Naruto

[Kakashi Hatake]

But I'm the one defending it.

By saying that the story's plot twists make less sense?

[Monkey]

DADDY!!!

 

just kidding... More like great, great granddaddy.

 

So the end of Tobi and Madara come to an end... Kishi made it sound like it was the end of the entire manga

[Tentacruel]

By saying that the story's plot twists make less sense?

than One Piece, yes. But I still say it's not the mindless mess of trolling that a lot of people are accusing people of. Most plot holes brought up by butthurt naysayers are terrible.

 

So yeah, Naruto is still good.

[Fusion X. Denver]

It's not the end of the world if he started all this over Rin (haha pun), I'd just think it'd be better if there was something a lot more deep and terrible than another love loss or whatnot. But I have faith in Kishi.

[Legend Zero]

Has the moral of Naruto become, "love makes you crazy"? Be it for your family or romantically.

 

XD

[Fusion X. Denver]

IDEA

 

Kamui's immune to time flow. Meaning if Madara was able to somehow escape to that dimension before his death and meet with Obito, that could explain how they could conspire with one another.

And that would explain how Obito would be able to power up enough to take on Minato and kill the Uchiha clan.

I could accept that, but then that'd be marking another manga that's copied the Hyperbolic Time Chamber schtick :/

[Legend Zero]

Minato doesn't seem like a person who would have not noticed it was Obito.

[Kakashi Hatake]

Minato doesn't seem like a person who would have not noticed it was Obito.

Maybe it wasn't him. Maybe Minato was actually... OBITO.

 

[Northern Sage]

Maybe it wasn't him. Maybe Minato was actually... OBITO.

 

No, not a chance. Waaay too many inconsistencies.

[Monkey]

Kishi just needs to explain

 

1) How Obito survived

2) Why he really turned into Tobi (don't give me this "I loved Rin" bullshit

[Flame Dragon]

Kishi just needs to explain

 

1) How Obito survived

2) Why he really turned into Tobi (don't give me this "I loved Rin" bullshit

My guess is Madara has everything to do with it.

[Monkey]

 

My guess is Madara has everything to do with it.

 

Oh I'm sure Madara had something to do with it.

 

Despite Kishi blatantly confirming Tobi as Obito, I still don't feel convinced. Why when every time Obito referenced himself, "I" was in quotations.

[TheComposer]

Everyone's forgetting that Madara was fighting the Kages, so if he's there now.........

 

I really hope Kishi didn't just kill every Kage.

[Flame Dragon]

Oh I'm sure Madara had something to do with it.

 

Despite Kishi blatantly confirming Tobi as Obito, I still don't feel convinced. Why when every time Obito referenced himself, "I" was in quotations.

I think its something along the lines of his body is being used by someone else, but he consented to it or w/e.

 

Everyone's forgetting that Madara was fighting the Kages, so if he's there now.........

 

I really hope Kishi didn't just kill every Kage.

When all the dead people died again they showed he ran from the fight to get the 9 tails.

[Monkey]

Everyone's forgetting that Madara was fighting the Kages, so if he's there now.........

 

I really hope Kishi didn't just kill every Kage.

 

The Kage and the rest of the Shinobi Alliance are just going to show up and backup Naruto, Bee, Kakashi, and Guy now and use the FORBIDDEN 5 KAGE SUPER ATTACK TECHNIQUE.

 

 

[Legend Zero]

What if Orochimaru/Kabuto (if he wakes up) does Edo Tensei on Rin? :o

[Phantom Roxas]

People hate Jason Todd?! When was I told?! I love the guy! D:

 

Did you ever wonder why he was killed off in the first place? People hated him even then, and DC held an event where people would call in to say whether or not they wanted him to survive. When he came back, people were upset over it. And let's not even get into Red Hood and the Outlaws, although I hear that book has seen vast improvements and has garnered some fans.

 

Chill out guys. Love can make people do some pretty crazy things. Plus, we still haven't heard the actual explanation.

 

 

But hey, if you want the plot twists to make more sense, you're reading the wrong manga.

 

 

No seriously, go read One Piece.

 

Sure, but first, you must read Beelzebub.

 

Kishi just needs to explain

 

1) How Obito survived

2) Why he really turned into Tobi (don't give me this "I loved Rin" bullshit

 

"I loved Rin" somewhat works for me. He's blaming Kakashi because Obito trusted him to take of her, and Kakashi failed him.

 

Maybe THAT is how Kakashi got the Mangekyo?

[Tentacruel]

I'd buy the hyperbollic time chamber thing.

 

 

I also think that the reason Minato didn't recognize his chakra is because of the Zetsu chakra interfering.

[Kakashi Hatake]

Guys, can they really sense who each other are just by chakra? I mean, I don't think they can. If they could, Minato or Kakashi would've noticed Obito. You guys just seem like you're taking the idea from DBZ.

[Legend Zero]

Guys, can they really sense who each other are just by chakra? I mean, I don't think they can. If they could, Minato or Kakashi would've noticed Obito. You guys just seem like you're taking the idea from DBZ.

I'm taking reference from Naruto and Sasuke's fight. The whole "understanding each other through fists".

 

Also, Bee does it quite often.

 

 

Edit: Wasn't Karin able to sense the Raikage at the Summit, even though they had never met?

[Kakashi Hatake]

I'm taking reference from Naruto and Sasuke's fight. The whole "understanding each other through fists".

I just assumed that was a one time bullsh*t thing because Sasuke is a f**- er, I mean a not very good character.

 

Also, Bee does it quite often.

Really? I haven't noticed. :I

 

Edit: Wasn't Karin able to sense the Raikage at the Summit, even though they had never met?

I really never read any of that part of the series. I pretty much started reading bits and pieces then stopped for a while then started again way later around the beginning of the war and I still knew what the hell was going on with everyone.

[TheComposer]

Only Naruto was able to sense everybody's chakra when he noticed Kakashi's was missing during the fight with pain while he was in Sage mode. So I only think people with sage mode (or sensory types) can tell people apart by chakra.

[Kakashi Hatake]

Only Naruto was able to sense everybody's chakra when he noticed Kakashi's was missing during the fight with pain while he was in Sage mode. So I only think people with sage mode (or sensory types) can tell people apart by chakra.

Every Dragon Ball Z-fighter is a Sennin.

[PrimalFear]

Suspension of disbelief would let me beleive that people can have special powers or that a damaged body can be fixed. It doesn't let me beleive that the eye could survive being crushed since even though the characters have magical powers they are still are susceptible to things that can damage/kill normal people.

 

You guys are still not seeing what I was saying earlier..... If Tobi is really obito, that means Obito also has the power of traveling to the other demension. His right side would never have been crushed but from the outside no one would be able to tell the difference.

[Kakashi Hatake]

You guys are still not seeing what I was saying earlier..... If Tobi is really obito, that means Obito also has the power of traveling to the other demension. His right side would never have been crushed but from the outside no one would be able to tell the difference.

Yes, but to do that he had to have the Mangekyou sharingan which I highly doubt that he unlocked the Mangekyou ten minutes after awakening his sharingan for the first time ever. Also, how do you explain the scars now and the blood that was coming out of him when he was crushed?