=YCM= An Interview

[Guest JoshIcy]

Seeing as I'm having a particular time playing all this by ear (as some facts are just impossible to figure out without asking directly). This thread will be posted.

 

I basically need each of you to post your ideals for Custom Cards, and how you can see it improve upon what it is. This requires you to post a little about each section, and what you can see to be done that will improve it.

 

Also your stance on OCG and Creativity, their placement and the like. Is a must.

And yes... This is an interview. For what? You'll have to wait and see. And please... No discussion.

[.Leo]

So I we apply for interview? If so, I'm in this.

[Guest JoshIcy]

So I we apply for interview? If so' date=' I'm in this.

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Just post. The second paragraph and first sentence of the third IS the interview.

[Sander]

Realistic Section:

 

My ideals of the cards in Realistic Section are that they must be done good. Not perfect, just good. You'll be able to start perfecting your cards when you reach the level of "good". OCG and all that nonsense is all a waste of time in my opinion. Sure, it's to make the cards look more professional, but the meaning of "OCG" or as you call it, "Official Cards Grammar", has lost it's meaning. Nowadays, they only say "OCG error" and then leave. If this is the case in all threads, just get rid of OCG.

 

Creativity is another thing. It's essential. Without creativity, the cards in this section will be dull and repetitive. But, creativity has to stay in the boundaries of the OCG (Official Card GAME). Any idea that is so out from it, are hard to rate and comment on.

 

In conclusion, my ideals for OCG is that, the OCG doesn't have to be perfect, just understandable; my ideals for creativity is that, be creative, but don't overdo it.

 

Pop Culture Section:

 

I wasn't ever really into the Pop Culture Section, because I find it, well, silly to make cards about Anime characters, Games etc. but, I've still made cards based on Anime characters in the past.

 

My ideals for Pop Culture are that, if you're going to make a card about an Anime character or Game characters, just do it right and try to get it matching with the personality of said character.

 

Any Other Cards Section:

 

I don't have any ideals on this said section, as I don't visit it. There couldn't be any ideals on it, as it's there for cards that don't fit in section like Pop Culture or Realistic Cards.

 

Written Cards Section

 

What's there to say? Other than the fact that there aren't any pictures for those cards in this said section, it's just another Realistic Cards Section, but only not that popular. So, my ideals are the same with this section as with the Realistic Cards Section.

 

Card Contests

 

If you're going to start a contest, then don't just leave it. I've seen too many half-assed contests in that section that have never been finished. Mostly the problem is that, inexperienced members of YCM (newbies), made those contests.

 

My ideals for this section is that, if you're making a contests, stick by it and don't cancel it for god knows what reasons, get judges (preferably members who are neutral and not biased) and most of all, don't be biased yourself. It always infuriates me to see bad cards top good cards simply from bias.

[.Leo]

Realistic Cards

 

Realistic Cards is interesting. The fact that every day it seems to be loaded with posts almost annoys me. Realistic Cards is probably where spam generates the easiest. I have seen posts with just number rates. No real constructive critsism.

 

For me we should move Rating in Realistic Cards to CnC instead of rating. This will help RC become more of a Helpful place.

 

OCG (Official Card Grammar) makes a card look professional but it provides stupid answers in Rates. Posts that say people have an OCG error and not defining it is rather stupid tbh.

 

Creativity is probably one of the biggest parts of a card. The way you think out a card makes it all the more useful if released in the TCG (Trading Card Game) and OCG (Official Card Game).

 

Pop Culture

 

This isn't much different from Realistic Cards. There are a lot less posts and Threads made more posts made per day, thus making it more of a Spam free place. I have not be to Pop Culture for a while so I wouldn`t know that much.

 

Any Other Cards

 

Not been there much. When I have gone there ever now and then I see stupid Joke Cards. I think Joke Cards should be banned form the Forum entirely. This includes locking the Joke Card Thread. This could help the removal of Joke Cards.

 

Written Cards

 

This is probably where Card Making is made best at. For serious, the people there know how to rate and always leave good comments. I find it a better Realistic Cards, without pics ;P

 

Card Contests

 

With improvements in Card Contest we are moving in the Right Direction.

 

The problem I still see lingering is rating and judging the cards. My suggestion is to make manditory some kinda of Grading Scheme to rate the cards on. If your best friend for example joined your contest, would you pick him versus someone you hate even if they have the better card? That is the problem I see right now.

 

For 1 on 1s make it manditory to give a detailed explanation or something like that. It will make the User go "In Depth" on the Card when rating. It woud provide a little bit more unbiased opinions I think.

[Dark Mousy]

Realistic Section:

 

I am in full support of the Advance Clause equivalent for RC. As I have said already. I believe in the Smogon ideals. Well, one doesn't need to go so far. Smogon, have professional raters (of pokemon teams and sets) who are trained by a School, similar to the Highlander School of RP here.

 

My ideal for OCG is that while it makes cards more professional, but, it cuts down on the creativity of a specific card. Fear of OCG mistakes limits many card maker’s possibility in creating something entirely new, and not defined in the scope of the current OCG.

 

I believe the creation of a Card Rater’s School would be the most beneficial to this section.

 

Pop Culture Section:

 

Not much to say really. Where most people get started, and it should stay that way. But, in my opinion this section is extraneous. As most Pop Culture cards are realistic ones in their own respect.

 

Any Other Cards Section:

 

I like Le Createur’s idea. This section needs to see some use. It’s a quiet forum for those who want to deviate from the norm. Ex. Fake Types.

