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Yeah' date=' depends on if they see this + Machine Dupe + ??? = broken/too powerful.[hr']

But if it were Warrior, it could be searched via RotA!!!

 

Junk Synchron + 1 Tuningware + Machine Dupe = OP

this wouldnt be as good but still pretty good

I often wonder why people kneejerk copying the "Machine Duplication" comment someone made instead of the better Inferno Reckless Summon.

 

Versatility and pulling from 3 places beats Machines at 500 or less and only from Deck anyday.

 

Machine Dupe doesnt offer the chance of giving your opponent 2 free monsters. Plus Machine Dupe just needs a monster and not a special requirement like Inferno.

 

Plus Inferno should only be used in a Battery Man deck

 

The chance? The chance comes because you allowed it. No one who uses IRS actually makes thinks that way because very few people (especially competitively) use more than one of their more used or better monsters outside of going for the kill. You use it when it's not the best time for your opponent to do much about it. And of course it "just" needs the monster to be there, it already HAS several other restrictions.

 

You play a card, there's going to be rules and risk.

 

500 or less only, Machine Only, from Deck only.

Pro: free outside of restrictions, doesn't depend on opponent's cards.

 

vs

 

1500 or less only, only when Special Summoned, opponent has to have a monster.

Pro: far more reaching, pulls essentially any monsters that can be Special Summoned (within conditions and combos), can resurrect monsters.

 

It's a simple matter of payoff. No one wants to take a risk until someone ELSE plays the deck and then everyone copies it (see also: Fallen Angel Zerato OTK which uses IRS).

 

Pick your poison. In most cases, you can use IRS in more situations and for better reasons. Especially since we are talking about a Junk/Synchron deck build. You can't use Machine D on the Calculator after Junk Synchron rez's it. You can use IRS on Calculator as well as Tuning Supporter. And those Calculators get mighty big and only make Junk Warrior bigger. And since we're talking about Junk Destroyer as well, your opponent having new monsters is irrelevant because you're about to blow them to hell.

 

I'll take the card I have more reasons to use than beyond pulling a monster I HOPE isn't already in my hand.

 

 

And only a Batteryman Deck? I've seen more uses of IRS than I have people that even will try Batteryman Decks. Apparently you've never seen the infamous combos that get IRS closer and closer to restriction. Fallen Angel Zerato OTK, Junk Warrior OTK, The Calculator OTK.

 

I like how this guy is trying to be all smart by typing lots of words.

 

Machine Dup is better for what this card (if Machine) is than IRS. Specially since this guys effect only activates when normal Summoned, if you are using IRS on the Synchron, you will have more tuners than needed, IRS might be for the final push, but Machine Dup can be used anytime. IRS, while you are SSummoning, you will likely be using it on a card that was SS because of another card (sometimes itself, but...) it really depends.

 

Machine Dup is the best way either way if this guy is machine.

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Yeah' date=' depends on if they see this + Machine Dupe + ??? = broken/too powerful.[hr']

But if it were Warrior, it could be searched via RotA!!!

 

Junk Synchron + 1 Tuningware + Machine Dupe = OP

this wouldnt be as good but still pretty good

I often wonder why people kneejerk copying the "Machine Duplication" comment someone made instead of the better Inferno Reckless Summon.

 

Versatility and pulling from 3 places beats Machines at 500 or less and only from Deck anyday.

 

Machine Dupe doesnt offer the chance of giving your opponent 2 free monsters. Plus Machine Dupe just needs a monster and not a special requirement like Inferno.

 

Plus Inferno should only be used in a Battery Man deck

 

The chance? The chance comes because you allowed it. No one who uses IRS actually makes thinks that way because very few people (especially competitively) use more than one of their more used or better monsters outside of going for the kill. You use it when it's not the best time for your opponent to do much about it. And of course it "just" needs the monster to be there, it already HAS several other restrictions.

 

You play a card, there's going to be rules and risk.

 

500 or less only, Machine Only, from Deck only.

Pro: free outside of restrictions, doesn't depend on opponent's cards.

