Un-Justly Prosecution?

[Bloodrun]

Fair members of YCM, I am speaking to you in a clear, but sturn fashion. It seems, that two, of your fellow members, myself, and Yankeefan, have been unJustly prosecuted.

Now let me explain.

Myself and Yankeefan, took part in donating points, back and forth. The intention was to Receive a spot, on the donating board.

 

This, was suggested to be point scamming. This is not true. In order for it to be point scamming, I would have had to keep the points, and not give it back.

 

This action, brought Dj, to deny us, myself and Yankeefan, the right to our points. Costing Yankee, the lost of 19,800+ points, and myself, only 12+.

I am here to give this arguement, in the hopes, to get your opinion. Yay, or Nay. In the rest of this thread, I will attempt to get your vote, with argument, presenting all evidence there is to give. presenting all truth, and nothing but the truth.

 

[spoiler=Exhibit A: The Defendant's Statement]

I, Bloodrun, officially request that the points of Yankeefan, all 19,800+, be returned to him, on the following basis.

 

One) there are no set rules, comments, suggests, warnings, text, video, or law suits, that say, or oppose the actions that

me and Yankeefan took part in.

 

two) there was no warning prior to the removal of the points, nor afterward.

 

three) Dj, as well did the same thing, twice, to be exact, but i am only calling upon the recent action of his, to be taken into consideration.

 

four) given this unfair punishment, without the actions said in comments 1-2, is unjust, and a complete abuse of your powers, especially! and i repeat, especially! since there was no set warning, prior to the removal of the points.

 

I hereby admit to these actions, yes i did them. I hereby openly say, and agree, that the actions will not be done again, in such a manner as before. and, I hehereby request that the points of Yankeefan, be officially returned to him.

 

And I openly request that the Super Moderator of the Custom Cards section, Dj Osiris, be given a discussion, about his actions, in handling this situation. as they were rushed, and unfit to be issued.

 

 

 

Your Super Mods response to this was:

"Is there not a rule, that says i cannot punish them for this action?"

 

Now, I ask you, is that a way for a Moderator, Super Moderator non the less, of YCM, to act and respond in such a form? A moderators responsibiity, is to look through all the information given, in order to provide a just! prosecution, in which there was not a just! prosecution issued.

Dj, would have, how ever, been in the right, to take our points away, if he had so, given us a warning first. there was no warning given to myself, nor Yankeefan, before this action watook place.

 

 

In, fact, the only communication Dj had, with any of us, before this punishment was given, was this PM, between myself and him.

 

 

 

thats so not fair

you edited that! -.-"

 

 

And?

 

You cannot talk' date=' you cheated the system.

 

;)

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Now, in my final hopes of getting your opinion, I say this.

My fellow, members, pals of sorts, friends of others, and acquaintances, of the rest. I whole heartedly say publicly, that i did not break any rules, I did however, lead Yankeefan to commit to this. and it wa me whom let a friend, get this punishment.

So I ask, of your true opinion, and i come forth and say, that i will publicly ask for my ban, to have Yankeefans points, re-instated, to its fullest, and any what so ever "record" he had, wiped clean.

 

Thank you for your time.

[JesusofChaos™]

We have already decided that and we all agree that you have been suitably punished, this can now be locked to stop unnescarry arguments

[Brushfire]

We've discussed the idioticness of this on MSN, already, so you know my opinion =/

 

But I agree, Dj following the unwritten rule of "you may not donate points to another person and they donate back and forth to become top donater" is pathetic, and unjustified.

[Willieh]

Actually, I'm going to have to say that it's just. In the rules it pretty much says that the rules are but are not limited to.

 

It states that the actions taken are up to the moderator.

 

Sorry but technically this is a fair punishment. :\

 

Not that I don't agree that it's kind of crappy.

[Bloodrun]

There is nothing in the rules, that suggest or even hint to donating, this is just, at all, not one little bit!

[Willieh]

It is impossible and impractical to list every rule possible.

 

:|

[Guest]

We have already decided that and we all agree that you have been suitably punished' date=' this can now be locked to stop unnescarry arguments

[/quote']

Hah, you call yours and Dj's mockery of a defense to mean that the issue has been "decided"? I think not.

[Mr. Best Male 2008]

Now do you agree with what i said on MSN Blood? ;)

[Brushfire]

We have already decided that and we all agree that you have been suitably punished' date=' this can now be locked to stop unnescarry arguments

[/quote']

Hah, you call yours and Dj's mockery of a defense to mean that the issue has been "decided"? I think not.

 

As we have discussed, agreed.

 

Pathetic.

 

Darth is right, and so am I. You two alone can not resolve the issue and call it justified (JoC and Dj).

[JesusofChaos™]

 

 

Rule 20

Staff have final say

 

If a mod bans a member it is for a reason and of course members can protest but please keep the protesting to yourself because we do not want this kind of thing going on here. The moderator's of this forum do not have an easy job and it would be best that if you have a problem you bring it up with them in a calm manner. Flaming the moderator's for the decisions that make will most likely get you into trouble.

