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Guest JoshIcy

This thread may or may not be locked but fact remains I'd love to see the opinion of members thoughts on this.

 

I have noticed for awhile that alot of members, (particularly newbies[not n00bs]) have been abrupt and their ratings. They correct without first consent and usually simply rate on that and that alone totally ignoring creativity. I'm not saying that Uniqueness is at a standstill, though I do see it rather high these days. But to just rate and correct OCG without consent? Ignoring the rest of the card....

 

Your thoughts?

 

Okay WTF...you people are going way off the matter at hand, all this talk about n00bz has nothing to do with what Icy is expressing, he is expressing that people, and yes I mean the majority of you children talk solely about OCG and nothing else, while OCG makes up a major factor in card making, so do the effect ideas and balanaceness and all that lovely good stuff, so think before you post and actually talk about more than just the first thing that comes to your childish mind.

 

I know I'm talking in some kind of old man context but it is simply to put the point across, if anyone was offended forgive me, but if you were offended by my above paragraph then obviously can't understand the principle of it all.

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Guest JoshIcy

yeah lulz, its really getting me peeved lately... which is why in my last card i had a personal disclaimer about this....

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I swear it's like the Hawaiians think exactly the same. XD

 

We had the bad OCG comment on us, and some people just rate without any consent. I totally agree with you there. New people need to look at the cards better instead of just posting. And I've also noticed newbs rate bad cards higher than good cards if the bad card was made by a person that is also new.

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I swear it's like the Hawaiians think exactly the same. XD

 

We had the bad OCG comment on us' date=' and some people just rate without any consent. I totally agree with you there. New people need to look at the cards better instead of just posting. And I've also noticed newbs rate bad cards higher than good cards if the bad card was made by a person that is also new.[/size']

 

Lol all hawaiians think alike XD one way or another....

 

But back on topic. The nicer rates are just beginners respect and thats ok. but good point no less lol ^_^

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of course im right ;) jk jk... :shock:

 

But its more on that they just correct on OCG and rate that alone... not the rest of the card. I personally see the OCG simply as a way to understand the card, not what the card is... The effect is what makes a card... not the OCG...

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For correcting OCG, the only time I ever do that is to help out the person posting the card - I even say so! =D And I'll still comment on what I think about the card. Icyblue should know that about me =p

 

But yea, it's kinda rude for people to just attack the card's OCG and not actually care about the card as a whole.

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Just rude? Ya think. I think this should stay or even be a sticky because new people must ask before "Correcting" yeah these ""(meaning whatever) why don't they ask? I'll tell you because of the rep thingy. Yeah beware that we won't give your a "Good" rep but a "Negative " one so you better ask newbie before you post. And it's not rude it's humiliating why should they correct it in front of everyone why not by PM, you won't get a good reputation because you'll be called a rude person(I'm still talking about the newbie). Well if you see it from my point you will realize that your not just being bad with the person that made the card but with most of the people because they will just ignore you and won't be loved this way.

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I feel personally attacked by this thread. I'm going to spam it. :P

 

I think people should comment on OCG, and no rules should be adopted against that. When a card is uploaded to be commented on, the author should be able to deal with all kinds of criticism. If somebody takes time to at least try and correct the lore, that means they gave the card some attention. I agree that dismissing the card altogether after OCG correction is wrong, but so is "6/10 Overpowered" and "8/10 OCG errors" and nobody really does anything about those either.

 

I think a card deserves to be commented on its effect, originality and playability, but the OCG is also a part of the card and people should be allowed to suggest corrections if they think there are mistakes. Asking for "permission" to rate OCG is completely against the point of "Realistic Cards". You don't upload a card if you're not willing to have people pointing out mistakes they feel could be corrected to improve the card's quality.

 

Just my opinion. ;)

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lol i mean strictly based on the OCG and you arent attacked :D i just found it rude when people do rates just on that. As for OCG thats just the language as English is the main language as this forum is.

 

As for rules. No lol, its just general respect similar to its good to ask before doing something with someones belongings.

