Valkyrie Lupia Blitzer Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 This thread is for discusìon of hacking and scaling of Pokémon games and Yu-Gi-Oh packs, respectively. [spoiler=What is Hacking?]Hacking is changing a game's code so people can obtain certain items and things from the game. [spoiler=What is Scaling?]Scaling is the weighing of packs to get rarer cards in packs. You see, rarer cards are a tiny bit heavier than common cards, and only an electronic scale can pick up the difference. Many people object to these measures of getting items. I've only heard a lot of objection to hacking, which are usually: -Because it's cheating! D:-Because it ruins fun! D: Both are crap arguments. I'm too lazy to explain why right now. I haven't heard so much scaling arguments. So...blast away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Many people object to these measures of getting items. I haven't heard so much scaling arguments. Lol contradiction. On-topic: -Because it's cheating! D: It's only cheating if /. You... MIGHT be able to work that argument more with PKMN more then YGO though. -Because it ruins fun! D: What fun is spending your / on / when it could be gotten in a simpler, faster way that benefits people more in that / and doesn't harm anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Lupia Blitzer Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Many people object to these measures of getting items. I haven't heard so much scaling arguments. Lol contradiction.I lol'ed a bit. However, just because I know they exist doesn't mean I've seen them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 BlasphemyBoth ways are stupid Oh k...on topicIt's noobs who do hacking and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfMagicians Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I agree, to a certain degree. When messing with Action Replays, or Game Sharks, i never use codes that others have created using different programs. I know there's one that can create any code you like for the Pokemon Diamond and Pearl versions, but I refuse to use any codes such as that.Why?Because 90% of them damage your game somehow. They'll erase something or they'll change how your game operates, they'll mess with your statistics, and they'll essentially, ruin the game. The only codes I would really essentially ever use would be:Catch any pokemonCatch shiney pokemon999 Rare Candies999 of any pokeball999,999 pokedollarsEverything else I do myself. Would I call that hacking? No, not essentially. In Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, any pokemon you catch in the pal park is automatically a lower level to begin with, so whats the difference in catching them in pal park or catching them in the wild at level 3? There really isn't one. People have been using the rare candies cheat codes since Pokemon Blue and Red, so there's no surprise there, and as far as the money goes, how else are you going to buy all those really nice things? So, is it technically hacking? Maybe...but I don't consider it, since I raise the pokemon instead of just catching them at whatever level, with whatever abilities and attacks. I'll get them to where I want them (or where the individual wants them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Hacking and Action Replaying = win i see nothing wrong with it. Especially to catch only Event Only Pokemon such as Mew or Celebi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfMagicians Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Exactly!How else are you supposed to help your fellow man (or woman)?Not everybody has 400 friends that play pokemon and can trade back and forth,nor does everybody have 3 different versions of the games plus 4 gameboys, nintendo d/s, etc.We work with what we can to get what we need, to do what we have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I for one think that scaling is bad, Example: You're going to buy packs. Someone just used a scale and got all the rarest card packs. Then you buy a few packs hoping to get DAD/JD/SD etc. and you just get some lousy rares. It's no wonder stores don't allow scaling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfMagicians Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 You can still do scaling in stores like Wal*Mart or any place that sells cards and has a produce section. Simply place the card packs in the scales. You won't be able to do large quantities of them at a time, but you can get the heaviest out of 3 or 4 packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Scaling does not bother me, as I have, what? 10 Yu-Gi-Oh! cards? And most of them are God cards obtained by events. But hacking, this is what bothers me. I think it is fine to get a Shaymin, or a Darkrai, or an Arceus using ARDS. Cuz it is basically like living in Japan. But messing up the games codes to get perfect IV's and EV's is NOT OK. And people argue that sooner or later you will find a Pokemon like that. News for ya, it is a random process. Choosing the EVs and IVs is NOT random. So, you are basically messing with the games files to obtain a Pokemon that is unrandom, which normally SHOULD be random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Lupia Blitzer Posted October 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Scaling does not bother me' date=' as I have, what? 10 Yu-Gi-Oh! cards? And most of them are God cards obtained by events. But hacking, this is what bothers me. I think it is fine to get a Shaymin, or a Darkrai, or an Arceus using ARDS. Cuz it is basically like living in Japan. But messing up the games codes to get perfect IV's and EV's is NOT OK. [b']Don't you think it's painful to go 10 hours EV training a Pokémon, finding something wrong with it, then doing it again?