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I. Forbidden Cards

You cannot use these cards in your Deck, Extra Deck or Side Deck.

 

ALL-OUT ATTACKS

ARCANA FORCE EX - THE DARK RULER

ARCANA FORCE XXI - THE WORLD

ARMED SAMURAI - BEN KEI

BLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNING

BATTLE MANIA

BRAIN CONTROL

BRIONAC, DRAGON Of THE ICE BOUNDARY

BUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMA

CALL OF THE HAUNTED

CANNON SOLDIER

CARD OF SAFE RETURN

CATAPULT TURTLE

CHANGE OF HEART

CHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE END

CHAOS SORCERER

CHIMERATECH FORTRESS DRAGON

CRUSH CARD VIRUS

CONFISCATION

CUP OF ACE

CYBER JAR

CYBER-STEIN

DARK ARMED DRAGON

DARK HOLE

DARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOS

DARK STRIKE FIGHTER (Dark Dive Bomber)

DARKLORD ZERATO

DELINQUENT DUO

DEMISE, KING OF ARMAGEDDON

DESTINY HERO - DISK COMMANDER

DIMENSION FUSION

DOOMKAISER DRAGON/ASSAULT MODE

ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS

EMERGENCY TELEPORT

EXCHANGE OF THE SPIRIT

EVIL HERO DARK GAIA

EXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONE

FIBER JAR

GLADIATOR BEAST GYZARUS

GOLD SARCOPHAGUS

GRACEFUL CHARITY

HARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTER

HONEST

IMPERIAL IRON WALL

IMPERIAL ORDER

INFERNO RECKLESS SUMMON

JAR ROBBER

LAST TURN

LAST WILL

LEFT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

LEFT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

LIFE EQUALIZER

LIMITER REMOVAL

MACHINE DUPLICATION

MAGICAL SCIENTIST

MAKYURA THE DESTRUCTOR

MASS DRIVER

MEGAMORPH

MIRAGE OF NIGHTMARE

MONSTER REBORN

MORPHTRONIC BOARDON

JUDGMENT DRAGON

PAINFUL CHOICE

PHANTOM OF CHAOS

POT OF GREED

PREMATURE BURIAL

OJAMA TRIO

RAIGEKI

REINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY

RESCUE CAT

REVERSAL QUIZ

RING OF DESTRUCTION

RIGHT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

RIGHT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE

SANGAN

SINISTER SERPENT

SIXTH SENSE

SNATCH STEAL

SNIPE HUNTER

STARDUST DRAGON/ASSAULT MODE

SYSTEM DOWN

THE FORCEFUL SENTRY

THOUSAND-EYES RESTRICT

TIME SEAL

TIME WIZARD

TRAGOEDIA

TREEBORN FROG

TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS

TSUKUYOMI

UNITED WE STAND

VICTORY DRAGON

WITCH OF THE BLACK FOREST

YATA-GARASU

 

New! - All-Out Attacks. Arcana Force EX - The Dark Ruler. Arcana Force XXI - The World. Armed Samurai - Ben Kei. Battle Mania, Brain Control. Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Boundary. Cannon Soldier. Card of Safe Return. Catapult Turtle. Chimeratech Fortress Dragon. Chimeratech Overdragon. Crush Card Virus. Cup of Ace. Dark Armed Dragon. Dark Strike Fighter. Darklord Zerato. Demise, King of Armageddon. Dragon's Mirror. Doomkaiser Dragon/Assault Mode. Elemental Hero Stratos. Exodia the Forbidden One. Gladiator Beast Gyzarus. Gryphon Wing. Gold Sarcophagus. Emergency Teleport. Honest. Imperial Iron Wall. Inferno Reckless Summon. Left Arm of the Forbidden One. Left Leg of the Forbidden One. Life Equalizer. Limiter Removal. Machine Duplication. Mass Driver. Megamorph. Monster Reborn. Morphtronic Boardon. Ojama Trio. Phantom of Chaos. Reinforcement of the Army. Rescue Cat. Return from the Different Dimension. Reversal Quiz. Right Arm of the Forbidden One. Right Leg of the Forbidden One. Sangan. Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode. Snipe Hunter. System Down. Time Wizard. Tragoedia. Treeborn Frog. United We Stand.

 

The following cards are no longer Forbidden - Magician of Faith. Metamorphosis.

