Tickle Me Emo Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 neither its fine at 1If i had to choose 3 or 0 Id say 0 due to synchros. However I agree with above statement^ Change of Heart was banned' date=' the only difference between that and Brain Control is that you have to pay 800 Life Points. Oh noez, I haz to pae ate-honderd leif poyntz! Dis crad sux! Honestly, just ban it.[/quote'] WRONG change could control facedowns, and potentialy prevent harmul flip effects, and even turn them on your opponentWRONG, you can't change the monster battle position when you take control of it. Also lol flip effect. since when? Explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuki ni Mau Majin Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Ehehe, you guys didn't see that. Right? I still agree with Brain Control being placed at zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Lightning Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 This should be 0. Why? cause 800 life points is a small cost for a card that lets you clear an opponents monster, gain tribute or synchro fodder and have an extra attacker. For other reasoning its kinda like this: Brain Control = Premature Burial Change of Heart = Monster Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 lol i was kidding earlier obviously brain control shoudl be banned but its at least fun at 1 i think konami shoudl make a new banlist (basically atems list) and hold seperate tournoments like an advanced advanced list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 lol i was kidding earlier obviously brain control shoudl be banned but its at least fun at 1 i think konami shoudl make a new banlist (basically atems list) and hold seperate tournoments like an advanced advanced list... Or just fix the existing banlist.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 or that but thn some people like messing about with slightly less broken cards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 3. I like Aggro and Monarchs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Csent Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 ' pid='1291282' dateline='1225251097']3. I like Aggro and Monarchs. I like monster removal. Put Raigeki at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 ' pid='1291282' dateline='1225251097']3. I like Aggro and Monarchs. I like monster removal. Put Raigeki at 3. win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I wouldnt mind seeing Brain Control at 3. I wanna dominate with Monarchs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 ' pid='1291282' dateline='1225251097']3. I like Aggro and Monarchs. I like monster removal. Put Raigeki at 3. I like total control, make a Huge Revolution, with no cost, and no need for monsters and put that on 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 0 because there are much better control cards like creature swop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuki ni Mau Majin Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 0 because there are much better control cards like creature swop. Let's put Mystical Space Typhoon at 0 because they're are much better cards' date=' like Magic Jammer.[/sarcasm'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Csent Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 The whole reason the ban list was even started was to keep over-powered decks out of play. Chaos is the most notable example. Not banning Brain control on the basis that you want your deck to be broken goes against the entire reason the list exists. If you argue that it is weaker than CoH, and therefore allowable, then you are naive to the fact that Brain Control is only different in the respect of LP cost (if BC is used correctly, this is negligable) and the fact that only face-up monsters can be taken, even though your opponent will probably always have at least 1 face-up monster (if they don't, it probably means that you are winning anyway). Enemy Controller is more balanced, but also counter-intuitive, since you lose tribute fodder for tribute fodder. Though I think that BC could be fine at 1 in most decks, it's ludicrous fodder-making in some is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 The whole reason the ban list was even started was to keep over-powered decks out of play. I stopped reading there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliceBloodlust Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 1 I feel like it should stay where it is because if it was 2 or 3 it would lead to a lot of new combos that could break the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 ' pid='1291282' dateline='1225251097']3. I like Aggro and Monarchs. I like monster removal. Put Raigeki at 3. Hey, it's the reason why I think it should be at three. The game was a lot more fun with 3 Brain Control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 ' pid='1294700' dateline='1225333774']' pid='1291282' dateline='1225251097']3. I like Aggro and Monarchs. I like monster removal. Put Raigeki at 3. Hey' date=' it's the reason why I think it should be at three. The game was a lot more fun with 3 Brain Control.