http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dandylion

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Lol.

 

... But seriously though. This is like, the new/old super hyped card now or something? Why the hell is that? Seems like a load of crap to me.

 

I'll admit I haven't played in a while, but I tried to give the deck it was showcased in a spin and I gotta say I'm largely unimpressed. Seems a lot slower and a lot worse then the deck I'm normally used to.

 

So go ahead YCM. Enlighten me.

[byak]

Quickdraw Plants is slow and unimpressive?

Then why did the deck top the Jump?

Why is Drill Warrior $40 now?

[Canadian]

Quickdraw Synchron.

 

[/life].

 

EDIT: Ninja'd.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Quickdraw Plants is slow and unimpressive?

 

It was for me.

 

Then why did the deck top the Jump?

 

Original new deck and no one quite knew WTF to side against it. It's one of those WTF decks that throws everyone off guard at first.

 

On a completely unrelated note' date=' when DAD Return was first tournament legal, Six Samurai topped it.

 

Why is Drill Warrior $40 now?

 

TAEV CyberDark Impact has been hovering around 20 bucks for the past year or so. Price isn't a sign that a card is good, otherwise Tyler the Great Warrior decks would be God Tier.

 

 

So... any actual answers?

[BulletMan]

+2 to the field.

 

Then you do stuff with them. And isn't Dandy at 2 now, I forgot.

 

You can generate a lot of +'s with it. Yes pika, +'s.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

+2 to the field.

 

Then you do stuff with them. And isn't Dandy at 2 now' date=' I forgot.

 

You can generate a lot of +'s with it. Yes pika, +'s.

[/quote']

 

+2 of level 1 tokens. Not all that impressive in my humble opinion when there's plenty of perfectly legal cards in the game that give you higher levels for Synchroing and isn't limited to stuff that can be summoned by [blank] Synchron Tuners.

 

All that stuff with Lonefire Blossom and other plant tomfoolery just breeds inconsistencies from the bits I play tested, in my opinion.

[Dr. Cakey]

Nothing I can say or do will make me change your mind, except maybe this:

 

It's a f***ing dandelion lion. What more do you want???

 

Also, you side against Quickdraw Dandywarriors what you side against everything else: Royal friggin' Oppression.

[burnpsy]

This has been recently discussed.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Nothing I can say or do will make me change your mind' date=' except maybe this:

 

It's a f***ing dandelion lion. What more do you want???[/quote']

 

I didn't think my reputation for being an irritable jabroni had gotten that bad. o_o

 

I should hope I'm not considered that difficult a person to be around. <_<

 

Nevertheless, I guess I mean... I'd like to know why people think so highly of such an insignificant (IMO) card. Maybe a decent enough explanation that didn't just regurgitate the card's effect. Uhh... if it's not too much trouble a link to a deck analysis or a link to a feature match where a guy used this?

 

Also' date=' you side against Quickdraw Dandywarriors what you side against everything else: Royal friggin' Oppression.[/quote']

 

*shrug* Not scared by Oppression...

 

On a completely unrelated note, is Royal Decree still at 2? <_<

 

This has been recently discussed.

 

Cool story bro.

[BulletMan]

+2 to the field.

 

Then you do stuff with them. And isn't Dandy at 2 now' date=' I forgot.

 

You can generate a lot of +'s with it. Yes pika, +'s.

[/quote']

 

+2 of level 1 tokens. Not all that impressive in my humble opinion when there's plenty of perfectly legal cards in the game that give you higher levels for Synchroing and isn't limited to stuff that can be summoned by [blank] Synchron Tuners.

 

All that stuff with Lonefire Blossom and other plant tomfoolery just breeds inconsistencies from the bits I play tested, in my opinion.

 

I summon a Tuner of certain Levels. I have these tokens that are worthless. I don't plan on having them be used for defense/Attack. I will Synch with that Tuner for a Synchro and make stuff happen. Or I will use Vaski. And I still have my Normal Summon (Except the Tuner thing I said).

 

But I doubt this will plz you.

 

Yes burnpsy. Yes indeed.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

I summon a Tuner of certain Levels. I have these tokens that are worthless. I don't plan on having them be used for defense/Attack. I will Synch with that Tuner for a Synchro and make stuff happen. Or I will use Vaski. And I still have my Normal Summon (Except the Tuner thing I said).

 

But I doubt this will plz you.

 

Probably not. I don't see it as any more impressive then the 100 year old combo of Instant Fusion, Fires of Doomsday, Scapegoat, etc etc + any random tuner.