 

II. Limited Cards

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck, Extra Deck & Side Deck combined.

 

 

BOOK OF MOON

BREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIOR

CARD DESTRUCTION

CARD TROOPER

CEASEFIRE

CYBER DRAGON

DANDYLION

D.D. WARRIOR LADY

ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS

FISSURE

FOOLISH BURIAL

FUTURE FUSION

GIANT TRUNADE

GORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESS

GRAVITY BIND

GREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FOREST

HEAVY STORM

LEVEL LIMIT - AREA B

MAGIC CYLINDER

MAGICIAN OF FAITH

MARSHMALLON

MIND CRUSH

MIRROR FORCE

MORPHING JAR

MYSTICAL SPACE TYPHOON

NEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE

NIGHT ASSAILANT

PLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE

SCAPEGOAT

SMASHING GROUND

SPIRIT REAPER

SWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHT

THE TRANSMIGRATION PROPHECY

TORRENTIAL TRIBUTE

TRAP DUSTSHOOT

TWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTH

WALL OF REVEALING LIGHT

 

New! - Book of Moon. Foolish Burial. Magician of Faith. Plaguespreader Zombie.

 

The following cards are no longer Limited - Advanced Ritual Art. Crush Card Virus. Gold Sarcophagus. Limiter Removal. Megamorph. Monster Gate. Monster Reborn. Mystical Space Typhoon. Ojama Trio. Overload Fusion. Raiza the Storm Monarch. Reasoning. Treeborn Frog. Ultimate Offering. United We Stand.

 

III. Semi-Limited Cards

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck, Extra Deck & Side Deck combined.

 

DESTINY HERO - MALICIOUS

 

New! - Destiny Hero Malicious.

 

The following cards are no longer Semi-Limited - Everything previously Semi-Limited.

 

[spoiler=Notes: Read before Attacking Decisions]

 

OTKs were attacked by this list as much as possible, which is the reason, or part of the reason behind the banning of All-Out, Arcana Force EX - The Dark Ruler, Arcana Force XXI - The World, Ben-Kei, Cannon Soldier, Card of Safe Return, Catapult Turtle, Chimeratech, Dark Strike Fighter, Demise, Doomkaiser Assault, Evil Hero Dark Gaia, Imperial Iron Wall, Limiter Removal, Machine Duplication, Megamorph, Morphtronic Boardon, Return from the Different Dimension, Reversal Quiz, Overload Fusion, Ultimate Offering, and United We Stand.

 

Dedication Through Light and Darkness, Gryphon Wing, White Hole, Jar Robber, and Anti-Raigeki were banned as they aren't functional due to their target cards being banned and have no purpose. They make no contribution to the game.

 

Chimeratech Fortress Dragon and System Down were banned because they kill Machines, and people should be able to play any Type or Archetype they'd like.

 

Certain luck-based cards (The World, Dark Ruler, Cup of Ace, and Time Wizard) with game-altering effects should luck be your side were banned because skill-based, balanced formats are the goal at the end of the day, luck and skill cannot coexist.

 

Magician of Faith was Limited due to the fact that it's a Flip Effect monster, so it's slow enough to be fair at 1. It's also been watered down by the fact that I banhammered many of its useful targets.

 

 

Honest was banned in part to compensate for LS getting JD and DARK losing DAD, but also because it's not just LS support, but LIGHT support. It's like Magic Cylinder, but it also destroys the opposing monster, can be Summoned, isn't restricted to your opponent attacking, etc. Too versatile and powerful.

 

Plaguespreader Zombie was limited because of its versatility, you could use it to easily get a Doomkaiser, get back Plague with Doom's effect, do more stuff with Plague, etc. There's also the fact that it can be Special Summoned from the Grave so many ways other than by its own effect, and then SS'd by its own effect. Crazy bra.

 

Demise was banned and ARA was unlimited because ARA wasn't the problem, Demise was.

 

Monster Gate and Reasoning were unlimited and Phantom of Chaos was banned because Monster Gate and Reasoning weren't the problem, Phantom was.

 

Mystical Space Typhoon can now be run in threes to give players an actual chance of getting rid of all those fancy new self-protecting field spells, and cards like Royal Oppression and Summon Limit. It also gives players a chance to dodge devistating chainable traps by setting it and using it when your opponent sets a chainy.

