Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings Questions

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

I guess I'll pop the question cause it's going to nag me to death and I don't want to go on DN thinking I can do something that can't be done.

 

Alright. For "Hysteric Party", In regards to the Discard part. Can that be applied multiple times during a turn assuming I have the proper targets in the grave beforehand? Or does the Discard part activate upon flipping it face up?

[evilfusion]

I guess I'll pop the question cause it's going to nag me to death and I don't want to go on DN thinking I can do something that can't be done.

 

Alright. For "Hysteric Party", In regards to the Discard part. Can that be applied multiple times during a turn assuming I have the proper targets in the grave beforehand? Or does the Discard part activate upon flipping it face up?

 

The latter. Discarding is a cost for the initial activation, and you SS monsters at resolution. You may not use the effect to SS again, even if it continues to be faceup. It's the same idea as Call of the Haunted.

 

Unless a Continuous Trap states you may use the effect multiple times (such as saying "Once per turn" or something), it's a single use effect that bonds the card and monster(s).

[Agro]

If a monster equipped to Inzektor Exa-Beetle has the line "this card cannot be targeted by opponent's card effects" in its name, can it still be MST'd?

 

I'm more questioning if there are any monster effects that apply while being treated as equip spell cards.

[Miror B]

If a monster equipped to Inzektor Exa-Beetle has the line "this card cannot be targeted by opponent's card effects" in its name, can it still be MST'd?

 

I'm more questioning if there are any monster effects that apply while being treated as equip spell cards.

Monsters have no effects while in the spell and trap zone unless they specifically say so. So no.

[Alpakha]

IS Harpy lady 1's effect permanent? I'm guessing the ATK is permanent, but I want to make sure.

[~British Soul~]

IS Harpy lady 1's effect permanent? I'm guessing the ATK is permanent, but I want to make sure.

If it doesn't say "End Phase" in the effect then YES it is permanent.

[Zazubat]

If it doesn't say "End Phase" in the effect then YES it is permanent.

the card has not been updated for a long time, I doubt that was Konami's intention. Typicly they say (permenent) or something alike. Unless we get a confirm from Konami, I don't think it is so.

[X-Metaman]

IS Harpy lady 1's effect permanent? I'm guessing the ATK is permanent, but I want to make sure.

 

If by permanent you mean continous,then yes. The "All WIND monsters gain 300 ATK" effect is applied as long as the card is face-up on the field.

[Zazubat]

If by permanent you mean continous,then yes. The "All WIND monsters gain 300 ATK" effect is applied as long as the card is face-up on the field.

that's not permanent... there are some cards that will still have increased ATK/DEF even if they leave the field such as Light End Dragon. Of course it's a continous effect because Konami never thought of permanent ATK/DEF changes, but they also didn't think to write "as long as this card is face-up on the field" or something like that.

[X-Metaman]

Continous effects don't need to say "as long as this card is face-up on the field". Check the four Fire Formation cards from Cosmo Blazer,Ojama Knight,Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo,jinzo,etc...

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

The fact that it is not an activated effect should also tell you that it's not permanent. If it were an activated effect, with its text, it would be able to infinitely increase the ATK of everything.

[evilfusion]

Harpie Lady 1 only boosts ATK as long as it is faceup. It's a Continuous Effect and will cease to apply when it leaves the Field or is flipped facedown.

 

Light End Dragon and Giga-Brilliant operate differently, in that they actually have to activate an effect. Harpie Lady 1 is just a Continuous Effect.

[newhat]

Can I use the Normal Summon granted by Firedance - Tensu even if I haven't used my regular Normal Summon or Set?

[darkwolf777]

Can I use the Normal Summon granted by Firedance - Tensu even if I haven't used my regular Normal Summon or Set?

 

You can always use your additional Normal Summons before your given Normal Summon; just make sure to declare which you are using.

[Zazubat]

Why would you think you couldn't? Of course you can.

[ihop]

When would it ever make a difference anyway?

[Miror B]

When would it ever make a difference anyway?

I have a Beast Warrior that searches something not beast-warrior and I want to summon both?

You never know.

[ihop]

I have a Beast Warrior that searches something not beast-warrior and I want to summon both?

You never know.

 

Oh, fair enough.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Or if your opponent might MST you when you summon your first monster.

[Zazubat]

Alright, since YCM was down the last two days I was on DN, and ran across these problems. There's a lot so take it away copy paste:

 

If I summon harpie 1, while I have hunting ground/something else that increases ATK, can my opponent activate bottomless trap hole, or does it have to be it's original ATK?

 

Also, would hunting ground get to activate if my monster was banished? I think it wouldn't since it works the same as Solemn, but I'm not sure :/

 

So Assault of the Fire Kings negates effects, but where? I would guess everywhere since it doesn't say "while face-up on the field", but only "until the end phase".

 

Also My opponent summoned Fire King High Avatar Garunix (really that's it's name?) and it says that it Special Summons itself if it was destroyed, but since it was negated, it "would never know" that it had been destroyed that turn right? Or is that not how it works?

 

Does activating Maxx "C" when my opponent Summons his monster activate it's effect? I would guess no, because the monster has not been succesfully summoned, because Maxx "C" started a chain.

 

Does the effect of Nimble Manta activate when you destroy Call of the Haunted?

 

If MST chain's to Hysteric Sign, will I get my effects? I read up on Chains (once again) and it seems like it would since it activates and starts a Chain Link 1, because of it's Trigger-like effect am I right?

[SynchroTuner]

Your opponent can BTH. Original Atk is NOT taken in consideration Its atk on the field after applying all other additions/subtractions is.