 

And being able to use Reptilianne Vaskii isn't impressive. Maybe it's just the way I duel but I just don't see the effect of Dandylion going off too often.

[BulletMan]

I summon a Tuner of certain Levels. I have these tokens that are worthless. I don't plan on having them be used for defense/Attack. I will Synch with that Tuner for a Synchro and make stuff happen. Or I will use Vaski. And I still have my Normal Summon (Except the Tuner thing I said).

 

But I doubt this will plz you.

 

Probably not. I don't see it as any more impressive then the 100 year old combo of Instant Fusion' date=' Fires of Doomsday, Scapegoat, etc etc + any random tuner.

 

And being able to use Reptilianne Vaskii isn't impressive. I just don't see the Dandylion combo going off too often.

[/quote']

 

Pika your right. Dandy is stupid. Lets not try to take advantage as much as possible with the 2 tokens you could get and use them for stuff that I'm going to let you figure out.

 

Your so right.

[byak]

I summon a Tuner of certain Levels. I have these tokens that are worthless. I don't plan on having them be used for defense/Attack. I will Synch with that Tuner for a Synchro and make stuff happen. Or I will use Vaski. And I still have my Normal Summon (Except the Tuner thing I said).

 

But I doubt this will plz you.

 

Probably not. I don't see it as any more impressive then the 100 year old combo of Instant Fusion' date=' Fires of Doomsday, Scapegoat, etc etc + any random tuner.

 

And being able to use Reptilianne Vaskii isn't impressive. Maybe it's just the way I duel but I just don't see the effect of Dandylion going off too often.

[/quote']

 

Quick and Dandy is just a pure advantage machine. Sure, they produce tokens, but the tokens are led even further for +0 Tributes and Synchros

 

Card advantage is key, and this covers it.

[BulletMan]

I summon a Tuner of certain Levels. I have these tokens that are worthless. I don't plan on having them be used for defense/Attack. I will Synch with that Tuner for a Synchro and make stuff happen. Or I will use Vaski. And I still have my Normal Summon (Except the Tuner thing I said).

 

But I doubt this will plz you.

 

Probably not. I don't see it as any more impressive then the 100 year old combo of Instant Fusion' date=' Fires of Doomsday, Scapegoat, etc etc + any random tuner.

 

And being able to use Reptilianne Vaskii isn't impressive. Maybe it's just the way I duel but I just don't see the effect of Dandylion going off too often.

[/quote']

 

Quick and Dandy is just a pure advantage machine. Sure, they produce tokens, but the tokens are led even further for +0 Tributes and Synchros

 

Card advantage is key, and this covers it.

 

Wut the white fluffy animal guy said.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Pika your right. Dandy is stupid. Lets not try to take advantage as much as possible with the 2 tokens you could get and use them for stuff that I'm going to let you figure out.

 

Your so right.

 

I'm just saying there are better card combos for the task of Synchroing. And the minor extra plant stuff with Lonefire Blossom is minor and insignificant to the point of being a detriment when it comes to drawing. Lonefire's useless without the tokens in place. Lion is useless without a quick way to discard it' date=' etc etc.

 

Simpler ways to get from point A to Point B exist, from monsters not destroyed by battle to monsters that summon more of themselves.

 

I mean, I'm all for being a smug sarcastic gal every once in a while but I'm trying to have a serious conversation here. I just want an explanation that's not a regurgitation of effects.

 

Maybe I just need to see it in a duel... anyone up for it? <_<

 

 

Quick and Dandy is just a pure advantage machine. Sure, they produce tokens, but the tokens are led even further for +0 Tributes and Synchros

 

Card advantage is key, and this covers it.

 

Better, less specific, less elaborate +0s exist in the game.

[BulletMan]

Pika your right. Dandy is stupid. Lets not try to take advantage as much as possible with the 2 tokens you could get and use them for stuff that I'm going to let you figure out.

 

Your so right.

 

I'm just saying there are better card combos for the task of Synchroing. And the minor extra plant stuff with Lonefire Blossom is minor and insignificant to the point of being a detriment when it comes to drawing. Lonefire's useless without the tokens in place. Lion is useless without a quick way to discard it' date=' etc etc.

 

[b']Yeah, people use Dandy in Plants. Just that it still creates plenty of advantage + Tytannial Tributes.[/b]

 

Simpler ways to get from point A to Point B exist, from monsters not destroyed by battle to monsters that summon more of themselves.

