Phantom Roxas Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/13/AR2010041302445.html?g=0 I am rarely this disgusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyire Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 That was really sad.EDIT: I'm surprised that in such a modern age, sheet like this can happen. It's mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Borg Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 This is purely sad. He had no clue what happened and yet Utah is doing that. I have just lost more faith in the American government and legal system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 This is purely sad. He had no clue what happened and yet Utah is doing that. I have just lost more faith in the American government and legal system. It's just Utah. Not other state does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Borg Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 This is purely sad. He had no clue what happened and yet Utah is doing that. I have just lost more faith in the American government and legal system. It's just Utah. Not other state does that. If your referring to how I'm losing faith then I am losing faith because this proves how poor the system is. The family with the child should give it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Before anyone says anything, yes, the family should give the child up. The father could not give his consent, and honestly, are they even considering his feelings? It's his real child, and they got it just because the mom's a jabroni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Metal Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I would murder the mother if this happened to me. Such a shame. The poor guy doesn't stand a chance against the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 How stupid. This is a travesty. The Mormons complain about how people think they still practice polygamy, and then they turn around and pull this crap? Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I love how no one in this topic realizes that its not the father's happiness we should be concerned with. Pro-tip: It's the childs :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn of Elemia Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 That is absolutely sick. How can people be so disgusting and cruel? That's incredibly low of the mother - and I hope she burns in Hell for it. I wouldn't be surprised if there comes a 'justified kidnapping'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I love how no one in this topic realizes that its not the father's happiness we should be concerned with. Pro-tip: It's the childs :) And if/when the child finds out she was taken from her father and was never given the chance to meet up in spite of his best efforts to find her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 lolreligion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I love how no one in this topic realizes that its not the father's happiness we should be concerned with. Pro-tip: It's the childs :) And if/when the child finds out she was taken from her father and was never given the chance to meet up in spite of his best efforts to find her? I guess the child should just Q__Q themselves to death. I mean, its so hard to find people these days, I mean, we only have so much technology that can help us. Also, a multitude of studies have shown that kids who are adopted into a two parent family are happier then living with a single parent family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitus Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I love how no one in this topic realizes that its not the father's happiness we should be concerned with. Pro-tip: It's the childs :) And if/when the child finds out she was taken from her father and was never given the chance to meet up in spite of his best efforts to find her? I guess the child should just Q__Q themselves to death. I mean' date=' its so hard to find people these days, I mean, we only have so much technology that can help us. Also, a multitude of studies have shown that kids who are adopted into a two parent family are happier then living with a single parent family.[/quote'] Regardless, that child would be living in a two parent family if the mother would've done the part she had vowed to do with the father. (said in article she had vowed to John Wyatt.) Instead, she decides to put the baby up for adoption. What annoys me, is her lawyer said the mother believed John didn't have what it took to raise the child. When the hell does she get to decide that? I don't care if she went through 12 hours of labor, she doesn't get to decide alone if the father can or can't do something, or is or isn't capable of doing something, and giving it away. Of course, I could have misread the article about when the lawyer said the mother believed John wasn't capable of raising the baby, but what I do remember is she believing she should've put the baby up for adoption because she had plans. Sure, it was what was best for the baby, but what about the father? The baby may have had a better life if it was raised with 2 parent families, but that doesn't mean she can make a decision for the father. I am absolutely disgusted with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueEyes22 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 see, this is why you are supposed to be present at the birth. But that is so messed up. It made me punch my computer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Sure' date=' it was what was best for the baby, but what about the father? [/quote'] Oh yeah, I forgot, after you have 1 baby, you can't have anymor...oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitus Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Sure' date=' it was what was best for the baby, but what about the father? [/quote'] Oh yeah, I forgot, after you have 1 baby, you can't have anymor...oh wait. That doesn't mean it still won't emotionally affect him. More importantly, don't you think that baby will one day find out that his father was screwed out of his child by the child's mother? What do you think will happen then? If I were that child, I would want to see my real father so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Madness? This is UTAH! *judge kicks the father to a bottomless pit* America is disgusting, people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Bishop Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Shyt like this makes me sad and disgusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 see' date=' this is why you are supposed to be present at the birth. But that is so messed up. It made me punch my computer[/quote'] Except he was unaware of the birth, and he missed it because she wouldn't tell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert_Name_Here Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Dude this is not coolIf he didnt know about the birth, there was no way he coulda gained custody of the child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Sure' date=' it was what was best for the baby, but what about the father? [/quote'] Oh yeah, I forgot, after you have 1 baby, you can't have anymor...oh wait. Are you seriously suggesting that if someone takes your child away you should just shrug and say "Oh well, time to make another." ? In that case, I'll just go kill your brother. It's cool though: You can always go funk your mother and make a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andx Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 The Mormons complain about how people think they still practice polygamy' date=' and then they turn around and pull this crap? Just wow.[/quote'] Hmmm.... let's see. Utah's involved so obviously this entire event is to be completely blamed on the Mormons. Great logic there. Kindly don't go blaming the church as they had no direct involvement in the decision. You talk like Mormons look for opportunities to do this. I don't want to fight over this, in fact I don't want to post here anymore after this but I can't let this point just go like that. All I ask is that you don't blame a church for something that wasn't their fault. It's very inconsiderate. And I will say this. If this guy wanted his kid he should have married his girl friend before even trying to have the kid. Problem would have been solved right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Utah is culturally conservative, and lawyers say the powerful Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, with its emphasis on family values, has strongly encouraged adoption-friendly laws. "The Utah statutes can be harsh, but they are looking at what's best for the child: stable placements and two-parent families," said David Hardy, a lawyer for LDS Family Services, a Mormon Church-affiliated adoption agency that is among the nation's largest. Even if he proposed, what if she said no? And even if she did say yes, would that have stopped her from pulling this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecoboy1324 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 The Mormons complain about how people think they still practice polygamy' date=' and then they turn around and pull this crap? Just wow.[/quote'] Hmmm.... let's see. Utah's involved so obviously this entire event is to be completely blamed on the Mormons. Great logic there. Kindly don't go blaming the church as they had no direct involvement in the decision. You talk like Mormons look for opportunities to do this. I don't want to fight over this, in fact I don't want to post here anymore after this but I can't let this point just go like that. All I ask is that you don't blame a church for something that wasn't their fault. It's very inconsiderate. And I will say this. If this guy wanted his kid he should have married his girl friend before even trying to have the kid. Problem would have been solved right there. Well lets see Utah has a very big Mormon population and a lot of lawmakers are Mormon. So yes i can blame this on Mormons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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