 

Everything that was previously Semi-Limited has been Unlimited, except Book of Moon, which has been Limited, since there's no reason for them to have been Semi'd. Malicious has been Semi'd to reduce it's effectiveness, which needed to be done since the release of Synchros.

 

I used periods instead of commas to separate each card in the "New!" lists to avoid confusion due to some cards having commas in their name, like "Demise, King of Armageddon".

 

Everything else should be fairly straightforward, besides, I'm tired of writing this, so if you have any other inquiries, post 'em.

 

 

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Wow. I don’t know where to begin. Lets start with the ban cards.

 

Why are these banned?

 

ALLY OF JUSTICE - CATASTOR

BRIONAC, DRAGON Of THE ICE BOUNDARY

CANNON SOLDIER

CATAPULT TURTLE

DARK STRIKE FIGHTER (Dark Dive Bomber)

DEDICATION THROUGH LIGHT AND DARKNESS

DOOMKAISER DRAGON/ASSAULT MODE

DRAGON'S MIRROR

ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS

EMERGENCY TELEPORT

HONEST

MAGICIAN OF FAITH

MASS DRIVER

METAMORPHOSIS

MORPHTRONIC BOARDON

OJAMA TRIO

OVERLOAD FUSION

REINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY

RESCUE CAT

STARDUST DRAGON/ASSAULT MODE

TIME WIZARD

TRAGOEDIA

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Elaborate on Exodia and Metamorphosis' date=' pl0x.

 

Oh, and uselessness doesn't warrant bans last time I checked.

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That's more like it. =P

 

I suppose Metamorphosis should probably be unlimited since I banned CTD, I'mma do that. You think Exodia's banworthy? I have mixed feelings, but I suppose it is due to FTKs and that sort of thing.

 

Alright, Exodia banned, Metamorphosis unlimited. As for Dedication, it's absolutely 100% useless, the first of its kind, and so should be banned as it makes no contribution to the game.

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Elaborate on Exodia and Metamorphosis' date=' pl0x.

 

Oh, and uselessness doesn't warrant bans last time I checked.

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As for Dedication, it's absolutely 100% useless, the first of its kind, and so should be banned as it makes no contribution to the game.

If your banning cards because their usless then ban Larvae Moth and Guardian Elma.

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Wow. I don’t know where to begin. Lets start with the ban cards.

 

Why are these banned?

 

ALLY OF JUSTICE - CATASTOR Destroys anything by battle. Eh' date=' I suppose I could unlimit it. Bit iffy on this one.[/b']

BRIONAC, DRAGON Of THE ICE BOUNDARY Dark Armed Dragon.

CANNON SOLDIER OTKs

CATAPULT TURTLE OTKs

DARK STRIKE FIGHTER (Dark Dive Bomber) Think about it. >_>

DEDICATION THROUGH LIGHT AND DARKNESS Doesn't contribute to game whatsoever.

DOOMKAISER DRAGON/ASSAULT MODE OTKs

DRAGON'S MIRROR OTKs

ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS Think about it. >_>

EMERGENCY TELEPORT Free Tuner Special Summon from Deck, too much you can do there.

HONEST Refer to notes

MAGICIAN OF FAITH I unbanned it, think it's still there, I'll delete. ;)

MASS DRIVER OTKs

METAMORPHOSIS Unlimited, thanks.

MORPHTRONIC BOARDON OTKs

OJAMA TRIO OTKs

OVERLOAD FUSION Refer to notes

REINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY Think about it. >_>

RESCUE CAT Like Teleport, but worse.

STARDUST DRAGON/ASSAULT MODE Opponent basically loses if you get this out.

TIME WIZARD Refer to notes

TRAGOEDIA Think about it. >_>

 

Elaborate on Exodia and Metamorphosis' date=' pl0x.

 

Oh, and uselessness doesn't warrant bans last time I checked.

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As for Dedication, it's absolutely 100% useless, the first of its kind, and so should be banned as it makes no contribution to the game.

If your banning cards because their usless then ban Larvae Moth and Guardian Elma.

 

Elma can be Set, both can be used in turbos, Larvae can be used in it's evolution chain. (A terrible use but still a use.) They have uses. Dedication doesn't.