 

Written Cards Section

 

This is the pure form of card making. I have no objections here.

 

Card Contests

 

Card Contests needs to be strictly regulated. My creating of The Organization is a first step. Although I have been flamed many times for it being elitist, honestly, not many contests, even by experienced members, finish.

 

Even if they do finish, a lot of the better players who deserved it had dropped out because it took too long. Again, I must stress strict regulation is required.

[Nexev]

Realistic card:

 

It's a must as these are what the Card maker was originally for.

 

Pop culture:

 

It's cool and makes sense. The funnny thing is some Pop culture cards exist in Yugioh but that's a minor detail.

 

Any other cards:

 

I don't see the point of this besides fake types and menber cards. But those are fun and cool and stuff so it should stay up or you allow fake types in real with them adding a FT tag and you send menber cards to pop culture.

 

Written cards

 

This is good and stuff. It lets you read the effects of wordy monsters and is pretty convinent. Especially if you forgot to read the rules and don't know how to make your own cards.

 

CArd Contests:

 

They allow arguments to be disputed like the Colusium. IT is also usen in enjoyment, like the collusium.

 

And it has a lion, again like the collusium.

 

Maybe we should wear gladiator hemets.

 

Anyway I think thier should be a club dedicated to be fair unbiased card judges in these contests.

 

But that's kindof silly.

 

But I might make it anyway.

[έκλειψη]

Realistic Cards

I'm new, thus I can't really critique this much without feeling arrogant. I do know, however, that people tend to make extremely... Unimpressive cards there. For what could be done to improve that, I think all new members, including me, should tag our threads, preventing members who don't wish to come across a train wreck of OCG errors from ever wasting their time. After getting three stars, I think the tag should disappear. That, or after a total twenty-four hours or more of online activity. I also agree with DM about adopting the advanced clause, as hypocritical of me as it sounds.

 

Pop Culture Cards

This section is fine; I don't visit it much, and threads vary in effort just as Realistic Cards. I think things shouldn't really be altered here, but I have only been there twice, so perhaps others could say otherwise.

 

Any Other Cards

Yeah... This is just to kill time, I suppose. I say posts in here shouldn't count, but...

 

Written Cards

These tend to be well thought out, and that is great. I think this doesn't require much change, as it's simply a place for cards without images to be posted and rated; a text version of Realistic Cards. This often requires more dedication than RC, as without an amazing image, you won't receive cheap votes.

 

Card Contests

Annoying. Many people will start a contest to disappear when the time comes for prizes, or they let members post and forget about it. That's frustrating; we don't want to make cards, keep them off of RC for a week, and then find out the contest host left. The Organization is a brilliant idea to start the reconstruction of this board; perhaps members proven active (Having a Post Per Day average of x or higher) should only be allowed to start contests. This isn't as accurate as can be, but it would be a start.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Realistic Cards

 

I have noting against creativity, I find it grand. However, "Realistic Cards" would be better off actually being as labeled. Realistic. That being said, OCG should be as close as possible to the latest examples of texts which we've seen before. For what we haven't, sure, make something up.

 

What I'd like to see in Realistic Cards are Cards that Konami could plausibly release tomorrow without any major problems. I'd like to see thought, prudence, and care taken in making cards.

 

Any Other Cards

 

Simply put, there's no reason whatsoever for this section to exist.

 

Written Cards

 

Beautiful section, everything goes over well, great ideas are put forth, standards are high, the totally useless elements of card making (pictures and flashy effects) don't exist.

 

Card Contests

 

I avoid entering contests much as I can. Cesspool of bias and poor methods of evaluation, if evaluation even exists, where in many cases it doesn't. Somebody has to show these fools how to judge cards. Many somebodies have to change the standard as what we're to eat up as proper judging and have poor judging frowned upon at the very least.

[Brittle Ice]

OK. Here you go.

 

 

Realistic Cards Section:

 

The main problem with this section is that too many threads get created. An inspired new member will probably make about 3-4 new threads every day. This makes the entire section look messy.

It would be a good idea to have your own card archive. Consequently, this would make the section tidier.

Now, the problem that is bound to occur with the concept is that you will often bump into a thread with 20+ cards in it. This could be solved by putting a limit of having 6-8 cards in your thread at a time. If one would like to add some new cards, they would have to remove the older ones first.

 

The second problem is people's comments. Instead of being constructive, users seem to be chasing the post count, some even being rather rude to new members. They don't positively contribute to threads. On the contrary, all they do is discourage other members.

The authers of too short ("Cool card, bro.", the end) or rude ("fail/10") comments should be punished.

 

Also, there are lots of the OCG mistakes. Now, I know that many people consider the OCG useless or irrelevant, but it is a part of a card, just like balance, effect and similar. Sure, it isn't as important as user's creativity, but it should be counted when giving your final rating.

Although Junk Raver made a thread about the OCG, not many seem to be using it. Pitiful.

 

As for the creativity, I consider it the most important part of a card. You can find a perfect image, you can have someone correct your OCG, but creativity makes the difference between bad and good card maker.

 

Pop Culture Cards Section:

 

This section is the same as the realistic cards section. The only difference is the choice of images, nothing else.

So, all the rules that apply to the RC section, should apply here, as well.

 

Any Other Cards Section:

 

Frankly, I have no idea what this section is about.

The cards that get posted here vary from the joke ones to cards that are perfectly acceptable in the realistic cards section.