 

vs

 

1500 or less only, only when Special Summoned, opponent has to have a monster.

Pro: far more reaching, pulls essentially any monsters that can be Special Summoned (within conditions and combos), can resurrect monsters.

 

It's a simple matter of payoff. No one wants to take a risk until someone ELSE plays the deck and then everyone copies it (see also: Fallen Angel Zerato OTK which uses IRS).

 

Pick your poison. In most cases, you can use IRS in more situations and for better reasons. Especially since we are talking about a Junk/Synchron deck build. You can't use Machine D on the Calculator after Junk Synchron rez's it. You can use IRS on Calculator as well as Tuning Supporter. And those Calculators get mighty big and only make Junk Warrior bigger. And since we're talking about Junk Destroyer as well, your opponent having new monsters is irrelevant because you're about to blow them to hell.

 

I'll take the card I have more reasons to use than beyond pulling a monster I HOPE isn't already in my hand.

 

 

And only a Batteryman Deck? I've seen more uses of IRS than I have people that even will try Batteryman Decks. Apparently you've never seen the infamous combos that get IRS closer and closer to restriction. Fallen Angel Zerato OTK, Junk Warrior OTK, The Calculator OTK.

 

I like how this guy is trying to be all smart by typing lots of words.

 

Machine Dup is better for what this card (if Machine) is than IRS. Specially since this guys effect only activates when normal Summoned, if you are using IRS on the Synchron, you will have more tuners than needed, IRS might be for the final push, but Machine Dup can be used anytime. IRS, while you are SSummoning, you will likely be using it on a card that was SS because of another card (sometimes itself, but...) it really depends.

 

Machine Dup is the best way either way if this guy is machine.

 

Even if that were true, it's still better than making nonsense comments in a failed attempt at being "cool." It's called giving the truth of the matter, how many words there are only matters to people who are ADHD.

 

The debate was Machine vs IRS in general. The only reason people are even talking about Machine Dup is because of Tuning Supporter with Junk Destroyer, which IRS does the same thing in the same chain better and people who make think about combos all the time know that. There was no "trying to sound smart." And we both know you can't use Machine Dup "anytime" either. If your targets are anywhere but Deck, it's just as dead. If it's not a Machine you have multiples of and they are all 500 or less, it's dead. Puts a hole in the "anytime" bucket.

 

 

In fact, did you even know what you saying? You said "better for what this card is (if Machine) is." That card being Explorer.

 

Since you brought it up, what are you using Machine Dup on then? No one said what they are using Machine Dup on in the case of Explorer, but since you bring up "not being able to use Explorer's effect when Special Summon", the situation isn't any better. You don't get any effects for Special Summoning Explorer, so what was the point in even talking about it if you know no one is using it on him for that reason?

 

The irony is you said I was the one "trying to sound smart."

 

Still since you bring it up, what are you using Machine Dupe on Explorer for assuming it even is a Machine? You did already admit to knowing you get nothing special from "duplicating."

 

It's a 2 with 0 ATK. and now you have 3 of them (you hope).

 

If you pull Junk Synchron and dupe 2 Explorers, you can make Warrior and Archer, not Destroyer, so having 3 Explorers is also having "too many" since you won't use them for that.

 

If you use Junk to pull Explorer, you have the same situation.

 

I'd like you yourself to tell me. What is your special reason for using Machine Dupe on Explorer?

 

 

 

"More Tuners than needed?" Between able to use Synchros for fodder (including for other Synchros) or having walls, or having their effects at my disposal. Obviously you don't need to use EITHER card on a card you have no intention of multiplying; so again, what was the point to even bringing that up? You're not going to be using Machine Dup on the Synchron (or any monster) you bring up anymore than with IRS without a reason.

 

 

"Being smart" would be running both cards anyway, have your bases covered and play to the situation at hand.

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Yeah' date=' depends on if they see this + Machine Dupe + ??? = broken/too powerful.[hr']

But if it were Warrior, it could be searched via RotA!!!