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ALLY OF JUSTICE - CATASTOR Destroys anything by battle. Eh' date=' I suppose I could unlimit it. Bit iffy on this one.[/b']

Any card effect gets rid of him.

 

BRIONAC' date=' DRAGON Of THE ICE BOUNDARY [b']Dark Armed Dragon.

Need to discard cards. Cards go back to hand, not destroyed.

 

CANNON SOLDIER OTKs

CATAPULT TURTLE OTKs

DOOMKAISER DRAGON/ASSAULT MODE OTKs

DRAGON'S MIRROR OTKs

MASS DRIVER OTKs

MORPHTRONIC BOARDON OTKs

OJAMA TRIO OTKs

I have 3 BEWD on the field. OTK. Ban BEWD.

 

DARK STRIKE FIGHTER (Dark Dive Bomber) Think about it. >_>

OTK' date=' I know. But being level 7 makes it a pain o get out and it only OTK if you have enough field presence and if that is the case, odds are you can win without it.

 

DEDICATION THROUGH LIGHT AND DARKNESS Doesn't contribute to game whatsoever.

Ban Larvae Moth and Guardian Elma

 

ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS Think about it. >_>

This cards only crime is that it interacts with itself improperly' date=' so it should go to 1, not 0.

 

EMERGENCY TELEPORT Free Tuner Special Summon from Deck, too much you can do there.

The worse this can do is net a Stardust. That isn't that bad since it isn't to hard to get around him.

 

REINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY Think about it. >_>

Gets you a level 4 Warrior. Please tell me the problem.

 

RESCUE CAT Like Teleport' date=' but worse.[/b']

Either this are Airbellumm goes. This gives more to the game then Airbellum so he goes, this stays.

 

STARDUST DRAGON/ASSAULT MODE Opponent basically loses if you get this out.

1) Now' date=' the opponent doesn't loss.

2) Even if that was true, if you can get this out you should win.

 

TRAGOEDIA Think about it. >_>

His control effect is a pain to use since both you and your opponent need to have the same level monster, and his second effect makes him good for synchros. I don't see a problem.

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OVERLOAD FUSION Refer to notes

TIME WIZARD Refer to notes

I'll take it your checking to see why they are their?

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ALLY OF JUSTICE - CATASTOR Destroys anything by battle. Eh' date=' I suppose I could unlimit it. Bit iffy on this one.[/b']

Any card effect gets rid of him.

 

Unlimited

 

BRIONAC' date=' DRAGON Of THE ICE BOUNDARY [b']Dark Armed Dragon.

Need to discard cards. Cards go back to hand, not destroyed.

 

Same sorta idea though, take out all opp's cards, hit them for damage. Like Darklord Zerato, his usual use is to finish the game, only he's way easier to Summon, it's totally banworthy bra.

 

CANNON SOLDIER OTKs

CATAPULT TURTLE OTKs

DOOMKAISER DRAGON/ASSAULT MODE OTKs

DRAGON'S MIRROR OTKs

MASS DRIVER OTKs

MORPHTRONIC BOARDON OTKs

OJAMA TRIO OTKs

I have 3 BEWD on the field. OTK. Ban BEWD.

 

I see your point' date=' but 3 BEWDs is like 3 Limited cards which all need 2-Tribs or to be Special Summoned by Gate/Reasoning, and you need opp to have clear field on top of that. The ones I listed OTK fairly easily. [/b']

 

DARK STRIKE FIGHTER (Dark Dive Bomber) Think about it. >_>

OTK' date=' I know. But being level 7 makes it a pain o get out and it only OTK if you have enough field presence and if that is the case, odds are you can win without it.

 

[b']It has several OTKs, and it's actually pretty easy to get out with its supporting Tuner, Black Salvo.

 

DEDICATION THROUGH LIGHT AND DARKNESS Doesn't contribute to game whatsoever.

Ban Larvae Moth and Guardian Elma

 

I already explained this. Elma and Moth have uses' date=' although bad. Elma can be Set and Turbo'd, Moth can be painfully Summoned, used in the Moth evolution chain, and Turbo'd. They're bad uses, but they're uses, Dedication has no uses.[/b']

 

ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS Think about it. >_>

This cards only crime is that it interacts with itself improperly' date=' so it should go to 1, not 0.

 

[b']It's a +1 with legs at the very least.