 

Written Cards Section:

 

This section functions very well.

You don't have to spend your time waiting for images to upload (which is especially useful when people make entire sets) and I believe that most of the quality cards are created here.

*thumbs up

 

Card Contests Section:

 

Most contests take too much time to end or actually never do. Users lack the organizational skills. Also, many ridiculous contests get created (I remember that "Create the most OP'd monster" one).

I suggest that we make a special thread where people could post their contest's concept. A special party made of qualified members should consider it and, if they approve, the user is allowed to post their thread.

 

[Sploda]

Realistic Section:

This is where card makers should come to show off what they consider their best work. Only those who have above average OCG should post cards here as it is a must in order to understand the card. I support an advanced restriction being placed on Realistc in order for above average card makers to be able to recive constructive critcism and not just a "8/10 good job."

Pop Culture:

Honestly I don't see why these can't be put into AoC as most end up there anyways. If this were to become a sub-section I think it would be of more use.

Any Other Cards

This place has become a spamhole because all New members post here and most cards need alot of help. There is a Joke card thread but I believe it would be more useful as a sub-section, and Pop Culture should be moved under AoC as well. I also propose a "Pre-Realistic" sub-section for AoC for card makers that are getting better, but are still using out of date OCG and Pictures that wouldn't be useable.

Written Cards

Should be left as is, it is the one section that works as it is supposed to and wonderful ideas spring forth from here. OCG is kept top knotch so no complaints.

Card Contests

Seeing as how 1v1 contests are becoming more popular I suggest making then their own Section and making other Contests the sub-section. I also think that all contests shouldn't be allowed consolation prizes as that defeats the purpose of the Contest. Aside from this no complaints.

[Killey]

Realistic Section:

In general I believe that the majority of the members in this forum don't feel like contributing to the forums themselves and every time a person tries to introduce a new idea everyone else either ignores that person or berates them as being elitist. You get alienated the more you try to do for the forums. This isn't limited to the Realistic Section this is wide spread through other areas of the card creation forums.

 

I also feel the people in this section don't really understand the point of the Realistic Section. To me the goal of creating cards for this section should be creating cards that could be seen as being made in the TCG/OCG and I think members of this section should strive to help each other to do this through their posts about someone else's cards.

 

Right now this section is filled with people who just want to post their card creations and then expect positive feedback in the form of ratings rather than constructive and detailed feedback. Those that do want constructive feedback often don't get it and it becomes a frustrating experience of taking the time to create cards and then getting no responses on them. If you look at the threads the majority of the responses are card ratings on a scale of 1-10 with good/bad card comments, thank you comments, and OCG error comments with very few people taking the time to correct the OCG. Nobody takes the time to explain why the card is good or bad in a detailed manor. It makes it look like that people aren't even looking at the cards. They take a quick glance at the picture a brief skim of the effect and if they somewhat like it post a high rating and call it good without really understanding the card and how it impacts the actual game. This isn't doing anyone any favors and it surely doesn't help anyone up their skills as a card maker.

 

It seems a lot of this stems from a lack of knowledge and information about the in depth details of Yu-Gi-Oh. A lot can be gained from an extremely detailed guide to card making which should be collaborated on by members who have proven themselves to be knowledgeable in the game as well as taking the time to help others on this forum with their posts. I'm not talking about a guide that gives just generic advice. I'm talking about a guide that breaks everything down into good detail. It would go into minor things like what labels to use if you want to make a booster set, duel terminal release, etc... to a discussion about the current metagame and what cards are the current trends and how a created card could impact the meta.

 

If people know more about the game we can get more comments about balancing a card and then go beyond that to discussing how a card can be improved upon to stimulate new and original ideas. It would be one thing to give stricter rules to help cut back on posts that are just ratings or bad OCG but its more work for moderators to enforce such rules and in the end it may have mixed results. It may put off posters from posting but it may bring back posters who are willing to contribute more. I for one would be willing to post more detailed comments about cards if I felt that there was some positive to it. It would be nice to actual hold discussions with other members and collaborate together on a card.

 

Any Other Cards:

Currently, this section has a ton of cards that could fall into realistic section or other forum categories as well and its lacking direction. This section should be the place to be testing new ideas and game mechanics. It should promote originality in card ideas without being heavily scrutinized by the rules of OCG and ratings. It should be a place to foster creativity and originality with completely new card concepts like a new Type/Sub-Type (people need to stop calling them fake Types) or original game mechanics like how Synchro Summoning took the game by storm. This section of the forums should be renamed to something else to be more applicable to this change.

 

Joke Cards should fall under this section as well but there should be a sub-forum or a separate thread in this section to do this as it would really clutter the forum up.

 

Pop Culture Cards:

There's nothing that can really reinvent Pop Culture Cards or help improve it given the nature of this section. This section doesn't seem to get as much traffic as other sections and it isn't really regulated that much. I don't even think more regulation is even going to help the section as I don't believe the cards here should be heavily scrutinized for card creations and comments as the realistic section should. The success of this section really depends on the people who visit it and how they decide to help each other create cards that are suitable to the nature of their reference.

 

Written Cards:

The section is much like the Realistic Section but without images and a seemingly more useful community. It should be subjected to the same rules as regulations as the Realistic Section. The people who post here are more helpful then the posters in the Realistic Section, in my opinion. The only thing that holds this section back is the lack of members who frequent it because it lacks a card image. I think this section can also benefit from the detailed guide I mentioned in the comments for the realistic section.