[/b] And people argue that sooner or later you will find a Pokemon like that. News for ya, it is a random process. Choosing the EVs and IVs is NOT random. Lolcontradition? Maybe...anyways, if it's not random, then why do you think it's completely random? So, you are basically messing with the games files to obtain a Pokemon that is unrandom, which normally SHOULD be random. Techinically, going 10 hours EV training isn't a random process either.Simply for the sake of randomness?! I slightly support randomness, but that is going a bit too far. D: >_> *is an anti-anti-Hacker and an anti-anti-Scaler* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 ScalingScaling = Money = Win $_$ Pkm Hacking Hacking = HACKING!!!!1 = Win >=] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfMagicians Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I agree DarkDragonX, and that is why I will not "hack" for max EV's.Action Replay Codes to get certain pokemon is okay, but not to get maxed IV or EV's. I would never sink to that level of desperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I've only hacked on Pokemon when its impossible to get the Pokemon any other way, namely because the events just aren't held within a 2 hour travel radius of me (events where I am are very far between, I think the only one I knew of was Mew last year), other than that, I'd rather get them myself. Plus my WiFi has no chance of working again, unless Nintendo sort the issues with the WiFi dongle out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I personally thing these two topics are too different, but w/e. I for one think that scaling is bad' date=' Example: You're going to buy packs. Someone just used a scale and got all the rarest card packs. Then you buy a few packs hoping to get DAD/JD/SD etc. and you just get some lousy rares. It's no wonder stores don't allow scaling[/quote'] My opinion of the matter has always been that non-scalers have no one to blame for their "bad pulls" but themselves. They're not required to buy Yu-Gi-Oh cards, and they're free to join the scaling community, to increase the likelihood of getting good pulls. If they insist on tempting fate, then they have pretty much no right to complain, especially the ones who know about scaling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Hacking does not ruin fun. It only adds to it. It gets people to get creative, and allows people to experience new maps and puzzles and stories from Pokemon without having to wait on another game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Scaling don't care about. Don't do it, but I still have cards like E-Tele and DAd.Besides scaling is really only easy to do when you have a box, open only the good packs and just sell the rest. Most store, well at least the ones I go to, have their cards behind things or in something so you either can't scale, or the odds of it being wrong are higher. Hacking only makes your life easier and so long as it isn't Evs>510, IVs>31, moves pokemon shouldn't have, etc their is nothing wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:stardust dragon:. Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 i think scaling is wrong... i don't want to go buy a pack only to get a dam normal rare in it everytime, just because all the scalers have took the good packs!!! 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfMagicians Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Meh,I don't worry about scalers.If I get extras that I really don't need, I sell them in my online shop (pm me for link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Lupia Blitzer Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 I personally thing these two topics are too different' date=' but w/e. I for one think that scaling is bad, Example: You're going to buy packs. Someone just used a scale and got all the rarest card packs. Then you buy a few packs hoping to get DAD/JD/SD etc. and you just get some lousy rares. It's no wonder stores don't allow scaling My opinion of the matter has always been that non-scalers have no one to blame for their "bad pulls" but themselves. They're not required to buy Yu-Gi-Oh cards, and they're free to join the scaling community, to increase the likelihood of getting good pulls. If they insist on tempting fate, then they have pretty much no right to complain, especially the ones who know about scaling.Where can you get an electronic scale then? @_@ I seriously doubt that everybody can get one of those. Hacking does not ruin fun. It only adds to it. It gets people to get creative' date=' and allows people to experience new maps and puzzles and stories from Pokemon without having to wait on another game.[/quote']True dat. Meh' date='I don't worry about scalers.If I get extras that I really don't need, I sell them in my online shop (pm me for link).[/quote']Nice way to use your extras...but how do you sell your crap cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfMagicians Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 You put them up for sale.You can either put them in a random bundle of 10, 15, 20 with some good cards or you can sell them off individually for like $0.10 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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