 

EMERGENCY TELEPORT Free Tuner Special Summon from Deck' date=' too much you can do there.[/b']

The worse this can do is net a Stardust. That isn't that bad since it isn't to hard to get around him.

 

Just because you get a Tuner from the Deck doesn't mean your forced to Tune. It's a free monster from the Deck which can be used however you'd like to, and it's a Quick-Play on top of that.

 

REINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY Think about it. >_>

Gets you a level 4 Warrior. Please tell me the problem.

 

Level 4 or lower' date=' and Warrior is the most dominant type in the game. Charge and Proving Ground are ok as they're Archetype specific, but "any LV4 or lower Warrior" is too much.[/b']

 

RESCUE CAT Like Teleport' date=' but worse.[/b']

Either this are Airbellumm goes. This gives more to the game then Airbellum so he goes, this stays.

 

What does it give to the game exactly?

 

STARDUST DRAGON/ASSAULT MODE Opponent basically loses if you get this out.

1) Now' date=' the opponent doesn't loss.

2) Even if that was true, if you can get this out you should win.

 

[b']No, your opp should still have a chance, much like with OTKs. And the opponent has no way of getting rid of this but by battle, and even if they do, you get a Stardust back.

 

TRAGOEDIA Think about it. >_>

His control effect is a pain to use since both you and your opponent need to have the same level monster' date=' and his second effect makes him good for synchros. I don't see a problem.[/quote']

 

Gorz + Brain Control + "good for synchros" goes too far.

 

HONEST Refer to notes

OVERLOAD FUSION Refer to notes

TIME WIZARD Refer to notes

I'll take it your checking to see why they are their?

 

No' date=' there's a little "Notes: Read Before Attacking Decisions" spoiler at the end of the first post which you should've read as you're attacking my decisions. =P[/b']

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OTKs were attacked by this list as much as possible' date=' which is the reason, or part of the reason behind the banning of All-Out, Arcana Force EX - The Dark Ruler, Arcana Force XXI - The World, Ben-Kei, Cannon Soldier, Card of Safe Return, Catapult Turtle, Dark Strike Fighter, Demise, Doomkaiser Assault, Dragon's Mirror, Evil Hero Dark Gaia, Imperial Iron Wall, Limiter Removal, Machine Duplication, Megamorph, Morphtronic Boardon, Return from the Different Dimension, Reversal Quiz, Overload Fusion, Ultimate Offering, and United We Stand.

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Eradicating all OTK's is an impossible goal; ergo, only eradicate the problem OTK's.

 

Dedication Through Light and Darkness was banned because it isn't functional with DMoC banned and has no purpose. It makes no contribution to the game.

 

"It's not useful" is not a valid standalone reason for banning a card.

 

Chimeratech Fortress Dragon and System Down were banned because they kill Machines' date=' and people should be able to play any Type or Archetype they'd like.

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I don't see you banning Last Day of Witch, Warrior Elimination, and the like. How do you decide when a Type Killer becomes unacceptable?

 

Overload Fusion was banned instead of Overdragon because Overdragon can still be Summoned in a variety of ways other than with Overload' date=' but Overload is too easy, as it requires no loss of card advantage and gives you a massive Chimera. Overload can also Summon Gatling and Cyberdark Dragon. Too versatile, too little a cost for what you get out of it.

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Chimeratech Overdragon is nothing more than an OTK, whether it is summoned with Power Bond or Overload Fusion. Overload Fusion has perfectly valid uses with Cyberdark Dragon and Gatling Dragon.

 

I don't see how on earth you can accuse Overload Fusion of being too versatile. It has two only three targets (counting Labyrinth Tank), and you'll very rarely find any two of them in the same deck.

 

Certain luck-based cards (The World' date=' Dark Ruler, Cup of Ace, and Time Wizard) with game-altering effects should luck be your side were banned because skill-based, balanced formats are the goal at the end of the day, luck and skill cannot coexist.

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Ban all cards.

 

No, really. 0/0 format is the only way to eliminate luck.

 

Magician of Faith was Limited due to the fact that it's a Flip Effect monster' date=' so it's slow enough to be fair at 1. It's also been watered down by the fact that I banhammered many of its useful targets.

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Why not 3?

 

Threatening Roar was Limited because it damaged Aggro severely' date=' and people should be able to play Aggro if they choose to do so. It's not banworthy though because it can prevent "swarm-'n'-gg"s. Think of it as like MF but doesn't destroy but is chainable, so should have around the same status as MF.