 

...IDK when I mentioned something like this...You could just send it from the Deck/Hand/Field to Grave. You got +2, slimmed the Deck if ya did it from there. It can do a lot.

 

I mean, I'm all for being a smug sarcastic gal every once in a while but I'm trying to have a serious conversation here. I just want an explanation that's not a regurgitation of effects.

 

So u r a gal. But I'll try to give you a good descrption. If you were to do something to Dandy as a cost, you basically gave your self more by doing that. Dandy just makes good +1s and even +2s at the right time/when you want. Dandy is more bendible to other Decks unlike other cards.

 

Maybe I just need to see it in a duel... anyone up for it? <_<

 

You need to, but I can't...

 

I hope I explained it well enough. >______>

[byak]

Pika your right. Dandy is stupid. Lets not try to take advantage as much as possible with the 2 tokens you could get and use them for stuff that I'm going to let you figure out.

 

Your so right.

 

I'm just saying there are better card combos for the task of Synchroing. And the minor extra plant stuff with Lonefire Blossom is minor and insignificant to the point of being a detriment when it comes to drawing. Lonefire's useless without the tokens in place. Lion is useless without a quick way to discard it' date=' etc etc.[/u']

 

Simpler ways to get from point A to Point B exist, from monsters not destroyed by battle to monsters that summon more of themselves.

 

I mean, I'm all for being a smug sarcastic gal every once in a while but I'm trying to have a serious conversation here. I just want an explanation that's not a regurgitation of effects.

 

Maybe I just need to see it in a duel... anyone up for it? <_<

 

 

Quick and Dandy is just a pure advantage machine. Sure' date=' they produce tokens, but the tokens are led even further for +0 Tributes and Synchros

 

Card advantage is key, and this covers it.[/quote']

 

Better, less specific, less elaborate +0s exist in the game.

 

Just saying, Dandylion just needs to be sent to the grave.

So Ryko, Charge, Foolish, etc. can mill it.

Debris can bring it back to sync.

If LaDD nukes the field with this in play you get tokens.

You could tribute this for the effect of Tytannial if that ever happens and +3.

Derp Quickdraw. Drill Warrior can discard this to RFP, then come back and add it to your hand.

 

Best opening move I've seen is Quickdraw discard Dandy, sync for lv6 warrior, summon Debris, SS Dandy, sync for Stardust using token, Dandy, and Debris and gain two more counters.

That puts you at 7 cards total on your first turn.

Not to mention I've drawn that quite a few times.

 

Also, I could duel you over network if you want to. :l

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Yeah' date=' people use Dandy in Plants. Just that it still creates plenty of advantage + Tytannial Tributes.[/b']

 

I'm not so blind I can't see the appeal in plants. I'm wondering why it suddenly gained mass appeal in rather unimpressive deck.

 

...IDK when I mentioned something like this...You could just send it from the Deck/Hand/Field to Grave. You got +2' date=' slimmed the Deck if ya did it from there. It can do a lot.[/b']

 

Send from hand isn't impressive, as already mentioned Fires of Doomsday and Scapegoat and whatever other crap I mentioned 3 or 4 posts ago does the same. And yeah, you get a synchro without wasting your normal summon, but the Synchros you get are pretty lame overall.

 

Yeah, getting it from the deck might be nice, but Foolish Burial for +2 tokens? You were better off using that Instant Fusion or etc etc instead. I mean, it might be alright if you randomly milled it with Charge or during your endphase or whatever but that then hits another problem if it pops up when you weren't expecting it. You don't have another tuner coming for the next few turns (and you know this because you can read the future) so by the time you get your... what tuner are all the hip kids running? Aqua Spirit? By the time you draw into Aqua Spirit it'll be too late.

 

So u r a gal. But I'll try to give you a good descrption. If you were to do something to Dandy as a cost' date=' you basically gave your self more by doing that. Dandy just makes good +1s and even +2s at the right time/when you want. Dandy is more [i']bendible[/i] to other Decks unlike other cards.

 

So u weren't gonna give me a good description if I was male? <_<

... *overthinking* <_<

 

The whole "using a decent card as a cost" isn't a new strat. It's been around since way back when, even back when I still hit up the locals everyday. Mezuki, Necro Gardna, PlagueSpreader Zombie, Vayu, and even earlier with Treeborn, the fifth target for Pot of Avarice, the dark monster to go with the light monster to SS your BLS-Envoy. Hell, as embarassing as it is to admit, (this was back when no one knew any of the rules or, more specifically, the banlist) my deck was 3x Blue Eyes, 3x Monster Reborn, 3x Card Destruction. It's just a moddified version of the traditional dump and revive that's been around since like... 2001.