 

Stop breaking the rules

 

Pyro u have absolutly no say at all. Falling Pizza also agrees with the punishment

[Bloodrun]

It is impossible and impractical to list every rule possible.

 

:|

 

ok then, you just spammed, you have only two characters in your post

do you see how incredibly retardedd that is?

 

it is not a just prosecution, as something this big, should be written, this did not harm anyone on this site, nor did it harm the site itself!

 

 

and JoC, final, on what?!

there is nothing to have a final say on!

hes just mad beuase he didnt think of it first

he did the same damn thing!

twice

twice!

twice!

the same number me and Yankee had done, you call this just?

you call this fair?

I call this a mockery!

[Mr. Best Male 2008]

 

 

Rule 20

Staff have final say

 

If a mod bans a member it is for a reason and of course members can protest but please keep the protesting to yourself because we do not want this kind of thing going on here. The moderator's of this forum do not have an easy job and it would be best that if you have a problem you bring it up with them in a calm manner. Flaming the moderator's for the decisions that make will most likely get you into trouble.

 

Stop breaking the rules

 

Pyro u have absolutly no say at all. Falling Pizza also agrees with the punishment

 

FAIL

[Brushfire]

 

 

Rule 20

Staff have final say

 

If a mod bans a member it is for a reason and of course members can protest but please keep the protesting to yourself because we do not want this kind of thing going on here. The moderator's of this forum do not have an easy job and it would be best that if you have a problem you bring it up with them in a calm manner. Flaming the moderator's for the decisions that make will most likely get you into trouble.

 

Stop breaking the rules

 

Pyro u have absolutly no say at all. Falling Pizza also agrees with the punishment

 

I have a say, it just doesn't have to be taken.

 

Free will ftw.

 

FP agrees? Why would he agree with such an idiotic and stupid decision? It really doesn't seem like him to do such a thing.

[Guest]

 

 

Rule 20

Staff have final say

 

If a mod bans a member it is for a reason and of course members can protest but please keep the protesting to yourself because we do not want this kind of thing going on here. The moderator's of this forum do not have an easy job and it would be best that if you have a problem you bring it up with them in a calm manner. Flaming the moderator's for the decisions that make will most likely get you into trouble.

 

Stop breaking the rules

 

Pyro u have absolutly no choice. Falling Pizza also agrees with the punishment

I do not see any flaming of moderators' date=' and I tried to bring up a protest peaceably in the mod's forum, but between you, Dj, and FP providing no evidence whatsoever, just ignoring all my counter-arguments, and deciding amongst yourselves that the issue was resolved, it has come to this. Besides, that rule is currently only about bans, not about having points taken away as that has never happened before to my knowledge.

 

FP agrees? Why would he agree with such an idiotic and stupid decision? It really doesn't seem like him to do such a thing.

I had that exact same thought.

[Willieh]

It is impossible and impractical to list every rule possible.

 

:|

 

ok then' date=' you just spammed, you have only two characters in your post

do you see how incredibly retardedd that is?

 

it is not a just prosecution, as something this big, should be written, this did not harm anyone on this site, nor did it harm the site itself!

[/quote']

 

Actually that wasn't spam. The post had a message and a point.

 

It was trying to make you aware of the fact that not every rule is actually listed in the rules.

 

I don't think it's morally right that they did this to you and yankeefan, but I'm not going to say it's unjust.

[JesusofChaos™]

As i thought this thread is just generating uneeded arguments

[J-Max]

Come on though..... Dj always goes on about "Attention Seeking" Threads. What is he worried he is going to lose his precious Place on the Leaderboards? Seriously Dj stop pissing around and givew them back thier Points or is this a Threat to you? You have changed so so much since you became a Super.

[Bloodrun]

 

 

Rule 20

Staff have final say

 

If a mod bans a member it is for a reason and of course members can protest but please keep the protesting to yourself because we do not want this kind of thing going on here. The moderator's of this forum do not have an easy job and it would be best that if you have a problem you bring it up with them in a calm manner. Flaming the moderator's for the decisions that make will most likely get you into trouble.

 

Stop breaking the rules

 

Pyro u have absolutly no say at all. Falling Pizza also agrees with the punishment

 

It is impossible and impractical to list every rule possible.

 

:|

 

ok then' date=' you just spammed, you have only two characters in your post

do you see how incredibly retardedd that is?

 

it is not a just prosecution, as something this big, should be written, this did not harm anyone on this site, nor did it harm the site itself!

[/quote']

 

Actually that wasn't spam. The post had a message and a point.

 

It was trying to make you aware of the fact that not every rule is actually listed in the rules.

 

I don't think it's morally right that they did this to you and yankeefan, but I'm not going to say it's unjust.

 

ok, then do you agree with me, when i say that Dj should reciee the same punishment

since he himself did the same exact thing?

 

JoC

it isnt uneeded

its prooving to people, how much that certain moderators have lost lost their luster, and its responsibility, and all, do, respect.