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Threatening Roar merely provides one turn of stall, and in the majority of cases is indistinguishable from Waboku. To say that it damages Aggro severely is ludicrous.

 

Judgment Dragon was not Banned as Dark Armed Dragon was' date=' but Limited. This was because it's Archetype support, unlike DAD which is just DARK support, and DARK doesn't need any more power.

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This is terrible logic and you should feel bad.

 

Being useful only to pop out of nowhere in a deck that relies heavily on luck anyhow is a banworthy offense.

 

Also: why not 3? Because of the 3 JDragon = OTK thing?

 

Honest was banned in part to compensate for LS getting JD and DARK losing DAD' date=' but also because it's not just LS support, but LIGHT support. It's like Magic Cylinder, but it also destroys the opposing monster, can be Summoned, isn't restricted to your opponent attacking, etc. Too versatile and powerful.

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It's not like Magic Cylinder; the damage it deals depends upon your own ATK, not the opponents. It also requires you not only to control a face-up Attack Position monster but rather to control a face-up Attack Position LIGHT monster.

 

Honest is comparable to Shrink in many ways; would you ban that?

 

Plaguespreader Zombie was limited because of its versatility' date=' you could use it to easily get a Doomkaiser, get back Plague with Doom's effect, do more stuff with Plague, etc. There's also the fact that it can be Special Summoned from the Grave so many ways other than by its own effect, and then SS'd by its own effect. Crazy bra.

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Blah blah blah, more random limits.

 

Everything that was previously Semi-Limited has been Unlimited' date=' except Book of Moon, which has been Limited, since there's no reason for them to have been Semi'd.

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I'm waiting to hear why Book of Moon was Limited, but I suspect you won't give away the secret.

 

BRIONAC' date=' DRAGON Of THE ICE BOUNDARY [b']Dark Armed Dragon.[/b]

 

Now everything that removes any cards from the field is the new Dark Armed Dragon.

 

God, you people are idiots.

 

CANNON SOLDIER OTKs

CATAPULT TURTLE OTKs

 

Ban the problem cards.

 

DEDICATION THROUGH LIGHT AND DARKNESS Doesn't contribute to game whatsoever.

 

Pointless.

 

DRAGON'S MIRROR OTKs

 

Dragon's Mirror lacks easy OTK's' date=' requires lots of setup, and has a wide variety of non-OTK uses.

 

If your problem is with F.G.D., then ban that instead.

 

ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS Think about it. >_>

 

10/10 explanation.

 

It is indeed one of the most powerful floaters in the game, but can you prove that this power is somehow unacceptable? (I'll answer for you: no, you can't because you only banned it due to its ability to tutor Malicious.)

 

EMERGENCY TELEPORT Free Tuner Special Summon from Deck' date=' too much you can do there.[/b']

 

Synchro Summons will never be difficult. Spending two cards on a Synchro Summon is not unreasonable in any way.

 

If your problem is with the Synchro Monsters, look toward them for list attention.

 

MASS DRIVER OTKs

 

Ban the problem cards.

 

MORPHTRONIC BOARDON OTKs

 

Simply due to granting direct attacks to a theme? Lightning Vortex can do largely the same thing.

 

OJAMA TRIO OTKs

 

yeahno

 

Ban All-Out Attacks and Battlemania.

 

OVERLOAD FUSION Refer to notes

 

No.

 

REINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY Think about it. >_>

 

10/10 logic. Nice job failing' date=' hero.

 

It's just good theme support.

 

RESCUE CAT Like Teleport, but worse.

 

Kill Airbellum instead.

 

TIME WIZARD Refer to notes

 

What I said earlier.

 

TRAGOEDIA Think about it. >_>

 

Stop using "Think about it" as justification.

 

Watch this: ban Exiled Force. THINK ABOUT IT LOL LOL LOL

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I am appalled by this list.

 

Thanks' date=' care to elaborate?

 

OTKs were attacked by this list as much as possible' date=' which is the reason, or part of the reason behind the banning of All-Out, Arcana Force EX - The Dark Ruler, Arcana Force XXI - The World, Ben-Kei, Cannon Soldier, Card of Safe Return, Catapult Turtle, Dark Strike Fighter, Demise, Doomkaiser Assault, Dragon's Mirror, Evil Hero Dark Gaia, Imperial Iron Wall, Limiter Removal, Machine Duplication, Megamorph, Morphtronic Boardon, Return from the Different Dimension, Reversal Quiz, Overload Fusion, Ultimate Offering, and United We Stand.

