Ban List Predictions.

[El Majishan]

I know its 4 months away but based on current Tournament top 16 and such what do you think the next list will be.

 

Limited:

 

Rekindling

Infernity Launcher

Dandylion

Starlight Road

 

Semi:

 

Destiny Draw

Ryko (because everyone and their mother is running him)

 

Unlimited:

 

Bottomless Traphole

 

Anyway go YCM kun

[Cypress]

people run Ryko at 3? where have i been?

 

dandys not going anywhere.

BTH maybe

 

erythin else is a yes

[El Majishan]

people run Ryko at 3? where have i been?

 

dandys not going anywhere.

BTH maybe

 

erythin else is a yes

 

Why not Dandy? A +1 once it hits the grave seems like it should be limited to me.

[SmallieBigs]

Limited:

Rekindling

Launcher

 

Semi-Limited:

Mirage

and some other stuff i may be forgetting

 

Unlimited:

BTH

some other traps.

[byak]

Dandy shouldn't get hit because it's part of a deck that actually takes skill to play.

[El Majishan]

Dandy shouldn't get hit because it's part of a deck that actually takes skill to play.

 

So do Gb's but Gyzarus is a prob.

 

The deck does take skill but the constant +1 loop it generates is a prob.

[Cypress]

Dandy shouldn't get hit because it's part of a deck that actually takes skill to play.

 

So do Gb's but Gyzarus is a prob.

 

The deck does take skill but the constant +1 loop it generates is a prob.

 

treeborn is also a +1 but you dont see it causing much harm for the game in dedicated/skilled decks. your point?

[GenzoTheHarpist]

We can't predict anything... the meta will probably have drastically changed by then.

[El Majishan]

Dandy shouldn't get hit because it's part of a deck that actually takes skill to play.

 

So do Gb's but Gyzarus is a prob.

 

The deck does take skill but the constant +1 loop it generates is a prob.

 

treeborn is also a +1 but you dont see it causing much harm for the game in dedicated/skilled decks. your point?

 

Only one Treeborn can be on the field at a time and requires no back row, Dandy has no real restriction as to how it generates its +1. Also a loop that constantly generates advantage with no real cost is a prob.

[.dek]

We can't predict anything... the meta will probably have drastically changed by then.

[Fraz]

I know its 4 months away but based on current Tournament top 16 and such what do you think the next list will be.

 

You're an idiot if you think that has anything to do with banlists.

 

I can see trishula limited, infernity necromancer banned, one for one banned and substitoad limited/semi'd.

[Shinzuku]

WE still gotta wait for Scraps and other apparent decks, we cannot predict this now:)

C'mon YCM !:)

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

We can't predict anything... the meta will probably have drastically changed by then.

 

This

 

Bloo-D, you make a good point, but this is how I see it. Syncat was made and was a huge problem, but the entire reason for that problem was an overpowered, broken card that should never have been made. Blackwings were a fair archetype, but the main reason they are a problem today is because of DAD and Vayu, two cards that are way too powerful. LS have been a problem in the past but that's because of JD. Tele-DAD reined pretty much unopposed for an entire format, but it was the OP synchros and DAD that gave it it's power.

 

Dandywarrior on the other hand has no such thing. The deck is a fantastic example of how to create a skillful deck that doesn't need broken cards to be good. It's good because it produces advantage and can toolbox into whatever it needs. However, it doesn't use broken synchros to do it. None of the Warrior archetype synchros were bad, they were just so unaccessable. Now with Dandylion back at 2 and Quickdraw they aren't unaccessable and become a toolbox for the deck. Dandy may give +1's without a cost, but it was never really a problem card to begin with, or atleast from the little I know. The problem with it was that it allowed access to overpowered cards.

 

Why would you hit a deck that isn't a problem to the game except for being skillful?

[El Majishan]

I know its 4 months away but based on current Tournament top 16 and such what do you think the next list will be.

 

You're an idiot if you think that has anything to do with banlists.

