Monarch King Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 DARKMachine/EffectLevel 5ATK 1900, DEF, 1700 You can tribute 1 face-up "Cyber-Stein" you control; Special Summon this card (from your hand). You can pay Life Points so that you only have 100 left; Special Summon 1 monster from your Extra Deck, then if the monster Special Summoned this way was an Xyz Monster, you can attach this card to that monster as an Xyz Material. You can only use this effect of "Mega Cyber-Stein" once per turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 So...2-card combo into Exterio and Last Warrior? uh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 No, stein can be dead. This card can never be dead. That's not good design. Give it like a 3k cost :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Dolphin, I hope you read the Advanced Clause because reply breaks the minimum requirements. You did give an actual way to abuse this card, but can you elaborate on it (or any suggested fixes if the card can be salvaged)? Same with you Winter, though I agree that this thing is bad design and it really needs a hard cost. ----Anyway, Stein is still banned in TCG so really don't know how you're even running this card unless it's in Traditional. Oh wait, that's just for its Special Summon condition, though OCG doesn't care about that. But like Winter mentioned, you need a set LP cost for this card; original Stein requires 5K LP and it got banned on this end for just summoning Fusions; what makes you think that a version that Special Summons any monster from the ED for an arguably lower cost [see Solemn Judgment] can get off that easily. Make it require a set cost and definitely a hard OPT on it. But really, this just oozes bad design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Sorry about that, I was just doing a kneejerk left reaction. As a more complex response, it's a really bad design in terms of metagame impact and potency. The chances of opening Stein and this is 10%, which is pretty good relative to other blowout 2-card combos. The interactions between this and the available ED targets reeks of lockdown, since Exterio + Last Warrior essentially prevents the opponent from making any play. Paying a substantial amount of LP is insignificant as you should already be in a position to win at this point. Metalfoes can summon multiples of this and it's NOT EVEN OPT, let alone HARD OPT, making it extremely abusable. The card tightens ED design as this card will only becomes better and better as more and more good ED cards are made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarch King Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I changed the pay cost so that you only have 100 LP left and OPT of course. Any other suggestions welcomed. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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