 

For Criticism? Same as above, its just the language and if someone wants to be corrected then by all means. Otherwise translate it yourself and rate it on the effect... The thing is, why correct something that someone believes they are doing correctly? Even if they arent be polite regardless of where you even if is the internet, care and ask first.

 

A very valid opinion btw....

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Oh. So if I decide to go on a rating spree of "card sux, 0/10 n00b", the author shouldn't care either because I'm insulting pixels and definitely not damaging his life, is that it? From that perspective, I can post just about anything I want in the Realistic section as far is it isn't porn.

 

People care, DJ. That's why they post cards in the first place, and why you moderate a card making forum.

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Just rude? Ya think. I think this should stay or even be a sticky because new people must ask before "Correcting" yeah these ""(meaning whatever) why don't they ask? I'll tell you because of the rep thingy. Yeah beware that we won't give your a "Good" rep but a "Negative " one so you better ask newbie before you post. And it's not rude it's humiliating why should they correct it in front of everyone why not by PM' date=' you won't get a good reputation because you'll be called a rude person(I'm still talking about the newbie). Well if you see it from my point you will realize that your not just being bad with the person that made the card but with most of the people because they will just ignore you and won't be loved this way.

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I feel that I am attacked by your post (Although, I am doing this in the Written Cards Section, not the Realistic Cards Section) . Why do I correct the OCG? It's mainly because there would be many conflicts with a card's effect if the OCG is unclear. For example, a card has this errata:

 

"This card can attack all of your opponent's monsters."

 

At first, there seems to be no conflict with the rulings, but since Yu-Gi-Oh card errata became too literal (best example I know is the case of "Obsidian Dragon" and "Cyber Phoenix"), some players (especially the noobs) would reason that the monster can attack the opponent directly, although it is clear enough to the professionals that it is not possible.

 

Second, the reason why the OCG is fixed first is that every player would comprehend with the rulings of that particular card. If the conflict with such rulings would be removed, then it would be easier to assess whether a certain card is overpowered. Who would assess a card which has errata that is too incomprehensible?

 

I admit that I am not expert in criticizing card effects. Also, as much as possible I do not want my post to be like "This card is good." sort of thing.

 

Finally for those who think that I am doing these for reps, I don't care about reps.

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Nobody here is saying you shouldn't correct OCG, we are saying we'd at least like you to comment on the image, name, the effect in general and so forth, judging a rating solely on the fact someone's OCG is terrible is stupid, you are dismissing the effort they put into the idea of the effect in question as well as the other parts of the card, and I'm not hawaiian but I agree with Icy on this and if you think we are wrong then please reread this topic first before judging.

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But I just dislike it when noobs expect such a good rating when their card(s) totally suck. It gets me furious when they pm me saying that they deserved a better ranking. I try to be nice by giving 2/10's or maybe even 4/10's to them, but quite frankly, not many members who make cards deserve higher rankings like 9/10's for card(s) that aren't really good. So the next time you see me give out nice 3/10's or 6.4/10's to cards while I give a logical explanation to make their card(s) some what adequate, don't come crying to me when you get what you deserve. (I'm not talking to the good members that make some decent cards)

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To be honest with you all I feel my cards are very overated at times. The other day I made a Underpowered card on Purpose and still got 8,s and 9's Sure I love it when people actually give REASONS as to why I deserve such a high score.

 

Lately i've been feeling like some of the members have been Babying me to an extent. Almost as if they are orried that 1 word out of place would force me to leave. That's why i've slowed down a little on Realistic and am focusing on Pokevolution. the set I truly love

 

btw 2000th Post. I is proud *blushes*

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Because even when I make a sucky card a good 70% Of the Ratings are "VERY NICE! 9/10" It bugs me. I want more honesty. Also like I said I feel like at times that people overate me. Is it because of my Status here? I think so....

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I agree with you icy. I've also noticed that newbs are giving out 10/10's for cards that dont deserve it. Maybe they should actually examine the card, instead of just saying "its a dragon. I like dragons. I think i'll give this a 10/10" or something like that.

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