Infinitus Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 HOw many of them play even a semi-important role in the original FFVII game?thats what I thought.Sure Aerith saved the world' date=' but she still died. Stabbed in the back none theless.So? I'm pretty sure if you were wearing metal knuckles yours could too.[/quote'] 1. How can you immediately say that when I didn't even reply? Second, everything they did led up to the events in FFVII. Third, I meant the entire FFVII universe. Not just the original game. 2. If you were stabbed in the back by Sephy's sword you'd die too. 3. Thing is, she is an amazing brawler, if you've seen her fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Please, the ultimate spells came from the black and white materia, their power hardly enters it when they just used a pretty stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitus Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Please' date=' the ultimate spells came from the black and white materia, their power hardly enters it when they just used a pretty stone.[/quote'] Which Sephiroth and Aerith know how to use. They are the only ones who use it. Therefore, Aerith and Sephiroth can use Meteor and Holy, because they know how to use the materia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Oh yes, we really must say that they know the magic because they can wield pretty shiny stones, I'm sure everyone in FFX can't use Holy can they? Or Rosa in IV can't either. Oh, how stupid of me when Rydia, Palom and Telah can't use Meteor, oh, how obviously stupid of me to think that they can't use those spells because they don't have a shiny rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitus Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Oh yes' date=' we really must say that they know the magic because they can wield pretty shiny stones, I'm sure everyone in FFX can't use Holy can they? Or Rosa in IV can't either. Oh, how stupid of me when Rydia, Palom and Telah can't use Meteor, oh, how obviously stupid of me to think that they can't use those spells because they don't have a shiny rock.[/quote'] Thing is, their Holies and Meteors could not destroy the world. They were spells and attacks that everybody openly used. THESE, are spells that can destroy the world. In other words, these are the more badass versions of Holy and Meteor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larxene Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I BEAT OMEGA WEAPON IN FFVIII. I AM SUPER PLAYER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 How can they be a more badass version when they have the exact same bloody name? Really grasping for straws aren't you? Look, if those characters were plopped into that world, they would be able to destroy/protect the world because they know the spell, without a shiny rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitus Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I BEAT OMEGA WEAPON IN FFVIII. I AM SUPER PLAYER. LOOK, IT'S A MAGE! NO, IT'S A WARRIOR! NO, IT'S, SUPER PLAYER! HER GODSWORD OF THE VOID INCREASES HER ATK BEYOND 9999, WHICH IS UNHEARD OF BY ANY OTHER USER! SHE CAN EVEN USE THE GREAT END SPELL THAT IS SO POWERFUL IT LAGS THE SERVER! EDIT: No, they can't, because in the FFVII game, you NEED the rocks to use those spells. Second, all the FF's aren't in the same universe, so there are LOTS of spells that are different and have the same name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 What, so in their world, they know a powerful spell, but suddenly having them in another universe where rocks are used to cast magic makes them suddenly forget their hard earned magic? Pigs arse matey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitus Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 What' date=' so in their world, they know a powerful spell, but suddenly having them in another universe where rocks are used to cast magic makes them suddenly forget their hard earned magic? Pigs arse matey.[/quote'] There is a difference between their Holies and Meteors and FFVII's Holies and Meteors... FFVII's Holies and Meteors destroy and save the world. Don't give the the whole "IT'S THE SAME NAME" bull again, because for the last time, because they are different universes, THEY ARE DIFFERENT SPELLS. JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SAME NAME, DOESN'T MEAN THEY DO THE SAME THING. FFVII's universe, FFVII's rules. When they take a wrong turn on Cid Ave., and end up in FFVII, then they play by FFVII rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Right, so then, they happen to know the spell with said same name, then upon entering the universe of FFVII, the nature of the spell changes to match it, so Telah then could bring about the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitus Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Right' date=' so then, they happen to know the spell with said same name, then upon entering the universe of FFVII, the nature of the spell changes to match it, so Telah then could bring about the end of the world.