Guest Star Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dragonic_Knight I think there was a discussion about this card a while ago, and I think that in that discussion many people said that this card was bad. However, I've noticed on another forum that I'm on that there was a thread about this card, and I'd like to bring up the point that this card is a very easy way to counter Dark Armed Dragon. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Doesn't counter DAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 As said in the last discussion, it's meant to counter DAD, but sucks at doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 It's not meant to counter DaD. I use it to counter Gyzarus, but there aren't enough GB decks running amok for it to be justified outside of locals, where nearly everybody still has their GB deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMan Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I got this in the JUMP magazine.This is what happens:DAD activates effect and destroys your monster. Dragonic Knight says HI! DAD says BYE! activates effect Dragonic Knight: WHY?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Good against that Monarch (I keep forgetting the name) If all goes to plan you'd have a nice 2800 ATK Beatstick on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuki ni Mau Majin Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 You've a card targeted by DaD and chain this card's effect to the target. Your opponent targets Dragonic Knight. >.> This card sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Good against that Monarch (I keep forgetting the name) If all goes to plan you'd have a nice 2800 ATK Beatstick on the field. Only good against Granmarg, Zaborg and Mobius, none of whom see any real play anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMan Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Good against that Monarch (I keep forgetting the name) If all goes to plan you'd have a nice 2800 ATK Beatstick on the field. rarely. and you mean Zaborg. There are not many monsters that I know, except DAD, JD, Gyzarus, and maybe a few more that are not good in todays metagame. And its still no good. your opponent can take care of it easily. so this card gets a no, unless the meta changes to having as many effect monsters that use their effects to destroy your opponents monsters, then I dont think this card has a chance. Just trade it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Good against that Monarch (I keep forgetting the name) If all goes to plan you'd have a nice 2800 ATK Beatstick on the field. rarely. and you mean Zaborg. There are not many monsters that I know' date=' except DAD, JD, Gyzarus, and maybe a few more that are not good in todays metagame. And its still no good. your opponent can take care of it easily. so this card gets a no, unless the meta changes to having as many effect monsters that use their effects to destroy your opponents monsters, then I dont think this card has a chance. Just trade it.[/quote'] Snipe Hunter, Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter. This card definitely has potential, and if Monarchs make a return, then this card would be useful against them as well as Dark Armed Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuki ni Mau Majin Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Erm, Snipe Hunter has lost it's touch. It doesn't have much of an effect on teh game anymore. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Snipe Hunter was mained in more than half of the Top 16 decks at the last SJC, so running into Snipe Hunter is a distinct possibility. Still, this card is a bit too situational, and most of the cards that let it be used without having the capacity to then kill it aren't run too often nowadays, especially with Stardust Dragon making players shy away from destruction effects when possible. Even in a Monarch deck, none of the three best Monarchs - Raiza, Caius, and Thestalos - let this be used (Kreis is excluded because he doesn't go in Monarch decks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Much better against GBs then against DAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Snipe Hunter was mained in more than half of the Top 16 decks at the last SJC' date=' so running into Snipe Hunter is a distinct possibility. Still, this card is a bit too situational, and most of the cards that let it be used without having the capacity to then kill it aren't run too often nowadays, especially with Stardust Dragon making players shy away from destruction effects when possible. Even in a Monarch deck, none of the three best Monarchs - Raiza, Caius, and Thestalos - let this be used (Kreis is excluded because he doesn't go in Monarch decks).[/quote'] It can't possibly be a bad thing to side this card. I've seen at least one Deck on another forum that I'm on side this card. Worst case scenario, you could Normal Summon this card if you're in a tough situation. Not that I'm saying Summoning a 2800 ATK monster that is basically a normal monster once it's on the field is a good thing, but it wouldn't be a bad thing if you were about to lose. While it is sort of situational, it can stop Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter, Snipe Hunter, Dark Armed Dragon, and Gyzarus, and those cards are used in Tier 1 Decks. If you Summoned this in response to Dark Armed Dragon's effect, would your opponent still have to remove the monster, and would the effect stop because the original target is no longer on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Snipe Hunter was mained in more than half of the Top 16 decks at the last SJC' date=' so running into Snipe Hunter is a distinct possibility. Still, this card is a bit too situational, and most of the cards that let it be used without having the capacity to then kill it aren't run too often nowadays, especially with Stardust Dragon making players shy away from destruction effects when possible. Even in a Monarch deck, none of the three best Monarchs - Raiza, Caius, and Thestalos - let this be used (Kreis is excluded because he doesn't go in Monarch decks).