Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted July 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 I could drop Norleras but it gets use with Phantom of Chaos and another way to pull off the Yata-Lock. Lyla is very good for Spell and Trap destruction and I doubt it will get limited. Its pretty much a LIGHT attribute Breaker that can use its effect more than once. The best option to fit Envoy of the Beginning in here would be to drop Norleras as I wouldnt lose any Monsters for Trade-In and I wont have more dead draws. Treeborn Frog is excellent for this deck as it will pretty much always guarantee field presence. Dasher is good for swarming and can bring Dark Magician of Chaos out with no tribute. I might work on building a Chaos control deck next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyteboy_07 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 see wat can happen wen two good duelists put their heads together? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted July 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Pretty much no deck can beat this one. The only real competition for this deck is Lightsworn because of Judgment Dragon's powerful effect and very unstrict summoning conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyteboy_07 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 well, there actually is another way to beat this deck... a full on out of play deck could almost desimate it, cus u wouldnt have a graveyard basically... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted July 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 It would have to be fast enough. You would pretty much have to draw Dimensional Fissure on your first turn. Thats why Lyla is in here. Spell and Trap destruction that I have a good chance at drawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 WTH is the 3x Dasher's for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted July 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Field presence and for Destiny Draw engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted July 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 BUMP. Im adding Mirror Force as well as a chainable Trap. When this deck battles against Dark Armed Dragon, I find that I need some defense that isnt a Monster. Hand Destruction is also getting dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaliber Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy Of The End HAS to be possibly the best card ever made for Anti-Slifer players. Good Deck, 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted July 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Read the title and try again. FIXES ONLY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyteboy_07 Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 i found sumthin real helpful... if u could take out 1 sky scourge, then you could add a very powerful level 4 monster.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I dont feel adding a Level 4 beatstick would be a good idea. I still havent built a Side Deck so thats probably where it could go if I decide to do so. Anyway, Dasher, Trade-In, Allure, Graceful Charity, etc. deal with clogged hands rather easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyteboy_07 Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 yea u got a point there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest setojim Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 nice hmmmm what if lyla mills yata? then what do you do? anywho, i say -2 lyla, +1 breaker, and +1 feather of the phoenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Yeah. I dont think removing Lyla would be a good idea. It would limit my LIGHT monster line-up even more than what it already is. I might just add A Feather of a Phoenix without removing anything. It has enough draw power to safely run 41 cards instead of 40 anyway. Thanks setojim for bringing that to my attention. Yata is hardly milled out but I think the addition of A Feather of a Phoenix would be a good idea in case of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Some of the cards you play have no impact on your goal like threatning roar (it looked so random on the list) I thought about it and I'd play something more like this : 201 ced1 dmoc2 jd3 norleras3 plasma1 dasher1 ddwl1 sangan1 witch1 crow2 poc1 disk1 mof1 yata 211 pog1 gc1 confisc1 forceful sentry2 allure3 trade in3 d draw3 upstart goblin1 storm1 feather duster1 painful choice1 a feather of the phoenix1 reborn1 premature burial For now I don't see what to cut to make this 40, you should be able to figure out what when playing it. Also, I don't know what has been fixed because your list is on the first page but i can explain some of the choices I made. judgement dragon : light, lv8 for trade in and poc can copy him plasma : the best d hero works with all your draw spells dd warrior lady and dd crow : get rid of opposing sinister serpent and frog for your lock magician of faith : if you don't pull of the lock in 1 turn you better have faith confiscation and forceful sentry : to get rid of opposing crow with sentry you can also get frog or sinister serpent upstart goblin : for speed and who cares about life point when you are yata locked a feather of the phoenix : for the norleras combo and just in case something happen to yata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 I'll test it and modify the deck accordingly. Out of everyone who posted on this thread, you, setojim and Abstract probably gave the best fixes. I suppose with only CED in here, I think 4 LIGHT monsters may be enough. I definately wouldnt wanna go less than that as I would have to rely on Phantom of Chaos to get the Yata-lock. The problem with using Phantom of Chaos is that it uses up a Normal Summon which I need to summon Yata. That's actually why I initially maxed Dasher. Fear Monger was mainly in here for more Disk Commander abuse. Anyway, I'll test the build you provided. I'm testing it against Dark Armed Dragon and Lightsworn so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Ok I see your problem with the summon of poc maybe then take out a plasma for a 2nd dasher from the list i provided. Also, I'd like to see that lightsworn deck your testing against I've never been able to build something good whit them the traditional format format. (just pm me the list or make a topic for the deck in this section if you want the others to see it) For the roars side some they are awesome vs otks it's just that they don't have their place in the main deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 I'm testing it against an Advanced Format Lightsworn deck. Judgment Dragon's brokeness makes it a big threat. Here it is (I posted it here so I dont flood the Traditional Forum with my decks): Monsters: 21 3x Judgment Dragon3x Celestia, Lightsworn Angel2x Ehren, Lightsworn Monk3x Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress3x Wulf, Lightsworn Beast3x Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner3x Garoth, Lightsworn Warrior1x Jain, Lightsworn Paladin Spells: 14 3x Solar Recharge2x Reinforcement of the Army2x Foolish Burial2x Monster Reincarnation1x Monster Reborn1x Premature Burial1x Brain Control1x Heavy Storm1x Mystical Space Typhoon Traps: 6 3x Beckoning Light3x Threatening Roar It is able to beat Dark Armed Dragon decks. Beckoning Light is there to recover Judgment Dragons that get decked out as a result of other Lightsworns. It is also very easy to summon. In Traditional, Painful Choice would maybe replace a Foolish Burial, Change of Heart would replace Brain Control. Those are a few changes I can think of at the moment. Staple monsters, well, I dont think help Judgment Dragon too much. Roars are good for stopping attacks that could ruin your win condition (Judgment Dragon). I might drop one for a Torrential Tribute as it can help with field destruction while I get Lightsworns in the Graveyard for Judgment Dragon's summoning. This is a deck I'm actually working towards in Advanced Format. Getting the rarest cards (like Judgment Dragon) is the hardest part to finishing it. I still need 2 more. A problem with Lightsworns is that Macro Monarch decks can really mess this deck up which is another deck I'm working on. It is more complete and I'm only about 9 or 10 cards away from perfecting it. For the roars side some they are awesome vs otksThey are also awesome against Gladiator Beasts. It stops them from getting their tag-out effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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