[/quote'] No. She doesn't have the Black Materia. His/Her Meteor Spell =/= Black Materia Meteor Spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 That doesn't work, because the Materia activates the Meteor spell, therefore, anyone possessing the Mteor spell would do the same thing, you said yourself that the effects of the spell change to suit the universe, therefore, anyone knowing the meteor spell and casting it in the FFVII universe would cast the dommsday spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted January 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Pretty sure I should be a Gambler by now. I joined on the 31st. http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-161021-page-199.html Promoted. So here's something I just came up with while having an MSN convo with Midnight Thief. Xemnas: We must find Mary Sue. Her pure' date=' perfect, flawless, uncorruptable heart is sure to fuel Kingdom Hearts.[/quote'] That would most probably be the most Crazy Awesome Star Trek/Kingdom Hearts crossover ever. That reminds me, do you have a link to that Star Trek fanfic? Here it is. ;D I refuse to accept any possibility that that was meant to be taken seriously. Yeah. Ill join for the THIRD time. Name (The name you would like to be called in this club): AxelSpecies (Heartless/Nobody?): NobodySquare Enix games you've played/own: All but BBS. STAY. ACTIVE. I'm going on neutral ground. You get pretty inactive, but that seems to be you're only fault. I'm leaving this to Amethyst and Nexev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexaeon Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Sorry, Awesome, but FFVIII wins. Everyone in the game is trained from a young age to be a combat specialist. They have a large variety of powerful characters, and one of the most powerful Villains in the series. On top of that, both the Black and White Materia required an INSANELY long charge time to take effect. Time that Aerith did not have, and time that Sephiroth only had because a twist of fate put him in the heart of the planet's defenses. On top of that, if you wanna get technical with the things every character can do, VIII wins solely because of Selphie. The End anyone? Or even X's Yojimbo. Zanmatou. Or even still, II has the Destroy Magic, which Deumion has access to. Those three are the only moves in the series that can instantly kill ANY ENEMY, including even Bosses, no questions asked. Moving on, SOLDIER really isn't as awesome as everyone seems to think - Nomura just likes to beat his VII-fanboyism over everyone else's heads. I mean, they ARE powerful, and have had injections from VII's equivalent of Steroids, which also happens to be Sephiroth's Mommy, but the only one with supernaturally noteworthy powers is Sephiroth. Genesis didn't get his till after his Power Up. Next, we have VI - Terra is half esper, and wields supernatural powers most games can't compete with. And if it's game against game, Kefka is going to be on her side, as well as everyone else's. Yeah. God of Magic. Now, why the hell would anyone think XII would win? Espers aside, that game has probably the least amount of supernatural elements. There really is no special powers or abilities that anyone has that can give the game a competitive edge against the others. Every game has Summons, many of who outclass the ones in XII, and Vayne's final form, while supernatural, could still be defeated by non-supernatural individuals. Sorry, XII loses. The Bottom line is that II, VIII, and X have the biggest edge simply because of the OHKO moves their characters have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 FFVI or FFX would win. FFVI has a God Clown and FFX has a world-destroying God Whale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 good point, I agree.FFVI wins, followed by FFVIII (because I'm more familiar with that game), then FFX comes in at a close thrid, with FFIV tkaing the forth position, number five would be FFVII and lastly on my list sixth would belong to FFV, because it has a tree for a final boss. Plus it has Omega and Shinryu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted January 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Quickenings. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larxene Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Quickenings aren't that great. I haven't played II enough to know, but the OHKO moves in VIII and X are extremely random and hard to get. In a real fight they wouldn't be all that practical. Yes, it does give them an edge, but not so much so that it'd be impossible for anyone else to win. So yeah. God of Magic again. So I add VI to the list of games that win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitus Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Sorry' date=' Awesome, but FFVIII wins. Everyone in the game is trained from a young age to be a combat specialist. They have a large variety of powerful characters, and one of the most powerful Villains in the series. On top of that, both