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Eradicating all OTK's is an impossible goal; ergo, only eradicate the problem OTK's.

 

What makes an OTK a problem?

 

Dedication Through Light and Darkness was banned because it isn't functional with DMoC banned and has no purpose. It makes no contribution to the game.

 

"It's not useful" is not a valid standalone reason for banning a card.

 

"It's absolutely useless" is.

 

Chimeratech Fortress Dragon and System Down were banned because they kill Machines' date=' and people should be able to play any Type or Archetype they'd like.

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I don't see you banning Last Day of Witch, Warrior Elimination, and the like. How do you decide when a Type Killer becomes unacceptable?

 

Warrior Elimination and Witch don't remove the monsters and remove from the Grave. Warrior and Witch are basically just Type-specific Raigekis, Down destroys any strategy machines could've had.

 

Overload Fusion was banned instead of Overdragon because Overdragon can still be Summoned in a variety of ways other than with Overload' date=' but Overload is too easy, as it requires no loss of card advantage and gives you a massive Chimera. Overload can also Summon Gatling and Cyberdark Dragon. Too versatile, too little a cost for what you get out of it.

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Chimeratech Overdragon is nothing more than an OTK, whether it is summoned with Power Bond or Overload Fusion. Overload Fusion has perfectly valid uses with Cyberdark Dragon and Gatling Dragon.

 

I don't see how on earth you can accuse Overload Fusion of being too versatile. It has two only three targets (counting Labyrinth Tank), and you'll very rarely find any two of them in the same deck.

 

Alright, that's fair, I'll ban Chimeratech instead.

 

Certain luck-based cards (The World' date=' Dark Ruler, Cup of Ace, and Time Wizard) with game-altering effects should luck be your side were banned because skill-based, balanced formats are the goal at the end of the day, luck and skill cannot coexist.

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Ban all cards.

 

No, really. 0/0 format is the only way to eliminate luck.

 

I may not be able to completely eliminate luck, but I can lessen luck-dependance, and less luck-dependance is good.

 

Magician of Faith was Limited due to the fact that it's a Flip Effect monster' date=' so it's slow enough to be fair at 1. It's also been watered down by the fact that I banhammered many of its useful targets.

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Why not 3?

 

Because the effect given by the Flip is a copy of any Spell in your Grave, the Flip slows it down a bit, but not enough to unlimit it.

 

Threatening Roar was Limited because it damaged Aggro severely' date=' and people should be able to play Aggro if they choose to do so. It's not banworthy though because it can prevent "swarm-'n'-gg"s. Think of it as like MF but doesn't destroy but is chainable, so should have around the same status as MF.

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Threatening Roar merely provides one turn of stall, and in the majority of cases is indistinguishable from Waboku. To say that it damages Aggro severely is ludicrous.

 

You're right, I'll unlimit.

 

Judgment Dragon was not Banned as Dark Armed Dragon was' date=' but Limited. This was because it's Archetype support, unlike DAD which is just DARK support, and DARK doesn't need any more power.

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This is terrible logic and you should feel bad.

 

Being useful only to pop out of nowhere in a deck that relies heavily on luck anyhow is a banworthy offense.

 

Also: why not 3? Because of the 3 JDragon = OTK thing?

 

You're right, I'll ban.

 

Honest was banned in part to compensate for LS getting JD and DARK losing DAD' date=' but also because it's not just LS support, but LIGHT support. It's like Magic Cylinder, but it also destroys the opposing monster, can be Summoned, isn't restricted to your opponent attacking, etc. Too versatile and powerful.

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It's not like Magic Cylinder; the damage it deals depends upon your own ATK, not the opponents. It also requires you not only to control a face-up Attack Position monster but rather to control a face-up Attack Position LIGHT monster.

 

Honest is comparable to Shrink in many ways; would you ban that?

 

Honest is a helluvalot more than Shrink. Shrink isn't a guaranteed destruction, Shrink can't be Summoned, Shrink can't be surprise Beckoning'd, Shrink isn't from hand, and lacks the element of surprise as well as the fact that it can be MST'd/dusted the turn it's set.