[/quote'] It can't possibly be a bad thing to side this card. I've seen at least one Deck on another forum that I'm on side this card. Worst case scenario, you could Normal Summon this card if you're in a tough situation. Not that I'm saying Summoning a 2800 ATK monster that is basically a normal monster once it's on the field is a good thing, but it wouldn't be a bad thing if you were about to lose. While it is sort of situational, it can stop Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter, Snipe Hunter, Dark Armed Dragon, and Gyzarus, and those cards are used in Tier 1 Decks. If you Summoned this in response to Dark Armed Dragon's effect, would your opponent still have to remove the monster, and would the effect stop because the original target is no longer on the field? Removal is a cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Snipe Hunter was mained in more than half of the Top 16 decks at the last SJC' date=' so running into Snipe Hunter is a distinct possibility. Still, this card is a bit too situational, and most of the cards that let it be used without having the capacity to then kill it aren't run too often nowadays, especially with Stardust Dragon making players shy away from destruction effects when possible. Even in a Monarch deck, none of the three best Monarchs - Raiza, Caius, and Thestalos - let this be used (Kreis is excluded because he doesn't go in Monarch decks).[/quote'] It can't possibly be a bad thing to side this card. I've seen at least one Deck on another forum that I'm on side this card. Worst case scenario, you could Normal Summon this card if you're in a tough situation. Not that I'm saying Summoning a 2800 ATK monster that is basically a normal monster once it's on the field is a good thing, but it wouldn't be a bad thing if you were about to lose. While it is sort of situational, it can stop Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter, Snipe Hunter, Dark Armed Dragon, and Gyzarus, and those cards are used in Tier 1 Decks. If you Summoned this in response to Dark Armed Dragon's effect, would your opponent still have to remove the monster, and would the effect stop because the original target is no longer on the field? Removal is a cost. Ok, but what about the effect part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 DAD targets. That means you choose what you want to hit when you activate the effect. If your selection is no longer present on the field, tough bananas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 DAD targets. That means you choose what you want to hit when you activate the effect. If your selection is no longer present on the field' date=' tough bananas.[/quote'] Alright then. So this card is basically great side material because it can counter a lot of the cards that are used in Tier 1 Decks, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well, sort of. It's not bad, but I wouldn't personally use it. It does waste one of your opponent's DAD-bullets, but you'd be much better off using a solemn or divine wrath 99% of the time. Same goes for Gyzarus. Also, this card is useless except against the boss monsters, which means it's a dead draw a lot of the time, and then a lot of the time where it would have been useful, it's not around. If it was lv8, it would help run a Trade-In engine when it was a dead card, and would therefore be a whole lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuki ni Mau Majin Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well' date=' sort of. It's not bad, but I wouldn't personally use it. It does waste one of your opponent's DAD-bullets, but you'd be much better off using a solemn or divine wrath 99% of the time. Same goes for Gyzarus. Also, this card is useless except against the boss monsters, which means it's a dead draw a lot of the time, and then a lot of the time where it would have been useful, it's not around. If it was lv8, it would help run a Trade-In engine when it was a dead card, and would therefore be a whole lot better.[/quote'] Now to make it a dark monster so that it may be Allureable. ^_^ Other than that, the tides won't be going anywhere. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well' date=' sort of. It's not bad, but I wouldn't personally use it. It does waste one of your opponent's DAD-bullets, but you'd be much better off using a solemn or divine wrath 99% of the time. Same goes for Gyzarus. Also, this card is useless except against the boss monsters, which means it's a dead draw a lot of the time, and then a lot of the time where it would have been useful, it's not around. If it was lv8, it would help run a Trade-In engine when it was a dead card, and would therefore be a whole lot better.[/quote'] Still, Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter and Snipe Hunter are probably used often (Snipe I'm sure of, Ryko, not so sure), and this card can easily take care of them. I'm not saying it's great, but I'd like people to realize that this card isn't bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 It's most definitely not all bad, it's just not worth running in the competitive meta. Some local environments may be conducive to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 It's most definitely not all bad' date=' it's just not worth running in the competitive meta. Some local environments may be conducive to it.[/quote'] If I'm able to get one, I'll take it to locals and see how well it works. In addition to a good effect, the card has awesome art. Has Dragonic Knight been used in any Decks that have recently Top 16'd an SJC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Waitaminute, this thing doesn't even work against Snipe Hunter, just like Stardust Dragon. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Waitaminute' date=' this thing doesn't even work against Snipe Hunter, just like Stardust Dragon. >_>[/quote'] Snipe's effect targets and destroys a card, doesn't it? The same situation wouldn't apply because you could just send the card that was about to be destroyed to the Graveyard after the dice has been rolled, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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