 

Card Contests:

As others have mentioned a lot of the times when someone hosts a contest they tend to leave it incomplete allowing that person to collect the points and keep them. Other times the evaluation of cards are biased and often an evaluation is left out altogether. Someone holds a contest and gets to decide the winner of the contest but then doesn't go into any reasoning or explanation why that card is better than the others were submitted. It doesn't help the people who are entering the contest because they don't understand why they won or why their cards were not sufficient enough to win the contest. I find it difficult for someone to improve if they don't understand what they are doing wrong. This place has the potential to be the best place to improve a card maker's skills quickly but it needs a few things to help do this.

 

There needs to be some sort of guideline or format on how contests should be run so you don't run into issues where people are creating contests to steal points from others or leaving contests incomplete. I fear that just like any other section the more rules that are enforced the more people will shy away from those sections so the balance of freedom on the boards and creating a place that is helpful to the community is incredibly difficult.

 

OCG and Creativity:

 

OCG scrutiny should only be applicable to the realistic and written card sections. However, it shouldn't be to the point where its the only thing we focus on when commentating on a card. It is important that people learn good OCG as it helps the main goal of being able to create a card that would be considered for application in the TCG/OCG. I guess it wouldn't hurt to have a sub-forum dedicated to teaching and improving OCG for people wanting to learn.

 

I think the most important thing on this forum is creativity and it needs to be stimulated on these forums somehow. We've given the tools to be creative in Yugioh but we haven't created a good environment to foster that creativity.

[-Griffin]

Realistic:

From the topic in the LCM thread, I'll note down my (not very educated) view on the matter of how much people write for their reviews:

If a member has an option of giving a quick comment, only a line or two, which can be motivational or helpful, or a much longer comment which would be a huge help or motivation, then they have exactly that, an option. If a certain person doesn't have the time or initiative to write long comments even if it was the only option for reviewing, then having the choice here means that they can still make some form of contribution. Even just a note of how much they like it and a rating can be somewhat inspirational or show the creator if he's going in the right direction - at least better than no comment at all. While it's definitely good to have longer comments, I feel that making them mandatory isn't at all a positive idea.

 

Other than that, I don't think there's really a problem in the section, at least nothing I'd call major. There are some people who don't know the procedure and will come in here posting awful cards or attachments, but unless you can force a pop-up on card design and posting here before they make it, then most of them won't read stickies anyway, so only a more active or larger mod team could change this problem.

 

Pop Culture/Other:

I do not visit these at all and know nothing of their situation.

 

Written Cards:

This is the section I most frequent. Other than making it clear that no cards in here should be in [img ] tags, and instead should all be in written form, I actually think this section is doing just about perfectly.

 

Card Contests:

I don't visit this section too much, although from what I do see of it, I'd appriciate if there was a rule on thread titles, half the threads there are called "TH£ AW£$öM£ M£GA CONTEST OF ULTIMATE CARD DESIGNER OF THE YEAR TO FIND THE ULTRA MEGA BEST CARD MAKER EVER." or something else absurd.

 

OCG and Creativity:

When thinking of a card, I rate it on two scales:

* Overall fun to play and originality

* How it affects the format it is in

Originality is, for what its worth, no different to creativity, so I consider it a highly important point in any card design. Although some cards with simple and generic effects can be very good, if they act in a way that would affect the second rating scale strongly enough, such as a bland card which is so usable in certain, weaker, Decktypes that it enables a wider range of competitive Decks.

 

OCG is important to a certain level. Making the difference between "send from your hand to the Graveyard" and "discard" can change the balance of some cards, and some forms of OCG can just be confusing or un-readable. However, capitalizing "Graveyard" or other minor things shouldn't affect a rating or be a basis for a detailed review of a card. Things like that are fine to point out as an aside, as they improve the aesthetics of a card and are overall a nice thing to have.

[BulletMan]

Realistic

Is okay place. But half of it is crappy cards that people don't want to see, + spam. I once went to another forum (pokemon something, IDK), but what they did was before posting a team(cards), the moderator should review it and decide to have it go or not. Or a system somewhat like that. That keeps the entire section clean.

 

Pop Culture

Everybody makes a set off anime and all. It's very much like realistic, except less posts.

 

Any Other Cards

As said, it's mainly joke cards. IDK what "other cards" there really are, but that whole section seems almost pointless. Need to do something, even make it a sub-section.

 

Written Cards

It's a good place for starting to make OCG on a card and trying to perfect it before making it. No changes to this section I think.

 

Contests

There needs to be an official rating system for contests to determine winners, rather than by the hosts choice.

 

That pretty much concludes what I want to say.

 

Actually, ther is something to help new members on OCG/Creativity...

 

New members need to read the rules first, but alot of times, they just spam. So, maybe before they earn the chance to make cards, they have to reach 25 posts (2 stars), and have posted in the introductions section. Get to know the place through posting, that ought to get them on the right track so they don't spam. If they do, they'll more than likely do it before they reach 25 posts. Would keep things very clean.

[-DOOM]

Realistic Cards

Realistic Cards

 

 

Like the subtitle says, in this section the people should "post cards (..) which are realistic and balanced."

 

Each card in this section should try to achieve absolute realism and playability. This means following things: The card maker must try to make the OCG as perfect as possible. In order to make a card the most realistic, the OCG obviously has to be perfect since real cards have always perfect OCG.