[/quote'] The game was a lot less broken without Syncs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 ' pid='1294700' dateline='1225333774']' pid='1291282' dateline='1225251097']3. I like Aggro and Monarchs. I like monster removal. Put Raigeki at 3. Hey' date=' it's the reason why I think it should be at three. The game was a lot more fun with 3 Brain Control.[/quote'] The game was a lot less broken without Syncs. True. In today's meta, Brain Control can't be at three because of Synchros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 ' pid='1294729' dateline='1225334395']' pid='1294700' dateline='1225333774']' pid='1291282' dateline='1225251097']3. I like Aggro and Monarchs. I like monster removal. Put Raigeki at 3. Hey' date=' it's the reason why I think it should be at three. The game was a lot more fun with 3 Brain Control.[/quote'] The game was a lot less broken without Syncs. True. In today's meta, Brain Control can't be at three because of Synchros. And if it can't be at 3, it must go to 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 ' pid='1294729' dateline='1225334395']' pid='1294700' dateline='1225333774']' pid='1291282' dateline='1225251097']3. I like Aggro and Monarchs. I like monster removal. Put Raigeki at 3. Hey' date=' it's the reason why I think it should be at three. The game was a lot more fun with 3 Brain Control.[/quote'] The game was a lot less broken without Syncs. True. In today's meta, Brain Control can't be at three because of Synchros. And if it can't be at 3, it must go to 0. That would be most logical. But, in a fair format, I think 3 would be fun. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 ' pid='1294787' dateline='1225336204']' pid='1294729' dateline='1225334395']' pid='1294700' dateline='1225333774']' pid='1291282' dateline='1225251097']3. I like Aggro and Monarchs. I like monster removal. Put Raigeki at 3. Hey' date=' it's the reason why I think it should be at three. The game was a lot more fun with 3 Brain Control.[/quote'] The game was a lot less broken without Syncs. True. In today's meta, Brain Control can't be at three because of Synchros. And if it can't be at 3, it must go to 0. That would be most logical. But, in a fair format, I think 3 would be fun. Just saying. If it was a fair format, this wouldn't even be at 1. I think 0 is perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 ' pid='1294787' dateline='1225336204']' pid='1294729' dateline='1225334395']' pid='1294700' dateline='1225333774']' pid='1291282' dateline='1225251097']3. I like Aggro and Monarchs. I like monster removal. Put Raigeki at 3. Hey' date=' it's the reason why I think it should be at three. The game was a lot more fun with 3 Brain Control.[/quote'] The game was a lot less broken without Syncs. True. In today's meta, Brain Control can't be at three because of Synchros. And if it can't be at 3, it must go to 0. That would be most logical. But, in a fair format, I think 3 would be fun. Just saying. If it was a fair format, this wouldn't even be at 1. I think 0 is perfectly fine. God, fine. In a format that I would enjoy, BC would be at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 ' pid='1294911' dateline='1225342098']' pid='1294787' dateline='1225336204']' pid='1294729' dateline='1225334395']' pid='1294700' dateline='1225333774']' pid='1291282' dateline='1225251097']3. I like Aggro and Monarchs. I like monster removal. Put Raigeki at 3. Hey' date=' it's the reason why I think it should be at three. The game was a lot more fun with 3 Brain Control.[/quote'] The game was a lot less broken without Syncs. True. In today's meta, Brain Control can't be at three because of Synchros. And if it can't be at 3, it must go to 0. That would be most logical. But, in a fair format, I think 3 would be fun. Just saying. If it was a fair format, this wouldn't even be at 1. I think 0 is perfectly fine. God, fine. In a format that I would enjoy, BC would be at 3. You can thank Synchros for screwing that over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 ' pid='1294911' dateline='1225342098']God' date=' fine. In a format that [b']I[/b] would enjoy, BC would be at 3. Why would we look at individual duelists opinions for deciding where a card should fall? We look at cold hard facts to decide stuff like this, not what number little Timmy thinks Brain Control should fall at. I mean, I like Card of Safe Return because it makes my Zombie Deck run amazing, but I'm not so blinded by it to not be able to see that CoSR is bad for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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