 

Plaguespreader Zombie was limited because of its versatility' date=' you could use it to easily get a Doomkaiser, get back Plague with Doom's effect, do more stuff with Plague, etc. There's also the fact that it can be Special Summoned from the Grave so many ways other than by its own effect, and then SS'd by its own effect. Crazy bra.

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Blah blah blah, more random limits.

 

Everything that was previously Semi-Limited has been Unlimited' date=' except Book of Moon, which has been Limited, since there's no reason for them to have been Semi'd.

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I'm waiting to hear why Book of Moon was Limited, but I suspect you won't give away the secret.

 

Chainable, negates attacks, negates effects, quickplay, and costless.

 

BRIONAC' date=' DRAGON Of THE ICE BOUNDARY [b']Dark Armed Dragon.

 

Now everything that removes any cards from the field is the new Dark Armed Dragon.

 

God, you people are idiots.

 

It's a game finisher, this's what I meant by it being DADlike.

 

CANNON SOLDIER OTKs

CATAPULT TURTLE OTKs

 

Ban the problem cards.

 

DEDICATION THROUGH LIGHT AND DARKNESS Doesn't contribute to game whatsoever.

 

Pointless.

 

No' date=' the [i']card[/i] is pointless, which is why it's banned.

 

DRAGON'S MIRROR OTKs

 

Dragon's Mirror lacks easy OTK's' date=' requires lots of setup, and has a wide variety of non-OTK uses.

 

If your problem is with F.G.D., then ban that instead.

 

[b']Alright, I'll unban Mirror.[/b]

 

ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS Think about it. >_>

 

10/10 explanation.

 

It is indeed one of the most powerful floaters in the game' date=' but can you prove that this power is somehow unacceptable? (I'll answer for you: no, you can't because you only banned it due to its ability to tutor Malicious.)

 

[b']I'll restate that it's a +1 with legs pumped with steroids known as 1800s.[/b]

 

EMERGENCY TELEPORT Free Tuner Special Summon from Deck' date=' too much you can do there.[/b']

 

Synchro Summons will never be difficult. Spending two cards on a Synchro Summon is not unreasonable in any way.

 

If your problem is with the Synchro Monsters, look toward them for list attention.

 

A free Special Summon from the Deck with no drawbacks is more of a problem than the target being a Tuner, although that is part of it, it's just a part of it.

 

MASS DRIVER OTKs

 

Ban the problem cards.

 

It IS the problem card. It has multiple OTKs.

 

MORPHTRONIC BOARDON OTKs

 

Simply due to granting direct attacks to a theme? Lightning Vortex can do largely the same thing.

 

Vortex can't take out Set monsters' date=' and Boardon can also attack lock with another copy of itself as well as OTK. SO it's a theme support Raigeki with legs which can attack lock.[/b']

 

OJAMA TRIO OTKs

 

yeahno

 

Ban All-Out Attacks and Battlemania.

 

All-Out is out' date=' I'll ban Battle Mania, and Trio STILL has OTKs from Ultimate Tyranno, etc.[/b']

 

OVERLOAD FUSION Refer to notes

 

No.

 

Okokokokok.

 

Think about it.

 

REINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY Think about it. >_>

 

10/10 logic. Nice job failing' date=' hero.

 

It's just good theme support.

 

[b']"Warrior" is not a theme. Warrior is the largest type.

 

RESCUE CAT Like Teleport' date=' but worse.[/b']

 

Kill Airbellum instead.

 

Reasoning?

 

TIME WIZARD Refer to notes

 

What I said earlier.

 

It's a Raigeki with legs' date=' it's luck-dependant.[/b']

 

TRAGOEDIA Think about it. >_>

 

Stop using "Think about it" as justification.

 

Watch this: ban Exiled Force. THINK ABOUT IT LOL LOL LOL

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I agree

 

The following cards are no longer Limited - Advanced Ritual Art. Crush Card Virus. Gold Sarcophagus. Limiter Removal. Megamorph. Monster Gate. Monster Reborn. Mystical Space Typhoon. Ojama Trio. Overload Fusion. Raiza the Storm Monarch. Reasoning. Treeborn Frog. Ultimate Offering. United We Stand.

 

Question: Were you high when you made this list?

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