A card maker who posts a card in this section has to want his cards to be absolute realistic and playable as possible. He should try this by making cards which are either support or expansions for existing cards/archetypes or by making sets which could compete against the current metagame and by selecting pictures which are the most similiar to Konami pictures. Also, the creativity should be decreased to a limit Konami, this means the TCG rules and conditions, gives.

Card edits are not realistic, except holos maybe, so edited cards don't belong here

 

Because it is difficult for members that are inexperienced with the Card Game to sense this limits, only rather expierenced members which are halfway familiar to the TCG should rate and post in the RC section. All members that are doubtful about their card making skills or all members which make cards with the aim to make them good looking, should post their cards in AOC section.

 

Notes:

All members, if new or "old" can post if they know the card game.

No one should ever expect a card to have perfect OCG. The OCG should be understandable, but every error must affect the rating.

Vanillas do not belong in this section, because they are not playable in my opinion.

 

 

Pop Culture Cards

Pop Culture Cards

 

 

I think all members do post the right cards into this section.

My ideal for a Pop Culture Card and therefore the section, is that the picture is the main point as well as trieng to reflect the pop culture charakters on the pic personality with a fitting lore. OCG is a minor matter. Creativity should have no limits, everyone should be aable to post whatever buzz in his mind, by following established forum rules.

 

And this makes the section open to everyone. All members can post, of course by using their brain before posting, their opinions about the cards and all members can post cards.

 

 

Any Other Cards

Any Other Cards

 

 

Cards that were made to impress other people (edited cards), cards with OP effects or stats, Vanillas and cards with more creativity than "allowed" in realistic cards should be posted here. As well as Member cards, Joke Cards and Fake Type cards, but in a Sub Forum.

 

Members that are not familiar with the card game should post and rate here, OCG is not so important than in realistic cards but still a important point. Like in Pop Culture Cards, creativity should have no limits. You could see this section as pre-realistc cards section, because AOC should be open especially to new members which should gather experience with the card maker here.

 

In order to clean this section from Spam, it needs a cooperating team between a/some mods and expierenced senior members.

 

Written Cards

Written Cards

 

 

This section should be a primary section for all card creating sections in custom cards. Everyone who is unsure about OCG being right should post his card here. Also, this section should be full of creativity, there shall be no limtis everything should be allowed.

 

This section is doing fine, so it's almost identical to my ideal.

 

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Card Contests[/align]

 

 

The Sub-Forum 1 on 1 contests is doing well.

But there is omething missing, a standardized rating system. Altough i don't like the ranking system, the Organisation Arc founded is a good example in my opinion, since 1 on 1 contest is the ultimate chance to determine THE best card maker.

 

The origianl forum has a bigger problem: There are way too many contests which don't even start properly. My ideal would be that only members who are Level 4 can start contest. This would reduce the amoun of contest so that more contest are finished.

Also, many members are not able to estimate their card making skills. i think this is aa important thing. There should be more contest only for newer members, so that they can gather experience.

 

 

 

 

sorry if something is not understanable, i tried to make the best i was sble to with my english. ask if you want to know something that you didn't understood.

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Realistic Cards

This section's point is obvious. It's a place for Realistic cards. This means that the cards posted here should be realistic to the YuGiOh TCG. The cards placed here shouldn't have real images, they shouldn't have effects that are completely off as well as totally inappropriate in the sense of what should be commonsense to someone who actually plays with or has seen the real cards. Cards posted here shouldn't be so obviously overpowering in unrealisticly designed. We shouldn't click on a thread and find an effect that sounds as if it came from the YuGiOh shows (Which more often then not get the effects totally wrong).

 

Cards placed here should be well balanced and completely playable. I don't quite see it as fair that experienced Card Makers have to deal with cards that fit the above paragraph. If a person is making a card that fits the above paragraph, then they should have a place to post it! Such as a new sub-forum. I'm not calling out anyone and I don't mean to be rude and blunt, however, most new members or even some older members post cards that are so obviously overpowering that even someone who's never even seen anything or heard of anything yugioh could tell you it's OP. It's so OP that it makes it look like they KNEW it was to powerful.

 

This sub-forum needs some guidelines on how to make proper realistic cards and I'd be happy to make them!

 

Another thing is that Divine-Beasts are the most unpopular type here. Everyone constantly complains whenever it is seen. So why not ban it here. I have no issue with it but at least ban the type from being posted in Realistic Cards to stop the discussion on whether it's legal or not. Confine cards of such type and attribute to Any Other Cards!

 

Another issue is the OCG. OCG may not seem important but it is. Real cards have no OCG errors. Yes some may only have older cards or no cards at all. It's stupid having people comment a card with "There are a couple of OCG errors blah blah blah" and not even bother to attempt to fix it. I believe it should be made manditory that all those commenting a card and noting that it has OCG errors, MUST give an edited version. That would lift this section up so much. It's irresponsible and rather rude since the poster wont get the correct OCG and will continue to post cards with wrong OCG because they became ignorant thanks to the people who were selfish enough to not help them and who are rude and hypocritical enough to snap at them when they get it wrong again. It's perfectly fine to have OCG errors since no one can make a card with perfect 100% true God-like perfection OCG, but there is a limit. Card's effects should not have more then 3 to 4 major errors / 2 to 3 minor errors. If the poster is using "ancient" OCG such as addressing Spell cards as Magic cards, then make that count as an OCG Error.

 

Balance should be treated the same. It's rude to tell someone their card is OP or UP and leave it at that without explaination and let everyone else continue to bombarde the poster with constant whining about it's balance. Make it a rule that all those commenting on unbalanced cards MUST give reason!