 

Junk Synchron + 1 Tuningware + Machine Dupe = OP

this wouldnt be as good but still pretty good

I often wonder why people kneejerk copying the "Machine Duplication" comment someone made instead of the better Inferno Reckless Summon.

 

Versatility and pulling from 3 places beats Machines at 500 or less and only from Deck anyday.

 

Machine Dupe doesnt offer the chance of giving your opponent 2 free monsters. Plus Machine Dupe just needs a monster and not a special requirement like Inferno.

 

Plus Inferno should only be used in a Battery Man deck

 

The chance? The chance comes because you allowed it. No one who uses IRS actually makes thinks that way because very few people (especially competitively) use more than one of their more used or better monsters outside of going for the kill. You use it when it's not the best time for your opponent to do much about it. And of course it "just" needs the monster to be there, it already HAS several other restrictions.

 

You play a card, there's going to be rules and risk.

 

500 or less only, Machine Only, from Deck only.

Pro: free outside of restrictions, doesn't depend on opponent's cards.

 

vs

 

1500 or less only, only when Special Summoned, opponent has to have a monster.

Pro: far more reaching, pulls essentially any monsters that can be Special Summoned (within conditions and combos), can resurrect monsters.

 

It's a simple matter of payoff. No one wants to take a risk until someone ELSE plays the deck and then everyone copies it (see also: Fallen Angel Zerato OTK which uses IRS).

 

Pick your poison. In most cases, you can use IRS in more situations and for better reasons. Especially since we are talking about a Junk/Synchron deck build. You can't use Machine D on the Calculator after Junk Synchron rez's it. You can use IRS on Calculator as well as Tuning Supporter. And those Calculators get mighty big and only make Junk Warrior bigger. And since we're talking about Junk Destroyer as well, your opponent having new monsters is irrelevant because you're about to blow them to hell.

 

I'll take the card I have more reasons to use than beyond pulling a monster I HOPE isn't already in my hand.

 

 

And only a Batteryman Deck? I've seen more uses of IRS than I have people that even will try Batteryman Decks. Apparently you've never seen the infamous combos that get IRS closer and closer to restriction. Fallen Angel Zerato OTK, Junk Warrior OTK, The Calculator OTK.

 

I like how this guy is trying to be all smart by typing lots of words.

 

Machine Dup is better for what this card (if Machine) is than IRS. Specially since this guys effect only activates when normal Summoned, if you are using IRS on the Synchron, you will have more tuners than needed, IRS might be for the final push, but Machine Dup can be used anytime. IRS, while you are SSummoning, you will likely be using it on a card that was SS because of another card (sometimes itself, but...) it really depends.

 

Machine Dup is the best way either way if this guy is machine.

 

Even if that were true, it's still better than making nonsense comments in a failed attempt at being "cool." It's called giving the truth of the matter, how many words there are only matters to people who are ADHD.

 

The debate was Machine vs IRS in general. The only reason people are even talking about Machine Dup is because of Tuning Supporter with Junk Destroyer, which IRS does the same thing in the same chain better and people who make think about combos all the time know that. There was no "trying to sound smart." And we both know you can't use Machine Dup "anytime" either. If your targets are anywhere but Deck, it's just as dead. If it's not a Machine you have multiples of and they are all 500 or less, it's dead. Puts a hole in the "anytime" bucket.

 

 

In fact, did you even know what you saying? You said "better for what this card is (if Machine) is." That card being Explorer.

 

Since you brought it up, what are you using Machine Dup on then? No one said what they are using Machine Dup on in the case of Explorer, but since you bring up "not being able to use Explorer's effect when Special Summon", the situation isn't any better. You don't get any effects for Special Summoning Explorer, so what was the point in even talking about it if you know no one is using it on him for that reason?

 

The irony is you said I was the one "trying to sound smart."

 

Still since you bring it up, what are you using Machine Dupe on Explorer for assuming it even is a Machine? You did already admit to knowing you get nothing special from "duplicating."

 

It's a 2 with 0 ATK. and now you have 3 of them (you hope).

 

If you pull Junk Synchron and dupe 2 Explorers, you can make Warrior and Archer, not Destroyer, so having 3 Explorers is also having "too many" since you won't use them for that.