Yes, Harpie's Hunting Ground will activate.

 

Not sure of this one, but I think it would be only while on the field.

 

No, you would not get Maxx C's effect. It depends. If the summon is an inherent one like DAD or BLS, then you would not. But, if it as an effect, you can chain Maxx C to it before it is summoned and get the effect, like Abyssmegalo, CotH, Monster Reborn, etc.

 

Yes, you would get Nimble Manta's effect.

 

I think you mean MST. If yes, I think you would be able to add the card to your hand, and not sure, but I think would get the effect in the EP as well.

[Zazubat]

Your opponent can BTH. Original Atk is NOT taken in consideration Its atk on the field after applying all other additions/subtractions is.

Yes, Harpie's Hunting Ground will activate.

 

Not sure of this one, but I think it would be only while on the field.

 

No, you would not get Maxx C's effect. It depends. If the summon is an inherent one like DAD or BLS, then you would not. But, if it as an effect, you can chain Maxx C to it before it is summoned and get the effect, like Abyssmegalo, CotH, Monster Reborn, etc.

 

Yes, you would get Nimble Manta's effect.

 

I think you mean MST. If yes, I think you would be able to add the card to your hand, and not sure, but I think would get the effect in the EP as well.

yes I mean MST it was a typo.

 

EDIT: Also, what does EP mean?

[evilfusion]

Alright, since YCM was down the last two days I was on DN, and ran across these problems. There's a lot so take it away copy paste:

 

If I summon harpie 1, while I have hunting ground/something else that increases ATK, can my opponent activate bottomless trap hole, or does it have to be it's original ATK?

 

Also, would hunting ground get to activate if my monster was banished? I think it wouldn't since it works the same as Solemn, but I'm not sure :/

 

So Assault of the Fire Kings negates effects, but where? I would guess everywhere since it doesn't say "while face-up on the field", but only "until the end phase".

 

Also My opponent summoned Fire King High Avatar Garunix (really that's it's name?) and it says that it Special Summons itself if it was destroyed, but since it was negated, it "would never know" that it had been destroyed that turn right? Or is that not how it works?

 

Does activating Maxx "C" when my opponent Summons his monster activate it's effect? I would guess no, because the monster has not been succesfully summoned, because Maxx "C" started a chain.

 

Does the effect of Nimble Manta activate when you destroy Call of the Haunted?

 

If MST chain's to Hysteric Sign, will I get my effects? I read up on Chains (once again) and it seems like it would since it activates and starts a Chain Link 1, because of it's Trigger-like effect am I right?

 

1) Bottomless checks the ATK at the timing the monster is successfully Summoned. Since Harpie Lady 1's effect to boost ATK is Continuous, its boost is applied from the moment it successfully touches the Field, rendering its ATK 1600, a valid timing for Bottomless. The same sort of rule applies with Field Spells/etc modifying stats.

 

2) Yes. Hunting Ground operates the same as a Trigger Effect. When the Harpie is successfully Summoned (meaning, no Warning or whatever), Ground will activate as Chain Link 1 and target an S/T. Cards may chain to the activation of the effect (or to the successful Summon, like Torrential). It does NOT work the same as Solemn. Solemn negates the Summon. Bottomless banishes a successfully Summoned monster.

 

3) When a card Summons a monster with the effects negated, it only negates effects that activate or apply on the Field (Junk Synchron, Tour Guide, etc, etc, etc). The monster leaving the Field or being flipped facedown will remove the negation. Fire King's Ring will only negate "on-Field" effects.

 

4) That's not how it works. Monsters with their effects negated still note when their Triggers are fulfilled. Being negated does not mean "disregard my text entirely". If Garunix, negated or otherwise, is destroyed by a card effect, it will still attempt to activate. If it's negated or prevented from activating while in the Graveyard, it will not be SSed, but otherwise, it can be.

 

5) You may not use Maxx C against an inherent Summon (such as Cyber Dragon, or a Synchro/Xyz Summon) because that action does not start a chain. In order to draw from Maxx C, it must have resolved BEFORE the Special Summon takes place. You may chain it to a card effect's activation that would Special Summon, like Monster Reborn, and will draw then.

 

6) Yes.

 

7) Based on wording, yes, you will get both effects. The first effect to add Elegant Egotist is not related to Sign being Continuous and therefore, chaining MST to Sign will not prevent the resolution. And Sign will not miss the timing on the "add 3 Harpies" effect because it activates during the End Phase, not at the time it was destroyed. It did not have to have resolved in order for the End Phase effect to apply (it can be destroyed while facedown, or even from the hand, so long as the method was "Destroying").

 

EP = End Phase.

[darkwolf777]

The first effect to add Elegant Egotist is not related to Sign being Continuous and therefore, chaining MST to Sign will not prevent the resolution.

 

This would be incorrect. Hysteric Sign is a Continuous Spell Card. You will not get the effect to add Elegant Egotist if Hysteric Sign is not face-up on the field during its resolution. This applies to all Continuous Trap/Spell and Field Spell Cards, regardless if the effect itself is Continuous in nature or not. If it is not face-up on the field at resolution, you get nothing.

 

I believe that's the purpose of all these Continuous Spell/Trap cards of late (starting with the recent Fire Dance ones) is to combine various search and other effects while also getting a useful continuous effect out of it, but also making it so these searches are a lot easier to stop by destroying the Continuous Spell/Trap before it can resolve.

[Zazubat]

Though you get it through activating the "CARD" not the "EFFECT" which I have read is a different thing, so wouldn't it make sense what Evil said?