the Black and White Materia required an INSANELY long charge time to take effect. Time that Aerith did not have, and time that Sephiroth only had because a twist of fate put him in the heart of the planet's defenses. On top of that, if you wanna get technical with the things every character can do, VIII wins solely because of Selphie. The End anyone? Or even X's Yojimbo. Zanmatou. Or even still, II has the Destroy Magic, which Deumion has access to. Those three are the only moves in the series that can instantly kill ANY ENEMY, including even Bosses, no questions asked. Moving on, SOLDIER really isn't as awesome as everyone seems to think - Nomura just likes to beat his VII-fanboyism over everyone else's heads. I mean, they ARE powerful, and have had injections from VII's equivalent of Steroids, which also happens to be Sephiroth's Mommy, but the only one with supernaturally noteworthy powers is Sephiroth. Genesis didn't get his till after his Power Up. Next, we have VI - Terra is half esper, and wields supernatural powers most games can't compete with. And if it's game against game, Kefka is going to be on her side, as well as everyone else's. Yeah. God of Magic. Now, why the hell would anyone think XII would win? Espers aside, that game has probably the [i']least[/i] amount of supernatural elements. There really is no special powers or abilities that anyone has that can give the game a competitive edge against the others. Every game has Summons, many of who outclass the ones in XII, and Vayne's final form, while supernatural, could still be defeated by non-supernatural individuals. Sorry, XII loses. The Bottom line is that II, VIII, and X have the biggest edge simply because of the OHKO moves their characters have. Then VII would be in fourth for the sheer badassery of Supernova.That doesn't work' date=' because the Materia activates the Meteor spell, therefore, anyone possessing the Mteor spell would do the same thing, you said yourself that the effects of the spell change to suit the universe, therefore, anyone knowing the meteor spell and casting it in the FFVII universe would cast the dommsday spell.[/quote'] That's not what I meant. When I said that they change to suit the universe, I meant that the only way to use a Meteor or Holy is via the Materia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted January 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 So I was going to post the roleplay thread, but then I decided to put the opening post here first. Organization XIII - Convergence of Reality It has only been over a year since the fall of Zero. The chaos he had unleashed upon the worlds seemed over, but it was too late. The worlds began to collide, their realities changing, even mixing. History itself became warped, trying to make everything the same. Ultimately, the worlds themselves had restarted themselves. The Veil had shattered, and all of reality can become one. Few retained knowledge of the worlds once being separate. People formed "guilds", as they all subconsciously befriended those they knew in their past existence. In the country of Fiore, there is a certain guild. Those who have lost their hearts to the darkness, but have retained the human form, gathered together to form Organization XIII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Awshum. I like the way you fit Fairy Tail in there. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Cool, that could work. It's less planned out to make it die. We also need an application apparently though. @Zexion: Maybe that's just it, they rely on machinery that almost no one else has. Plus they had to live without magic, they probably are more powerful than the other worlds as a result of this path in evolution, you just can't tell since the other foes have the same advantage. Plus in FFXII you have to consider the god like Occuria who can probably beat anybody since their are like 12 of them. So XII wins, following is XI due to sheer numbers of relativly strong people, X's third with Sin, IV with Babil and Zeromunus (who is invincible unless you know he right trick), then VIII with Ultimecia, IX with Alexander and the super Ultima spell, III with the immortal CoD, II since Emperor conquered everything while you weren't looking, V sine Exdeath is REALLY hard to kill plot wise, I since they can use time travel to lay down the smack down and the Omega random encounter, finally VII. But once XIV comes it it reaches the top since it will have me and Zex XD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted January 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 The application can simply be a list of characters you want. Fairy Tail is one my most favorite series, so I'd love to try and fit it in. I'll just take Gray, Jubia, and Gérard if we manage to include the Fairy Tail guild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I don't feel like participating in the RP. Somebody else can have Sephiroth and Xemnas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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