 

I can see trishula limited' date=' infernity necromancer banned, one for one banned and substitoad limited/semi'd.

[/quote']

 

And you're a jackass if you think they don't play a part. If Konami notices a certain deck or that decks that abuse certain cards and combos are constantly topping tournaments they usually do something to weaken said deck.

 

Where are broken decks/combos proven? Oh that's right at Tournaments...Oh no wait...I'm sorry Konami just sits on their asses with their eyes closed and completely ignore the meta before they come up with their list.

 

But please explain to me how the banlist is made because I seem to be misinformed.

[Guest Zeonark]

I can see trishula limited' date=' infernity necromancer banned, one for one banned and substitoad limited/semi'd.

[/quote']

 

Wait, why? I've really only seen Trishula Summoned one time during every duel. The only time I see it being using more than once is the Trish-Frog deck thing. Other than that, it's not really bannable imo, since its effect only works when it's Summoned.

[.dek]

^^lol

[Guest Zeonark]

Why lol?

 

I just don't find Trishula broken enough to be limited. >_>

[El Majishan]

We can't predict anything... the meta will probably have drastically changed by then.

 

This

 

Bloo-D' date=' you make a good point, but this is how I see it. Syncat was made and was a huge problem, but the entire reason for that problem was an overpowered, broken card that should never have been made. Blackwings were a fair archetype, but the main reason they are a problem today is because of DAD and Vayu, two cards that are way too powerful. LS have been a problem in the past but that's because of JD. Tele-DAD reined pretty much unopposed for an entire format, but it was the OP synchros and DAD that gave it it's power.

 

Dandywarrior on the other hand has no such thing. The deck is a fantastic example of how to create a skillful deck that doesn't need broken cards to be good. It's good because it produces advantage and can toolbox into whatever it needs. However, it doesn't use broken synchros to do it. None of the Warrior archetype synchros were bad, they were just so unaccessable. Now with Dandylion back at 2 and Quickdraw they aren't unaccessable and become a toolbox for the deck. Dandy may give +1's without a cost, but it was never really a problem card to begin with, or atleast from the little I know. The problem with it was that it allowed access to overpowered cards.

 

Why would you hit a deck that isn't a problem to the game except for being skillful?

[/quote']

 

Fair enough, while I agree with you in the sense that Dandywarrior does not abuse broken cards..in other words it does not OTK, The fact that it can generate so much advantage using only 2 monsters is a prob. Other balanced decks would have a rather difficult time keeping up with the advantage it can generate. While they expend resources to deal with whatever they are facing, Dandylion just keeps generating advantage for the Dandywarrior player without any real cost to them.

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Why lol?

 

I just don't find Trishula broken enough to be limited. >_>

 

You best be trolling -_-

[Canadian]

Why lol?

 

I just don't find Trishula broken enough to be limited. >_>

 

Based on your reasoning, most people get Brionac out once just to set up an OTK (lol, it's basically an OTK format now..), so why not have him @3?

[Guest Zeonark]

Why lol?

 

I just don't find Trishula broken enough to be limited. >_>

 

Based on your reasoning' date=' most people get Brionac out once just to set up an OTK (lol, it's basically an OTK format now..), so why not have him @3?

[/quote']

 

But Brionac can keep activating its effect. Which makes the OTK easy. Trishula has it's effect when Summoned, so it doesn't set up th-

 

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You know what? I'm gonna stop since I'm not the smart player here. xD

Just wanted to say that Trish just isn't Limit-worthy in my opinion.

[Dr. Cakey]

I know its 4 months away but based on current Tournament top 16 and such what do you think the next list will be.

 

You're an idiot if you think that has anything to do with banlists.

 

I can see trishula limited' date=' infernity necromancer banned, one for one banned and substitoad limited/semi'd.

[/quote']

 

And you're a jackass if you think they don't play a part. If Konami notices a certain deck or that decks that abuse certain cards and combos are constantly topping tournaments they usually do something to weaken said deck.