 

If you use Junk to pull Explorer, you have the same situation.

 

I'd like you yourself to tell me. What is your special reason for using Machine Dupe on Explorer?

 

 

 

"More Tuners than needed?" Between able to use Synchros for fodder (including for other Synchros) or having walls, or having their effects at my disposal. Obviously you don't need to use EITHER card on a card you have no intention of multiplying; so again, what was the point to even bringing that up? You're not going to be using Machine Dup on the Synchron (or any monster) you bring up anymore than with IRS without a reason.

 

 

"Being smart" would be running both cards anyway, have your bases covered and play to the situation at hand.

 

*face palm*

 

u r ovar doing it.

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I am very very happy with this card.

 

I have always been a Toolbox duelist and after -RoTa- was limited to 1 i moved from my, at the time, Synchron/Warrior Deck to the Jurac's, for their Fossil Dig.

 

It is a card like this that gets me all excited that i can enjoy playing with Synchrons again, after buying a Junk Collector an 2 Junk Bladers, i think i can finally build myself a fun Junk Deck ^_^

 

Overall the card is mint!!!

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........why is it that I mentioned its a non-Tuner in the OP' date=' and people think its a Tuner?

 

Srsly, Konami is trying to re-invent the game, and have a non-Tuner that revives Tuners.

Instead of the usual method of a Tuner reviving non-Tuners.

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*Points to Dark Bug*

Yeah, we know.

 

"Being smart" would be running both cards anyway' date=' have your bases covered and play to the situation at hand.

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Hello, dead draws.

 

Main One, Side the other (just for testing), try both in different duels, see which works better for you, use that.

Seriously people, calming down and shutting up needs to be done. You're arguing back and forth over two cards which essentially perform the same function, NEITHER OF WHICH ARE THE TOPIC CARD. Get over it.

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I just looked on Shreik and it was confirmed with effect' date=' and it's MACHINE/EARTH!!1!!1!!11one

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It's official; Konami's CEOs have lost their F**KING minds.

 

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At least they are not trying to kill us with there jolly boots of doom!

 

owait

 

So it's a +0 lv. 4/5/6 Generic Synchro Summon?

 

fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Duah.

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Don't get your hopes up yet if its name contain's Synchron it gunna be a tuner >.>

Its a non-Tuner.

Well then... we got instant Junk warrior' date=' Nitro warrior and Armoury Arm now

 

So it's a +0 lv. 4/5/6 Generic Synchro Summon?

 

fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Duah.

7 as well if you count quick draw for instant BRD ... O___O FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

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Don't get your hopes up yet if its name contain's Synchron it gunna be a tuner >.>

Its a non-Tuner.

Well then... we got instant Junk warrior' date=' Nitro warrior and Armoury Arm now

 

So it's a +0 lv. 4/5/6 Generic Synchro Summon?

 

fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Duah.

7 as well if you count quick draw for instant BRD ... O___O FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

 

The text saying it MUST be used for a Warrior IS NOT an effect. That's been said how many times?

Seriously, it's a MaDup/IRS-able monster that brings out ANY SIZE TUNER you need. What the F**K Konami. What the F**K?

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Seriously' date=' it's a MaDup/IRS-able monster that brings out ANY SIZE TUNER you need. What the F**K Konami. What the F**K?

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Its only limited to a Tuner with the name "Synchron" in its name.

 

but srs' date=' this is overpowered.

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You have to Normal Summon it, to use its effect.

 

=/=overpowered

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Seriously' date=' it's a MaDup/IRS-able monster that brings out ANY SIZE TUNER you need. What the F**K Konami. What the F**K?

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Its only limited to a Tuner with the name "Synchron" in its name.

 

They have those in Levels 1-5. Most likely only going to use 3-5, but you see my point.

 

but srs' date=' this is overpowered.

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You have to Normal Summon it, to use its effect.

 

=/=overpowered

 

No, not OP'ed, but it doesn't make sense to make something like this which can be so easily abused.

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