 

Creativity. Many here lack that. I hardly view making remakes of real cards, creative. Confine those to Any Other Cards! It's not realistic as there are no same cards with different effects in the TCG. It's fine to expand on or make an existing card the father of an Archtype or just give it some support. Creativity should also involve pictures. Cards with images that have been used by most of the people in Realistic cards hardly constitutes Creativity!

 

Pop Culture Section is defined as a place for cards based on TV Shows/Movies/Celebrities. I think this is to vague. To often do people post cards that are based on Manga, Anime, Video Games, and other stuff from the Mass Media in realistic cards! Let people know that, that is not the place! All cards that are purposly based on real life things should go here!

 

People are always using pictures of a character from cartoons/anime/manga and this starts an arguement on whether it belongs in Pop Culture. Something should be done about it! I don't know exactly what but think of something!

 

Also, something needs to be done about the poor quality of rating. Rating should have 3 components; OCG checks/fixes, Balance/Fixes, and Extra notes. Over the past few weeks I've been seeing Way to many posts with unhelpful information. You cracked down of Ragnarok (DONT COMMENT THIS THIS IS AN EXAMPLE) so crack down on those with equally poor post quality! I've noticed a certain tdath posting excrusiatingly unhelpful posts that would make Dear Ragnarok look like a rating god! Rates such as

Great first card. keep it up!

should have some sort of response. This kind of rating is poor in the extreme and must be discontinued! This helps no one and nothing!

[spoiler=Phantom Roxas]

Oh' date=' I had just noticed that ♥Łövëły Ċ.Ċ♥ has made a lot of threads. I personally think that we must enforce a limit on the number of threads one may post in a given amount of time.[/quote']

I realize this and I apologize. I'll think more of it next time I make a create a volley of cards. I'll make a mental note.

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Pop Culture Cards

I generally don't see anything wrong with this section as I spend no time there, but I think it should be a mistake friendly zone since it's home to cards based on Celebrities or Show Characters which generally can be considered Joke Cards and therefore should not warrant for serious attitudes to make.

 

My view on it, however, is that it's position on YCM is low but it's still a deserving place. I have nothing further to say about this section.

 

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Any Other Cards

This section is a well structured forum that is generally credited with Card Work for specific people. This section should have very loose OCG/Balance/Originality overviews since cards made here are generally specifically to other's liking.

 

I believe that any cards that are not obviously related to Realistics/Pop Culture/and Written should be posted here.

 

Cards that should be posted here are DIVINE Attribute cards/Divine Beast type cards/Fake-Types/Joke Cards/ and Test Cards.

 

Other then that, this community is a peacful and nearly flawless zone.

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Written Cards

I feel the same way about this section as I do about Realistic cards. This is virtually the Realistic Cards section except it warrants cards without images. The ideals that I gave for the Realistic Cards section should also be in accordince with this section.

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Card Contests

This forum is flourishing greatly. This general forum and it's sub-forums are grounds for great connection-creating (meaning it's friend-making friendly). However, there is a concern. Others have voiced it but they seem one sided.

 

Contests here are, yes, often not completed by the host. I myself have fallen victim to this tragedy. This however, should not be pinned upon the host alone. I am giving the next few lines out of personal experiences.

 

When a host posts his/her contest, CMs apply for the contest. The contest starts the host Sends the necessary info to all involved. No one replies. This is how many failed contests work. The host is 50% to blame. They did not constantly PM reminders, enforcing their tournament upon all involved, but it is also the contest entrants fault for not following their agreement up with results! A main cause of failure is that people apply when they cant really give the time to go through with it.

 

To often do people sign up for a contest and not show up for days on end and then reappear only to ask the host "When do I send my card?" or "When will the contest start?" People with unpredictable schedules should not be allowed to enter. That of course should be enforced and emphasised by the host.

 

All those preparing to host a contest should anticipate the length of time that this contest will consume. They should always post their results and make it clear that all participants should make sure that they are free for the set time. The host should always post all the important Dates such as beginning and end dates. The host should also give details on what to do if something has happened and requires them to miss any dates. The participant should notify the Host at least 1 hour to a day before the emergency or event happens.

 

Other than these ajustments the Contest Section is fine.

 

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OCG and Creativity

OCG and Creativity requirements should vary. Creativity should also involve originality. A card cannot be creative without a small bit of originality. My looks on OCG and Creativity are fully voiced in Realistic Cards.

 

[spoiler=My Voice on OCG and Creativity]

Another issue is the OCG. OCG may not seem important but it is. Real cards have no OCG errors. Yes some may only have older cards or no cards at all. It's stupid having people comment a card with "There are a couple of OCG errors blah blah blah" and not even bother to attempt to fix it. I believe it should be made manditory that all those commenting a card and noting that it has OCG errors, MUST give an edited version. That would lift this section up so much. It's irresponsible and rather rude since the poster wont get the correct OCG and will continue to post cards with wrong OCG because they became ignorant thanks to the people who were selfish enough to not help them and who are rude and hypocritical enough to snap at them when they get it wrong again. It's perfectly fine to have OCG errors since no one can make a card with perfect 100% true God-like perfection OCG, but there is a limit. Card's effects should not have more then 3 to 4 major errors / 2 to 3 minor errors. If the poster is using "ancient" OCG such as addressing Spell cards as Magic cards, then make that count as an OCG Error.

