The "Negative Levels" Concept

[Kale]

Really? I should read your fanfic.

 

Anyway' date=' they'll probably make more sense as Season 2 progresses.

[/quote']

well Double Attack's effect is discarding a monster so that a lower leveled monster could attack twice. 1 is technically higher than -5, so there you have a high double attacker.

 

I think that is the first example that bypasses the level requirement situation besides the ones I stated. ^_^

 

See? These can easily be abused...

[Wyhe]

Really? I should read your fanfic.

 

Anyway' date=' they'll probably make more sense as Season 2 progresses.

[/quote']

well Double Attack's effect is discarding a monster so that a lower leveled monster could attack twice. 1 is technically higher than -5, so there you have a high double attacker.

 

I think that is the first example that bypasses the level requirement situation besides the ones I stated. ^_^

 

See? These can easily be abused...

Yup,I was just putting down my custom monster for the chapter when I heard the new "Dark Synchros & negative level" thing. Then, I thought it is the best thing I needed here!

[Psycho Shocker Android]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Tuner_Catastrophe

 

This seems like a promising concept. Getting something new is always entertaining and it's better if it's something good. (see the difference between gemini and syncro)

 

They made it playable (unless they include the dreaded : "This card can't be sp summoned" on this card's effect). Even if you need a high level monster on the field for a dark syncro they made dark tuner catastrophe lv8 AND dark AND 0 atk. (trade in, allure of darkness, limit reverse...)

 

Remember freezing fitzgerald goes in your extra deck and when it will come out we'll probably have some trouble finding room for dark syncros in our extra deck.

 

I think they won't make the absolute value ruling because they will want this to sell. Also, I like the idea of being able to summon big monsters with graceful revival or bypass gravity bind.

 

And did you see the card, everything is awesome : the colors, the creture's art, it's effect...

[armageddon08]

The only think I see as being uncreative is the switch of the stars from one side to the other.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Next up: Fusionchros. They need tuners AND a fusion card. And their levels are fractions.

[armageddon08]

That's exactly what you told me a couple days back:).

[Father Wolf]

i highly dought these will come out in ocg let alone tcg but u never know. it would spice up the game more than synchros ever did.

 

Note: dark tuners might have the abilities to change the Non- dark tuner monsters level. it could possible got negitve making dark synchros just as easy to summon as normal... atleast this is my thiery

[tonisanoob]

pointless confusion is pointless

[Azuh]

What they would probably do is that

 

A -5 Monster such as Freezing Fitzgerald, would be treated as a +5 monster on the field or graveyard, so it cannot be used in conjunction with cards like Gravity Bind and so on

[Kale]

What they would probably do is that

 

A -5 Monster such as Freezing Fitzgerald' date=' would be treated as a +5 monster on the field or graveyard, so it cannot be used in conjunction with cards like Gravity Bind and so on

[/quote']

 

Yep, that was exactly what I thought they would do. I called it "Absolute Value"

[ShadowKyogre]

And absolute value is a math concept. The only way I can think of to balance DSs is by using the concept of absolute value.

[The Dark One]

You guys are all assuming that the Dark Synchro ability to get around these cards makes them inherently broken. Batteryman AAA can have 3000 ATK and get's under gravity bind. It's probably easier to get out 3 Batteryman AAAs then it is to get out a Dark Synchro anyways. (Assuming of course that you're running a Batteryman deck and not just randomly splashing 3 into some other deck because you're retarded like that.)

 

I think it's a neat concept, I just wish they could think of a better name for them.

[armageddonagain]

You guys are all assuming that the Dark Synchro ability to get around these cards makes them inherently broken. Batteryman AAA can have 3000 ATK and get's under gravity bind. It's probably easier to get out 3 Batteryman AAAs then it is to get out a Dark Synchro anyways. (Assuming of course that you're running a Batteryman deck and not just randomly splashing 3 into some other deck because you're retarded like that.)

 

I think it's a neat concept' date=' I just wish they could think of a better name for them.

[/quote']Something like Negynchros.

[Umbra]

You guys are all assuming that the Dark Synchro ability to get around these cards makes them inherently broken. Batteryman AAA can have 3000 ATK and get's under gravity bind. It's probably easier to get out 3 Batteryman AAAs then it is to get out a Dark Synchro anyways. (Assuming of course that you're running a Batteryman deck and not just randomly splashing 3 into some other deck because you're retarded like that.)

 

I think it's a neat concept' date=' I just wish they could think of a better name for them.

[/quote']Something like Negynchros.

Yeah. Except that he said "better". Like, "Invert" monsters.

[JesusofChaos™]

Just no. Silly idea

[werewolfjedi]

i remember i ruling that might effect this:

any amount or number on a card that can be reduced does not go below 0, that is why you can't use cards like reverse trap to reduce the monster equipped with mage power/ united/ a lot of buff/ etc to have it go below 0 and therefore deal more damage or whatever.

 

basicly that means the min is "capped" at 0. no less.

 

but 0 still works for your ideas, doesn't it?

[Valkyrie Lupia Blitzer]

Ugh. Whoever came up with negalevels was an imbecile' date=' for this reason among others.

[/quote']

Nah, it would be awesome and would screw the noobs :D

 

Anyways, if an Absolute Value ruling was enforced, then Negative Levels would be pointless.

[randomkardmaker9]

if they dont make dark synchros im gonna make my own using my awesome skills with a program called paint.

[Kale]

if they dont make dark synchros im gonna make my own using my awesome skills with a program called paint.

 

chances are, if you are using paint, then those skillz you claim to have arent too awesome.

 

btw, this was an old thread, no need to bump it from last friday.

 

and if they didnt make them, how would making your own influence game play?

[Aximil]

i highly dought these will come out in ocg let alone tcg

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Tuner_Chaosrogue

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Tuner_Catastrogre

Why would they make these cards if they weren't going to release Dark Synchros?

[Phantom Roxas]

i highly dought these will come out in ocg let alone tcg

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Tuner_Chaosrogue

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Tuner_Catastrogre

Why would they make these cards if they weren't going to release Dark Synchros?

 

Look at the images closely, they were taken from the Anime.

[Aximil]

Can't tell. Haven't seen it.

[Wyhe]

i highly dought these will come out in ocg let alone tcg

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Tuner_Chaosrogue

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Tuner_Catastrogre

Why would they make these cards if they weren't going to release Dark Synchros?

 

Look at the images closely' date=' they were taken from the Anime.

[/quote']

If you can see the images,they would look almost too perfect...too perfect to be the real thing.

[Psycho Shocker Android]

I really like the dark tuners they have usefull effects for the moment and are very playable. I'm pretty sure they will make dark syncros for the real game but they might end up not printing all the cards used for them in the anime just like any other theme.

[Lazer Yoshi]

This would make Gravity Bind awesome. Dark Synchros FTW if they come out.