Yogg-Saron Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Hole Think it should be unbanned? I personally think that this is about the same as a Heavy Storm. You go second, clear your opponent's monsters with this. You go second, clear about 2 of the s/ts that your opponent just set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 One of my arguments to ban heavy storm. I can not agree with you on returning Dark Hole, but will you agree with me in banning Heavy Storm? o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 The lunatic is on the grassThe lunatic is on the grassRemembering games and daisy chains and laughsGot to keep the loonies on the path The lunatic is in the hallThe lunatics are in my hallThe paper holds their folded faces to the floorAnd every day the paper boy brings more And if the dam breaks open many years too soonAnd if there is no room upon the hillAnd if your head explodes with dark forbodings tooI'll see you on the dark side of the moon The lunatic is in my headThe lunatic is in my headYou raise the blade, you make the changeYou re-arrange me till I'm saneYou lock the doorAnd throw away the keyTheres someone in my head but its not me. And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your earYou shout and no one seems to hearAnd if the band you're in starts playing different tunesI'll see you on the dark side of the moon "What", you may ask, "does the song Brain Damage have to do with this topic?" Well, for one thing, it's got the word "dark" in it, and for another thing, anyone who wants Dark Hole unbanned is probably brain damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Spells and Traps must be less important since: Raigeki, destroy all opponent`s monsters. BANNEDHarpie`s Feather Duster, destroy all opponent`s Spells Traps. BANNED Dark Hole, destroy all monsters. BANNEDHeavy Storm, destroy and Spells Traps. LIMITED So Heavy Storm sticks out there at 1. I think it should remain that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzi Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 The lunatic is on the grassThe lunatic is on the grassRemembering games and daisy chains and laughsGot to keep the loonies on the path The lunatic is in the hallThe lunatics are in my hallThe paper holds their folded faces to the floorAnd every day the paper boy brings more And if the dam breaks open many years too soonAnd if there is no room upon the hillAnd if your head explodes with dark forbodings tooI'll see you on the dark side of the moon The lunatic is in my headThe lunatic is in my headYou raise the blade' date=' you make the changeYou re-arrange me till I'm saneYou lock the doorAnd throw away the keyTheres someone in my head but its not me. And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your earYou shout and no one seems to hearAnd if the band you're in starts playing different tunesI'll see you on the dark side of the moon "What", you may ask, "does the song [i']Brain Damage[/i] have to do with this topic?" Well, for one thing, it's got the word "dark" in it, and for another thing, anyone who wants Dark Hole unbanned is probably brain damaged.XDThat is so totally awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Should stay ban. Just as good as Raigeki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogg-Saron Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 The lunatic is on the grassThe lunatic is on the grassRemembering games and daisy chains and laughsGot to keep the loonies on the path The lunatic is in the hallThe lunatics are in my hallThe paper holds their folded faces to the floorAnd every day the paper boy brings more And if the dam breaks open many years too soonAnd if there is no room upon the hillAnd if your head explodes with dark forbodings tooI'll see you on the dark side of the moon The lunatic is in my headThe lunatic is in my headYou raise the blade' date=' you make the changeYou re-arrange me till I'm saneYou lock the doorAnd throw away the keyTheres someone in my head but its not me. And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your earYou shout and no one seems to hearAnd if the band you're in starts playing different tunesI'll see you on the dark side of the moon "What", you may ask, "does the song [i']Brain Damage[/i] have to do with this topic?" Well, for one thing, it's got the word "dark" in it, and for another thing, anyone who wants Dark Hole unbanned is probably brain damaged.I pity the retards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegargoylevine Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 The majority of Spells go to the grave after being used; the majority of Traps can be chained. But Monsters tend to stay on the field after being summoned, and some require tributes to be summoned. It's very easy to just play Dark Hole, send your Sangan and Card Trooper to the grave, then summon Spirit Reaper or Don Zaloog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archbaron Larry Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I think Heavy Storm should stay Limited, then un ban Dark Hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy R. Enigma Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Uh.. Dark Hole should stay banned, it is too powerful it gives you Field Advantage if you play it right, but sometimes it doesn't. While Heavy Storm doesn't really give you any kind of Field Advantage unless you call S/T advantage, advantage. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Master Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Monsters are to hard to summon. Like if you wait so long and finally ritual summon a really good monster, or like just summoned Sorcerer of Dark Magic and your like YES! then your opponent plays dark hole, BAM! bye bye... While spells and trap cards are less you know...hard to summon lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Monsters are to hard to summon. Like if you wait so long and finally ritual summon a really good monster' date=' or like just summoned Sorcerer of Dark Magic and your like YES! then your opponent plays dark hole, BAM! bye bye... While spells and trap cards are less you know...hard to summon lol.[/quote'] You're right. Like the other day I Summoned Crab Turtle and equipped it with Power of Kaishin, and my opponent played Dark Hole. I was so disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Im sorry? Since when did the summoning of a monster become the reasoning for Dark Holes banning? >.>... Should all cards that destroy monsters be banned? no -.-"... Its another Raigeki when you have an open field, or monsters you wanna blow up. Nuff' said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 "What"' date=' you may ask, "does the song [i']Brain Damage[/i] have to do with this topic?" Well, for one thing, it's got the word "dark" in it, and for another thing, anyone who wants Dark Hole unbanned is probably brain damaged. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Why have storm and not Hole? Can you chain monsters? I thought not >>(among a million other good reasons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 my opinion Dark hole is better than Raigeki, purely because it can help a lot with a lot of top tier decks and it can generate more advantage to you. In ADV format it can help with DAD, and it can be used for a free field wipe and sangan search. In Trad it makes Chaos decks faster as it can send darks and lights to the grave. I have actually dark holed with my Chaos Deck when my opponent had no field so I could pull out all the chaos at once lol. anyway Id say that if Dark hole was to come back, it would be run in mostly DAD and LS, being as it can help get Darks and Lightsworns, and even Yubel decks to work A LOT faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Dark Hole can just be a Raigeki anyways. DOnt summon monsters before you play it. =/ My Opinion: It stays banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 This card gives insane advantage and can be a Raigeki if you control no Monsters. There is also Torrential Tribute which to me is a more situational Dark Hole in the form of a Trap. Dark Hole can stay banned. We still have Torrential Tribute. Use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Takes longer to set up a field of monsters than a field of spells/traps. Should stay banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 "What"' date=' you may ask, "does the song [i']Brain Damage[/i] have to do with this topic?" Well, for one thing, it's got the word "dark" in it, and for another thing, anyone who wants Dark Hole unbanned is probably brain damaged. *cough* SBE *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 it should stay banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advicedog Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Monsters are to hard to summon. Like if you wait so long and finally ritual summon a really good monster' date=' or like just summoned Sorcerer of Dark Magic and your like YES! then your opponent plays dark hole, BAM! bye bye... While spells and trap cards are less you know...hard to summon lol.[/quote']What's your view on Bottomless Trap Hole? How about Hammer Shot? Lightning Vortex, maybe? There are many other ways to kill a powerful monster than simply clearing the field. If your entire strategy revolves around summoning one monster, you should at least be able to prevent an early death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero_89 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 dark hole is broken...destroying all monsters without a cost is too powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30degrees Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 When I checked the Banned List the other day, I was like WTF?. Cards like Pot of Greed and Graceful Charity, all classics banned? And no I dont think Dark Hole should be unbanned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoPaladin2008 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 ^ lrn2play >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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