 

Creativity. Many here lack that. I hardly view making remakes of real cards, creative. Confine those to Any Other Cards! It's not realistic as there are no same cards with different effects in the TCG. It's fine to expand on or make an existing card the father of an Archtype or just give it some support. Creativity should also involve pictures. Cards with images that have been used by most of the people in Realistic cards hardly constitutes Creativity!

 

 

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[spoiler=My Improvement Suggestions]

Realistic Cards

1. Have a list of things that must be addressed in a rate; I.E. OCG Fixes-Look on why effect is OP or UP and suggestions on fixing it

2. Create list of guidelines for making real Realistic cards.

3. Make a seperate section for members who are just testing their card making abilities.

4. Confine the DIVINE Attribute, Divine-Beast type, and remakes of real cards to AOC.

5. Start locking threads that are home to obvious cases of Pop Culture cards.

6. Start a Thread that hold a model card of the week. Explain the card and give reasons, advise, and multiple high respected rater's rates to give Members with low Card Making skills help on how to create balanced cards. (If this is put into effect I'd like to be given the honor of creating said thread as I've already started something closely related.)

7. Posting quality should be monitered and if poor quality is discovered, something should be done to cause it's host to discontinue the poor trend.

Pop Culture

1. Relax OCG and Balance comments here as cards based on real life people or TV shows are hard to make realistic.

 

Any Other

N/A

 

Written Cards

1. All suggestions from Realistic Cards

2. This shouldn't be made manditory but advised that if a commenter knows of an image that fits a written card, they should provide it to the written card's creator.

 

Card Contests

1. Guidelines should be set.

2. Moderator should enfore guidelines and tell hosts not in accordance with certain said guidelines, to involve the specific said guidelines.

 

 

[Dark Mousy]

Oh yes my list of suggestions and complaints:

 

Realistic Cards

1) A card making school, honestly we need one.

2) Delete posts that are against RC rules / guidelines and PM the person saying what is wrong about it. This is the Smogon way of doing it.

3) You need to follow the CnC guidelines, not the current guidelines for rating in RC, and this needs to be STRICTLY enforced.

4) Finished Sets to be changed to sets.

 

Pop Culture

1) Should be Sub Forum of AOC or be deleted.

 

Any Other Cards

1) Should have some more uses than being a Spam Hole.

2) Stuff like Card Making Wars should be encouraged more.

 

Written Cards

No objections.

 

Card Contests

1) Stuff we have discussed via PM.

2) People must apply to become "certified" card Contest hosts.

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Lols we didnt have to make a suggestion list.

 

I just thought it quite accurate and helpful.

[cmc1234]

Realistic Cards

 

I think this is where you see most of the good cards. This is where people mainly rate cards due to ocg, op'd or up'd, pic's, originality, looks. The one thing i would like to see improved with peoples rates in R.C. is reasoning for their rates. Like for some people i see they will just say "7/10" and that will be it or they will say "This is awesome, 6/10". And what most people do is they will say" Good card, some ocg, and its op'd, and the pic is meh... But 7/10". I would like to see people state the ocg errors and tell them to go to the ocg thread for help. i would also like to see people state why its op'd or up'd and if they say the pic is bad tell them where to get pics. I think people who rate in R.C are a tad to strict. But i kinda agree with rating strict like that since this is "Realistic Cards" Where people expect good cards.

 

Pop Culture

 

Not much different from R.C. besides its cards about Anime Characters, or video games, etc... Now i don't post a lot in P.C but whenever i have i see that people aren't too strict or care to much about ocg, and if its op'd or up'd. And i think that's how it should be to be honest. This is where people can make YGO cards about there favorite characters from movies or T.V. Shows and video games. Really this should be more of a fun then anything when making a card for P.C. So really in my opinion i think Pop Culture is a place to go to make fun cards about there favorite characters or shows and where it shouldn't really matter if ocg is bad or not. Or if its op'd or up'd

 

Written Cards

 

This is a place where people post cards that don't have pics. Iv never posted a thread in W.C but i have commented on some cards. And really i would have to say its really just Realistic Cards except without the pics. I think this is a good place to post your card effect ideas for cards before actually making them in the card maker. I think this is a place where new people to this site should start off to so they can post there card effect ideas and have people in W.C rate and fix them. Then they can post there finished product in Realistic Cards. When most New members make there first ever card and post it there, they tend to get flamed and get comments like "You Fail" and "Wow! You suck and you FAIL" and "You don't get enough love at home do you?" XD. The last comment was fake but the first to i see a lot.

 

Any Other Cards

 

This is where you see your fake type cards and such. This place is also a lot like Pop Culture because most people just want to see creative, fun, and cool cards to look at. They really don't care to much about ocg and stuff along that line. Now once again i don't have much experience in A.O.C But i have commented a lot before. And i see alot of them same type of comments that i'll see in Pop Culture. I personally don't like Any other card but most people do and i think this is where you see alot of fun creative cards.

 

Card Contest

 

I extremely don't like this sub-section besides 1 on 1 contest's. I think there should be a limit to how much an entree fee can cost because most of the time its just down rite ridiculous. There's not much to say. I do participate in contests sometimes but not often. Unless your a card making pro your going to do bad in card contest, unless the rules vary.

[Sploda]

Oh yes my list of suggestions and complaints:

 

Realistic Cards

1) A card making school' date=' honestly we need one.

2) Delete posts that are against RC rules / guidelines and PM the person saying what is wrong about it. This is the Smogon way of doing it.