[Mr. Best Male 2008]

As i thought this thread is just generating uneeded arguments

 

It is not unneeded.

 

I say' date=' DJ is a [b']horrible [/b]Mod.

[Guest KAJN]

Well in other forums these things happen. We deal with it by PM. As much as I wanna give the rights to everyone I can't it's not me who makes the rules. In here I'm not a global or a normal mod. So I can't even gave anything back. To deal with this you have to speak more to the mods about this. And get you points back as I guess. But that's the only thing you can do while you're not a mod or an "Honor" member in other forums that have this type.

[Willieh]

 

 

Rule 20

Staff have final say

 

If a mod bans a member it is for a reason and of course members can protest but please keep the protesting to yourself because we do not want this kind of thing going on here. The moderator's of this forum do not have an easy job and it would be best that if you have a problem you bring it up with them in a calm manner. Flaming the moderator's for the decisions that make will most likely get you into trouble.

 

Stop breaking the rules

 

Pyro u have absolutly no say at all. Falling Pizza also agrees with the punishment

 

It is impossible and impractical to list every rule possible.

 

:|

 

ok then' date=' you just spammed, you have only two characters in your post

do you see how incredibly retardedd that is?

 

it is not a just prosecution, as something this big, should be written, this did not harm anyone on this site, nor did it harm the site itself!

[/quote']

 

Actually that wasn't spam. The post had a message and a point.

 

It was trying to make you aware of the fact that not every rule is actually listed in the rules.

 

I don't think it's morally right that they did this to you and yankeefan, but I'm not going to say it's unjust.

 

ok, then do you agree with me, when i say that Dj should reciee the same punishment

since he himself did the same exact thing?

Assuming he did do the exact same thing, yes, I do agree that he should recieve the same punishment.

[Brushfire]

Come on though..... Dj always goes on about "Attention Seeking" Threads. What is he worried he is going to lose his precious Place on the Leaderboards? Seriously Dj stop pissing around and givew them back thier Points or is this a Threat to you? You have changed so so much since you became a Super.

 

Damn f***ing agreed!

 

This is a mockery, agreed Bloodrun.

 

I agree with Bloodrun, Darth, Krow and J-Max 100%.

 

JoC, don't start telling me the Rules, and saying I'm breaking them, because I'm not. I have not flamed anyone, but I refuse the accept the Moderator's choice because it is unjust and pathetic.

 

I do not understand how you can just say "It iz dis" and not give any logical or valid reasons to back it up, as Browarod has done.

[Bloodrun]

 

 

Rule 20

Staff have final say

 

If a mod bans a member it is for a reason and of course members can protest but please keep the protesting to yourself because we do not want this kind of thing going on here. The moderator's of this forum do not have an easy job and it would be best that if you have a problem you bring it up with them in a calm manner. Flaming the moderator's for the decisions that make will most likely get you into trouble.

 

Stop breaking the rules

 

Pyro u have absolutly no say at all. Falling Pizza also agrees with the punishment

 

It is impossible and impractical to list every rule possible.

 

:|

 

ok then' date=' you just spammed, you have only two characters in your post

do you see how incredibly retardedd that is?

 

it is not a just prosecution, as something this big, should be written, this did not harm anyone on this site, nor did it harm the site itself!

[/quote']

 

Actually that wasn't spam. The post had a message and a point.

 

It was trying to make you aware of the fact that not every rule is actually listed in the rules.

 

I don't think it's morally right that they did this to you and yankeefan, but I'm not going to say it's unjust.

 

ok, then do you agree with me, when i say that Dj should reciee the same punishment

since he himself did the same exact thing?

Assuming he did do the exact same thing, yes, I do agree that he should recieve the same punishment.

 

and he did

the mods can even look in the logs

he did the same exact! same thing we did!

[JesusofChaos™]

Ill give you my reasoning exactly the same as ive stated before to Darth:

Not all rules are written rules. Take sport for an example. There are many ways say in cricket to do something which gives you team an unfair advantage which is not against the rules (such as a bowler switching the side of the wicket he is bowling and the batsman holding the bails on so he cant be bowled), however neither will do this because it is against the spirit of the game.

 

People who cannot followed the spirit of the game will most likely be forced to forfeit any advantage they have gained and the rule be written into the rules after the incident has occured.

 

In my eyes DJ did the right thing

[Bloodrun]

Ill give you my reasoning exactly the same as ive stated before to Darth:

Not all rules are written rules. Take sport for an example. There are many ways say in cricket to do something which gives you team an unfair advantage which is not against the rules (such as a bowler switching the side of the wicket he is bowling and the batsman holding the bails on so he cant be bowled)' date=' however neither will do this because it is against the spirit of the game.

 

People who cannot followed the spirit of the game will most likely be forced to forfeit any advantage they have gained and the rule be written into the rules after the incident has occured.

 

In my eyes DJ did the right thing

[/quote']

 

Then if its the right thing, Dj should have the shame thing hapen!

he did the same damn thing, you say your fair, then prove it!