CrabHelmet Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 FORBIDDEN, PROHIBITED, AND BANNED Black WhirlwindBrain ControlBrionac, Dragon of the Ice BoundaryCold WaveCrush Card VirusDark Armed DragonDark Strike FighterGladiator Beast GyzarusHeavy StormJudgment DragoonMind ControlMonster RebornRescue Cat I would totally play with these changes to the list. EDIT: I lied, that's eleven bans. >_> Counting is not my specialty. EDIT EDIT: Now it's thirteen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I could live with that.As long as I have Delta Crow as an option, I fine with banning Heavy.DAD, and Reborn, not so sure about that though. I favor the banning of JD, DSF, and CCV though. I've seen LS go without JD before anyway. And GBs still have Heraklinos.Judgment DragoonI would say spelling isn't a specialty either <.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Sure, but let's consider what'd happen. Only Decks are BWs and Anti-Meta. =/ I would say spelling isn't a specialty either <.< Crab likes OCG counterparts of most names, but apparently not those of Gyzarus or Dark Strike Fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I find all 11 of those cards annoying, so I can say that I agree with your decisions. Though I don't know if it would necessarily fix the meta. Judge would be a big blow to LS, but they could still be deadly even without it. I've seen them OTK many time without it. I really don't like the auto-trigger effects and giant lucksack factor of LS…But I dunno', there isn't really a way to see the meta would effectively change with those cards banned. Judgment DragoonI would say spelling isn't a specialty either <.<I don't really remember, but I think that was its Japanese name. And Crab likes Japanese stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Sure' date=' but let's consider what'd happen. [b']Only Decks are BWs [/b]I fail to see what is wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Sure' date=' but let's consider what'd happen. [b']Only Decks are BWs [/b]I fail to see what is wrong with that. Less variation=Not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Sure' date=' but let's consider what'd happen. [b']Only Decks are BWs [/b]I fail to see what is wrong with that. ...and Anti-Meta, which would probably come out a bit stronger due to the way in which they tend to shutdown BWs. Obviously it's a problem because variety of Decktypes is one of the main goals in a banlist. Y'know, giving Decks a chance to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Sure' date=' but let's consider what'd happen. [b']Only Decks are BWs [/b]I fail to see what is wrong with that. Less variation=Not goodTrue, butBlackwings = Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I like all but monster reborn, since then I wouldn't have an easy to use revive spell in my deck, but I could live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I like all but monster reborn' date=' since then I wouldn't have an easy to use revive spell in my deck, but I could live with that.[/quote']Super generic auto-staples aren't good. There is a lot of less effective but more balanced generic revival to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Sure' date=' but let's consider what'd happen. [b']Only Decks are BWs [/b]I fail to see what is wrong with that. Less variation=Not goodTrue, butBlackwings = Good Yes, but, having them as the only decktype would be a horribly boring meta until a new archetype came alongI would love to see Fortune Ladies and Dark World to be meta, but they dont have the support in the TCG >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Cold WaveMind Control Hm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy820 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 COLD WAVE?????MIND CONTROL???Are you really serious?tell me this is a joke.These cards are situational and last only for a turn, usually to stop YOU from playing that annoying @$$ mirror force, or for a synchro summon. Are you telling me that these cards are actually destroying the strategiies you make in duels? if you are, then you sir, are a noob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Cold WaveMind Control Hm?We still have Trap Stun to replace C-Wave, but for Control, ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 COLD WAVE?????MIND CONTROL???Are you really serious?tell me this is a joke.These cards are situational and last only for a turn' date=' usually to stop YOU from playing that annoying @$$ mirror force, or for a synchro summon. Are you telling me that these cards are actually destroying the strategiies you make in duels? if you are, then you sir, are a noob.[/quote'] Mind Control can easily pull off Synchros and Cold Wave stops the game to a near halt for a turn.Neither need to be banned IMO, but I can understand his reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I like all but monster reborn' date=' since then I wouldn't have an easy to use revive spell in my deck, but I could live with that.[/quote']Super generic auto-staples aren't good. There is a lot of less effective but more balanced generic revival to use. what can I use to revive magical exemplar from the grave to field by way of a spell? (this would never actually happen in my deck, I protect exemplar with damn near everything I have since she can do impossible come backs more than most other monsters I run. {aka, one way or another, she summons arcanite and then helps clear the field.} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Heavy Storm and Mind Control need explanations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I love how Crab just leaves. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 DAD' date=' and Reborn, not so sure about that though. [/quote'] Insert your favourite insult here. Everyone, take two sips. Judgment DragoonI would say spelling isn't a specialty either <.< I use whichever name I prefer. If I think the TCG name sounds better' date=' I use that; if I think the OCG name sounds better, I use that. Naturally, this leads to huge inconsistencies, like referring to the archetype as "Lightlords" but to its members by their TCG names, but I don't care. >.> Sure, but let's consider what'd happen. Only Decks are BWs and Anti-Meta. =/ Blackwings lose a lot of the cards they like here, such as DAD and CCV, but there was a twelfth card I was considering adding earlier, so I may as well throw that on the list as well. I find all 11 of those cards annoying' date=' so I can say that I agree with your decisions. Though I don't know if it would necessarily fix the meta. Judge would be a big blow to LS, but they could still be deadly even without it. I've seen them OTK many time without it. I really don't like the auto-trigger effects and giant lucksack factor of LS…But I dunno', there isn't really a way to see the meta would effectively change with those cards banned.[/quote'] I dislike Lightlords' reliance on random mill, but Judgment Dragoon is obviously the biggest problem with them. If there's another problem with them, it's Wulf... but again, this is just a short list to try to kill off the most obvious and immediate problems with the game, not a full list of every change I'd like to see. variety of Decktypes is one of the main goals in a banlist. Only to the extent that variety promotes skill; beyond that' date=' card design is responsible. Of course, a lack of variety reduces the need for adaptability and proper siding, so there is some vested interest in having variety. I like all but monster reborn, since then I wouldn't have an easy to use revive spell in my deck, but I could live with that. Pssh, selfishness. Cold WaveMind Control Hm? Short explanation: Cold Wave - GO OTK SWARM GO Mind Control - It's Change of Heart nowadays. Longer explanations are available if you want them' date=' but I have a couple changes to make first. Heavy Storm and Mind Control need explanations. You want an explanation for Heavy Storm, but you don't want an explanation for Cold Wave? That alone is sufficient for me to deny you any explanation. I love how Crab just leaves. xD Hey' date=' I'm busy playing Super Mario Bros. Those stupid Hammer Bros keep killing me. >_< Two cards added to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangePeel Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Rescue Cat? I thought you wanted X-Saber Airbellum to be banned becuase it brought less to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Rescue Cat? I thought you wanted X-Saber Airbellum to be banned becuase it brought less to the game. I did. Then I changed my mind. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 inb4 SynchroDuelist rages at Black Whirlwind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I support the banning of Rescue Cat, Brionac, Black Whirlwind, and everything else there. I think more bans could help though. Like Demise. And Coel. And stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Heavy Storm and Mind Control need explanations. You want an explanation for Heavy Storm' date=' but you don't want an explanation for Cold Wave? That alone is sufficient for me to deny you any explanation.[/quote'] Leaving me with my dignity still intact and still not caring about what you say itt until you explain yourself. ;) It's also amusing that people are constantly making new "banlists" although we (should) know it won't affect Konami one bit. (I'm returning so you can massively quote me with more ease.) Cold Wave - GO OTK SWARM GO Mind Control - It's Change of Heart nowadays. Nvm. I got it. *facepalm* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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