3) You need to follow the CnC guidelines, not the current guidelines for rating in RC, and this needs to be STRICTLY enforced.

4) Finished Sets to be changed to sets.

 

[b']Pop Culture[/b]

1) Should be Sub Forum of AOC or be deleted.

 

Any Other Cards

1) Should have some more uses than being a Spam Hole.

2) Stuff like Card Making Wars should be encouraged more.

 

Written Cards

No objections.

 

Card Contests

1) Stuff we have discussed via PM.

2) People must apply to become "certified" card Contest hosts.

 

These are also my suggestions, with a minor change of course.

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Tiny Edit to My first post

[Guest JoshIcy]

I am reading and very actively checking in with this thread, often posts more than once. Just be warned, I felt this post NEEDED to be replied to. You all are not being ignored.

 

Oh yes my list of suggestions and complaints:

 

Realistic Cards

1) A card making school' date=' honestly we need one.

2) Delete posts that are against RC rules / guidelines and PM the person saying what is wrong about it. This is the Smogon way of doing it.

3) You need to follow the CnC guidelines, not the current guidelines for rating in RC, and this needs to be STRICTLY enforced.[/s']

4) Finished Sets to be changed to sets.

 

Pop Culture

1) Should be Sub Forum of AOC or be deleted.

 

Any Other Cards

1) Should have some more uses than being a Spam Hole.

2) Stuff like Card Making Wars should be encouraged more.

 

Written Cards

No objections.

 

Card Contests

1) Stuff we have discussed via PM.

2) People must apply to become "certified" card Contest hosts.

 

The unslashed is what I agree with. Which isn't much. The rest is just elitist crap. And you've already admitted, all of that was to benefit YOU personally. Idc about Smogon. YCM is different. Different community, different board. And as Brushfire said, YCM has a very strict no-deleting policy.

 

In fact, the ONLY threads that we are allowed to delete are the ones that contain inappropriate content.

 

As Ive said before Dark Mousy, you were made an LCM to use what you know (in particular the Card Contest area) to share what you know and embrace it for others to use and learn from. Not force it down their throat and expect a strict thing. Your role now, is to exist to serve the community, much like a mod. Not serve yourself.

[LinkElfice510]

Realistic Cards:

 

I don't post here mainly because I have no interest in making cards that would be playable in the current TCG, nor have I bought YGO cards in many years so I'm behind on what makes a card realistic, but I do occasionally look through a few threads just to see what others are making. And too often do people say things like "OCG errors" without helping the maker of the card fix the error. I think someone might have already said this, but perhaps a new rule could be "If you are going to point out OCG errors in a card, don't leave it at that. Tell the card maker what the proper OCG would be."

 

Pop Culture Cards:

 

This is the forum I know best and the reason behind every card I make since all of my cards (except my Member Card, although the name was inspired by LoZ) are video game based. However...there are a lot of other members in this forum, and it can easily be over crowded. I would like to see the bump time limit shortened since way too often do I bump a thread of mine only for it to be swarmed by the 938458934 other sets that people decide to make (Naruto sets are especially troublesome IMO =P). And that's what happens with most sets that are video game based I've noticed. So perhaps we could make a sub-forum that sets the video game cards and the TV/Movie cards in different places. It sure would help out not only myself, but everyone else making a VG set I think.

 

Any Other Cards:

 

Meh, I don't really pay too much attention to this forum...although I will say that I disagree with people who want Pop Culture to be merged with AoC. That would just be...I can't even describe how horrible it'd be. The spam would swarm the people who want their sets they worked on to be seen...kinda like the rebellion the Jews had against the Romans that actually worked.

 

Written Cards:

 

Like Realistic, I don't post, but I do browse. And this is a great forum. No complaints here.

 

Card Contests:

 

I haven't even been in this forum since I'm not the type to do something like this so I have nothing informed to say about it xP

 

 

**EDIT** Whoops forgot this part...

OCG and Creativity:

 

If you couldn't tell, OCG is not something major to me since every single card I make has a 0.000000000000000001% chance of actually being made. So it confuses me as to why in the Pop Culture section so many people nitpick others for OCG errors considering that none of the cards there will most likely ever have the chance to be made real. Sure, RC cards most likely won't be made real, but those are just that: realistic. It'd be nice if...well not exactly a rule, but maybe a guideline was made saying that anyone who points out OCG errors in Pop Culture shouldn't detract from the rating as much as one would in RC.

 

As for creativity, to me, is a must. And while you may think "But your set in your sig is based off a video game that also has been done countless times! How is that creative??" Well if you would visit it, you'd see that it's very VERY different from the other SSBB sets. But that's a minor issue. When making something like your own YGO card, you need to be creative. Don't use a form just because it worked for one person!

[Dark Mousy]

I use the Smogon analogy, because they are relatively the same audience. There are some 17/18 year olds, some younger ones. They have the same problems, they want to model the younger ones to conform to strict standards.

 

I'm not trying to help myself. I'm trying to solve a problem, that benefits some people. GFX follows CnC guidelines, RP follows Advance Clause, etc. I don't know GFX forum that well.

 

Do you know why contests don't finish Icy? It is simply the lack of STRICT regulations, from both the card-maker's side, and the host's side.

 

I am not trying to serve myself. I'm trying to bring YCM to reach a goal, and a goal that is different from yours Icy.

[Sploda]

May I point out that I agreed with most of Mousy's suggestions so he can't be serving himself if I agree with him.