 

Which is why I'm baffled why people treat it as the second coming. And even if they don't treat it as the second coming, they treat it like some ground breaking combo that hasn't been going on for the past 9 years or something. I just see it as an obvious combo, a "been there, done that" that hasn't picked up any notable tricks since the last time it was seen.

 

I do look forward to eating my words though. I like to believe perhaps that some cards aren't as awful as they originally look but... my sense of judgment clouds my emotions.

 

 

 

Just saying' date=' Dandylion just needs to be sent to the grave.

So Ryko, Charge, Foolish, etc. can mill it.[/quote']

Other then Foolish, the tokens may end up on the field at an inopportune time. You mill for Dandylion and yay, get two tokens. But you have no Synchros or Monarchs or LADD or anything ready.

 

Debris can bring it back to sync.

"This card cannot be used as a Synchro Material Monster' date=' except for the Synchro Summon of a Dragon-Type Synchro Monster."

 

I'll be the first to admit I'm not familiar with the newer cards. What, besides Black Rose Dragon which is limited, would this Synchro for?

 

If LaDD nukes the field with this in play you get tokens.

 

Bad move. Opponent swings into Dandylion. Dandylion activates. LADD negates and loses 500.

 

You could tribute this for the effect of Tytannial if that ever happens and +3.

Tytannial just makes the deck much more of a cluster**** then it already is in my opinion.

 

Derp Quickdraw. Drill Warrior can discard this to RFP' date=' then come back and add it to your hand.[/quote']

 

Best opening move I've seen is Quickdraw discard Dandy' date=' sync for lv6 warrior, summon Debris, SS Dandy, sync for Stardust using token, Dandy, and Debris and gain two more counters.

That puts you at 7 cards total on your first turn.[/quote']

 

Tokens aren't cards. Otherwise Scapegoat's a +3. It looks like a decent-ish opening move but I still remain unconvinced. It's too combo oriented to be pulled off consistently.

 

Not to mention I've drawn that quite a few times.

 

Cool. Try either shuffling your deck before you duel next time or dueling an opponent who shuffles your deck.

 

Also' date=' I could duel you over network if you want to. :l[/quote']

 

Unless "network" is the cool new nickname they gave YVD, I'll pass.

[Canadian]

Dandy is really versatile in being able to synchro and provide fooders for decent Decks like monarchs or various plant builds. Even if it gets milled you get 2 sticks.

 

I'm really amazed that theres somebody that doesn't think this is a good card in quickdraw and other decks.

 

PS: I don't want to compete in this argument. Looks scarry.

[Toffee.]

Then why did the deck top the Jump?

 

Original new deck and no one quite knew WTF to side against it. It's one of those WTF decks that throws everyone off guard at first.

Just like Debris Control ;)

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Dandy is really versatile in being able to synchro and provide fooders for decent Decks like monarchs or various plant builds. Even if it gets milled you get 2 sticks.

 

0/0 is not a stick... <_<

 

I'm really amazed that theres somebody that doesn't think this is a good card in quickdraw and other decks.

 

I think it's good in quickdraw because it's either they play it and get some slight benefit out of it or they play nothing and get nothinged all over their face. I mean' date=' I can see the appeal in some decks but it's like... "so what?"

 

PS: I don't want to compete in this argument. Looks scarry.

 

It's not an argument, it's a discussion! =D

 

The point of this discussion is to educate me, and perhaps other like minded duelists who don't have the courage to stand up, into what's the big deal about this card.

[Canadian]

I always thought a stick was just something that can take 1 hit before going to the Grave. Looks like I'm still learning something new every day.

 

I also know how you can feel like, How the hell does 2 0/0 tokens do anything superior for me. Well really, they don't. But its just the hundreds of cards people can use them for which makes them cool beans.

[byak]

It would actually help if you could post your build, in case you're missing something that makes it a batter build, and then you'd duel again and get a new opinion. Maybe?

[Guest PikaPerson01]

I'm much too rich and good looking to bother being original. I just netdecked the opening post in this topic:

 

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-199516.html

[byak]

I'm much too rich and good looking to bother being original. I just netdecked the opening post in this topic:

 

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-199516.html

 

Try

-1 Battle Fader

-1 Caius (Or Raiza, whatever)

 

+1 Hamster

+1 Card Trooper

 

Could also throw in additional Hamster and PSZ, not exactly sure what to take out though.