 

Where are broken decks/combos proven? Oh that's right at Tournaments...Oh no wait...I'm sorry Konami just sits on their asses with their eyes closed and completely ignore the meta before they come up with their list.

 

But please explain to me how the banlist is made because I seem to be misinformed.

 

We call it lolkonami for a reason, you know. Magical Explosion hasn't come close to brushing tournament level, and Konami recently panicked and Limited it.

 

I predict Battle Fader to be Limited, possibly Semi'd. Infernities did pretty badly in this YCS, so I don't see much assault being done on them. Quickdraw.dek proved itself to be more than a fluke - I wouldn't be shocked if Konami Semi'd Quickdraw, let alone Limiting Dandylion.

[El Majishan]

I know its 4 months away but based on current Tournament top 16 and such what do you think the next list will be.

 

You're an idiot if you think that has anything to do with banlists.

 

I can see trishula limited' date=' infernity necromancer banned, one for one banned and substitoad limited/semi'd.

[/quote']

 

And you're a jackass if you think they don't play a part. If Konami notices a certain deck or that decks that abuse certain cards and combos are constantly topping tournaments they usually do something to weaken said deck.

 

Where are broken decks/combos proven? Oh that's right at Tournaments...Oh no wait...I'm sorry Konami just sits on their asses with their eyes closed and completely ignore the meta before they come up with their list.

 

But please explain to me how the banlist is made because I seem to be misinformed.

 

We call it lolkonami for a reason, you know. Magical Explosion hasn't come close to brushing tournament level, and Konami recently panicked and Limited it.

 

I predict Battle Fader to be Limited, possibly Semi'd. Infernities did pretty badly in this YCS, so I don't see much assault being done on them. Quickdraw.dek proved itself to be more than a fluke - I wouldn't be shocked if Konami Semi'd Quickdraw, let alone Limiting Dandylion.

 

They might give Infernities the LS treatment, leave them alone till they top while weakening other decks. They wont touch Quickdraw...no reason to....only Dandy.

[Dr. Cakey]

I know its 4 months away but based on current Tournament top 16 and such what do you think the next list will be.

 

You're an idiot if you think that has anything to do with banlists.

 

I can see trishula limited' date=' infernity necromancer banned, one for one banned and substitoad limited/semi'd.

[/quote']

 

And you're a jackass if you think they don't play a part. If Konami notices a certain deck or that decks that abuse certain cards and combos are constantly topping tournaments they usually do something to weaken said deck.

 

Where are broken decks/combos proven? Oh that's right at Tournaments...Oh no wait...I'm sorry Konami just sits on their asses with their eyes closed and completely ignore the meta before they come up with their list.

 

But please explain to me how the banlist is made because I seem to be misinformed.

 

We call it lolkonami for a reason, you know. Magical Explosion hasn't come close to brushing tournament level, and Konami recently panicked and Limited it.

 

I predict Battle Fader to be Limited, possibly Semi'd. Infernities did pretty badly in this YCS, so I don't see much assault being done on them. Quickdraw.dek proved itself to be more than a fluke - I wouldn't be shocked if Konami Semi'd Quickdraw, let alone Limiting Dandylion.

 

They might give Infernities the LS treatment, leave them alone till they top while weakening other decks. They wont touch Quickdraw...no reason to....only Dandy.

 

I didn't say they should, I said it's very likely they will.

[Azuh]

Quickdraw before Dandy was Semi'd was inconsistent.

 

Quickdraw are now getting Tuning. I suggest that we will see Quickdraw hit before Dandy will be

[Fraz]

We call it lolkonami for a reason' date=' you know. Magical Explosion hasn't come close to brushing tournament level, and Konami recently panicked and Limited it.

[/quote']

There was an incredibly consistent magical explosion FTK deck so they limited it and a few other components of the deck. YOu need to take into account that the japanese meta is what defines the banlist.