Bringer Of The Apocalypse Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Yata-lock, Chaos or Exchange FTK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 The coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 As far as those decks go, using Second Coin Toss somehow out of the duel and letting you flip twice to see who wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringer Of The Apocalypse Posted August 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 What's that combo, or is that a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 He's talking about using cards outside of duels. Methinks there is a slight possibility that it was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringer Of The Apocalypse Posted August 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Im thinking Yata-Lock but arent Yata-Lock and Chaos basically the same thing? I basically focused my Chaos deck on executing the Yata-Lock with PoC assisted Norleras as well as Chaos Emperor Dragon either PoC assisted or the card itself. It seems to work pretty good and consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 you forgot exotk, empty jar (or ghandipants), dad, stein and lolwut last turn (this one is dead). well with your choice chaos is the best and it usually runs yata and stein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Exchange is surely the most punch-in-the-face. (Lawl, you deckout on first turn!)Yata guarantees win if run correctly, but takes such a long time to execute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I dont see Stein run in Chaos. At least not that often. Cyber-Stein OTK is still pretty good though. Yata-Lock is the most consistent of them all. Especially when you throw Norleras, PoC, a D-Draw engine, a Trade-In engine, and since there are usually a good amount of DARKs in Chaos Allure could go in too. There are also other good options like Demise (DARK, Level 8, field nuking effect which works great with PoC) or even JD (low cost field nuke, Level 8, LIGHT, also works great with PoC). Anyone who thinks Yata-Lock is inconsistent needs to try harder. It is probably the most consistent build in Traditional. A lot of draw engines can speed up the Yata-Lock greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Exchange. How can you win before you draw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Yata-Lock wins hands down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasy Dreamz Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 id go with yata ss witch/sanga somehowss field nuker and nuke the fieldyata wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I don't follow the Trad meta, but I didn't think Scientist was so bad that it wasn't even worth being mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I don't know if Exchange is still consistent in Trad (I only used it with no ban list, which FTKs every time), but I think it's the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Doesnt seem that consistent to me. Especially when Makyura and Exchange of the Spirit are both Limited in Traditional. Yata-Lock can be very consistent if built properly. I made a very fast version with 3 draw engines as well as Traditional Staples. It can lock the opponent in the first few turns on a consistent basis. Dead Draws are hardly a problem. See for yourselves: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-65963.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Scientist was used with Catapult Turtle if I remember, and usually Turtle was summoned by Monster Gate. Like I said, I don't remember. I wasn't really into the game at the time Scientist was in use. Also, I WAS using a bit of a joke xP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Chaos owns pretty much anything you can't focus on any combo because of the hand control (1st turn ccv or duo just kills). Yata needs to be able to attack so you can't pull it off on the first turn so you need enough support to limit what your opponent can do. Stein (because random stein is redundant you can only play one) is one of the best card there, most deck lacks defensive traps and because of this most of the time it's just a draw/search, play, win. He is one of the rare one card kill with CED and dimension fusion. Plus most of the other strategy can be countered with a good side deck (notably poc, exchange of the spirit, exodia, yata, empty jar, lolturn). The only other deck that can adapt to all decks and is powerful enough is DAD. BTW scientist dies sept 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasy Dreamz Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 the scientist otk just got better with limiter reverser not limitedscientist atk>1000turtle atk>1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 the scientist otk just got better with limiter reverser not limitedscientist atk>1000turtle atk>1000 I'm sorry, I must confess that I don't know much about mathematics, but I had thought that ">" usually denoted that the first value listed was greater in value than the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 the scientist otk just got better with limiter reverser not limitedscientist atkturtle atk=1000 Fix'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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