification for either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 So, in the star Wars universe, it is possible for Finn to be black, because storm troopers aren't clones. Now, the fact that storm troopers aren't clones doesn't mean he has to be black, but it makes it possible. The fact that gay people exist in the Star Wars universe makes it possible for him to be gay, and since neither thing needed to be there, there is just as much justification for either.Do gay people exist in the SW universe? We don't the know the full biological background in the SW Universe. It's perfectly possible that you CAN'T be gay. What we do know from lose is that Storm-troopers of different complexions and species were recruited. Nothing more, nothing less. Having a Black actor, and a good one at that, just did a good job of highlighting that fact. But sure, you could have hired an Asian or Mexican and it would have been all the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Ok, so... this just shows it is possible. Y'know, that is how canon works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Ok, so... this just shows it is possible. Y'know, that is how canon works.Why though? Him being gay adds nothing to the story except appease some fringe movements on the left? If you want to support LGB in acting, hire more gay actors to play roles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Why though? Him being gay adds nothing to the story except appease some fringe movements on the left? If you want to support LGB in acting, hire more gay actors to play roles...Him being black added just as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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