Expelsword Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 There's a lot of contenders out there, but I'd have to go with... Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End Monster Reborn and Crush Card Virus are up there though what do you all think? is there a general idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Pot of Greed, Raigeki, Harpie's Feather Duster, Graceful Charity, Snatch Steal Absolutely every deck ever could be improved by the inclusion of any of those cards. Honorable mentions to Yata Garasu, Last Turn and Exchange of the Spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Snatch StealAt most, Snatch Steal would be another Brain Control/Change of Heart. But theres always the possibility of:-Opponent chains a card that destroys it-You keep the monster for X number of turns, which also has the possibility of option 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Snatch StealAt most' date=' Snatch Steal would be another Brain Control/Change of Heart.[/quote'] It's a permanent Brain Control though... at the "cost" of giving your opponent 1000 LP. You really don't think that's overpowered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Snatch StealAt most' date=' Snatch Steal would be another Brain Control/Change of Heart.[/quote'] It's a permanent Brain Control though... at the "cost" of giving your opponent 1000 LP. You really don't think that's overpowered? Obveiously it IS, since the monster would usually have AT LEAST 1000 ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeonark Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Snatch StealAt most' date=' Snatch Steal would be another Brain Control/Change of Heart.[/quote'] It's a permanent Brain Control though... at the "cost" of giving your opponent 1000 LP. You really don't think that's overpowered? Run Simochi right next to it.Then troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 While it's true Pot of Greed is a fantastic card, actually mentioned by name in the original rule book under: cards to include (along with Raigeki, Change of Heart and Monster Reborn) it cannot win a game by itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End Answered your own question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End Answered your own question... Except that CED doesn't FTK, so it's inferior to a few other banned cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 My choice: Pot of Greed. That card would benefit every single deck. There isn't one that you wouldn't want it in. I find it funny how there are several cards whose effect's still need pot of greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End Answered your own question... Except that CED doesn't FTK' date=' so it's inferior to a few other banned cards.[/quote'] Still... for me and the anime is the most broken card -.- xD maybe Konami thinks that too xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCodyPwns Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Painful Choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakupenguin Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 raigeki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Wright~ Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Cathedral of Nobles, if it were in English. In English, Makyura the Destructor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 While it's true Pot of Greed is a fantastic card' date=' actually mentioned by name in the original rule book under: cards to include (along with Raigeki, Change of Heart and Monster Reborn) it cannot win a game by itself[/quote'] That's stupid. You're stupid. Don't talk to me anymore. ... But on a serious note, saying that Pot of Greed cannot win a game by itself is an utterly worthless statement, since no card out there can win a game by itself. Even if you're going to be a smarmy jerk and go "Lol JD, Lol DAD, Lol CED-Envoy"... 4 lightsworn, 3 darks, one light one dark. And then there's that pesky 5000-ish life points you haven't cleared yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Exchange of the Spirit, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Well CED-EooE gets really CLOSE to winning when he's summoned there's no telling what Pot of Greed will toss you *it is still a VERY good card* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 More to honorable mentions: Witch of the Black Forest and Confiscation.(screw Forceful Sentry) CED is pretty amazing. I would say Yata, but it requires at least a little game advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 I never considered Painful Choice but your right. I'm putting it as my 2nd. It's just ... so utterly abusable in a TONE of decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolTama Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Dark Strike Fighter will cry if he isn't mentioned here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Dark Strike Fighter will cry if he isn't mentioned here. But Mass driver is almost an identical substitute. Dark was just banned because he's a generic synchro that can be splashed into any deck. For OTK decks with him, theres other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombiepromking Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Snatch StealAt most' date=' Snatch Steal would be another Brain Control/Change of Heart.[/quote'] It's a permanent Brain Control though... at the "cost" of giving your opponent 1000 LP. You really don't think that's overpowered? Obveiously it IS, since the monster would usually have AT LEAST 1000 ATK. Snatch steal is something hilarious in trad heal-burn. But yah, of course, what Pika and Expel said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Shapesnatch. ... Heh. Now, there are a bunch of ways to approach this problem. For example, Pot of Greed goes into every deck evar, but CED doesn't. Pot of Greed doesn't have an easy OTK, though. Raigeki is an OTK-maker of epic proportions, but it's not CERTAIN to win you the game. Here's my best example: Fiber Jar and Cyber Jar. I believe Cyber Jar has some sort of OTK associated with it, yes? But Fiber Jar completely flips the game on its head to a degree no other card in existence even approaches. That is to say, Cyber Jar is more powerful, but Fiber Jar is more bannable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Painful Choice means an inmediately JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Dark Strike Fighter will cry if he isn't mentioned here. But Mass driver is almost an identical substitute. Dark was just banned because he's a generic synchro that can be splashed into any deck. For OTK decks with him' date=' theres other stuff.[/quote'] Really now? What OTK tops Summoner Monk + any 2 Spells? It's pretty hard to beat that, especially since Summoner Monk wasn't at 1 when he was legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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