LuffyLaxer Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 This is thanks to Cakes Reptilliane Version. Check it out if you want to run reptillianes. The creator deck type is focused on summon The Creator and to use his effects to special summon. Many times, people misplay with him and I have to shake my head in disbelief. So I am making a Guide to what should be in a creator deck and what shouldn't be in a Creator deck.[spoiler=First Monsters]1. The Creator-Duh the base of the deck. Discard one card to special special summon one monster from the graveyard. Great way to have Field Advantage. Run 3 always. 2. The Creator Incarnate- A way of special summoning the creator. You can pri-o his effect, so bottomless won't be a issue. I run 3 in my deck, but 2 can work equally as well. 3. Summoner Monk- Great at getting The Creator Incarnate out to summon The Creator. It is also a great monster to synch into arcanite or stardust or any synchro monster. Run it. 4. Honest- Great with it's high defense, though not it's main use. It helps by keeping The Creator on the field. In builds, Run 2 5. Herald of Creation- Helps recycle the Creator. Should only run in Solid Creator Builds. in those, run 2-3. In regular builds or variants, run either 2 or side 1. 6. Ryko The lightsworn Hunter- Helps destroy obstacles. Also helps in filling graveyard with monsters for SS. Run 2. 7. Lyla- This card helps get rid of backrow. Also helps milling Important things. Run 1. 8. Kuraz The Light Monarch-Only run in his Build. Helps with draw power and destruction purposes. If running this build, run 2-3. 9.Dandylion- Token summoning and tribute Fodder. Synchro material as well. Run 1-2 depending on build. [spoiler=Spells Next]1. Trade-In- Draw card in creator decks. Main one. Run 2-3 2. Pot of Avarice- Contray to popular belief, Pot of A. is great in this deck build. Also better in deck variants. run 1-2 3. Book of Moon- great defensive tech. Enough said. run 2-3, though preferably 2 4. Cold Wave- Helps protect your monsters from traps and all other spells. Run one. 5. Monster Reincarnation- Same as JD. run 1. 2 if lightsworn variant. 6. Charge of the Light brigade- Help mill important stuff into the graveyard. Also searches out Lightsworn cards. Run 1. 7.Enemy Controller- tribute a monster to gain a monster. Easy tribute fodder and synchro material. Run 1. [spoiler=Traps]1. Beckoning Light- Recycle the Creator, Incarnate, and honest into your hand. run 1-2. 2. Starlight Road-Protects Your monsters and back-row. Stops Gyazarus. sorry, I'm not a big fan of glad beast. run 1-2. Depends on build. 3. Dark Bribe-Negates many spells and traps that destroys your monsters and protects them. run 2-3 4. Trap Stun-Negates Trap activation so you can do silly crazy s*** during your turn. run 2-3 in a deck. 5. Divine Wrath- Fills grave yard with special summoned things. Negate monster effect like Glad beast and Ryko. 6. Blast with A Chain- Only ran in Kuraz Variants. Helps with draw engine and destroying cards on the field. Run 2. Where are the Staples? I don't need to include them because they are staples. They are obvious. Extra Deck=Whatever you want. [spoiler=Good Variants]Mix with1. Lightsworn-The mill makes drawing them much easier to get at.2. Flamvells- The Synching is crazy. Rekindling is awesome.3. Geminis- Nice to bring out beat-sticks and additional effects is awesome4. Plants-Adds to the special summoning that makes them more awesome5. Zombies-Same with Plants. 6. Warriors-One of my favorite deck types. It revives it.7. Dragons-Blue Eyes is the best, but other dragon builds are okay with it. [spoiler=Good Plays]1. One Good play for this deck is the set-up of the graveyard. Primary, depending on the variant of creator deck you run, You must be able to send things to the grave. Zombie master, Foolish Burial, Future Fusion, burial from a D.D., and Draw cards like Trade-In are great to get things in the grave. 2. Summoning 2 Creators. The summoning of two creators, while depleting hand, is also a good way of setting up a possible end game. Allow for more special Summoning per turn. Plus it also sets up a nice defense play. 3.Summoner Monk. Really, I shouldn't have to explain The Monk to you. [spoiler=Bad Plays]1. Summoning two creators on the first turn. This, not only makes you lose hand advantage, but also field advantage. now the opposing player know what your going to do before you do it. Pretty much your setting up for failure. 2. Relying on topdeck. If you build your creator deck right, you shouldn't need to rely on it. You should be able to work with what you draw. Relying on topdeck will cause you to lose focus. 3. Pot of A. Early. Especially with Flamvells and LS, this is a bad thing to do early game. You wait until the right moment, which would be when going for game to do so. [spoiler=Important Rulings]1. The Creators Effect. You must have a monster in the grave before using it. Also You can't send a monster, and then summon the monster you just sent. The Target has to be in the grave. 2. Incarnate's effect. Incarnate get prio before bottemless or trap hole and other things like that. [spoiler=How to Counter Anti-Meta]1. Necrovalley-You must add One for one destruction at any cost. Gravekeepers will oppress the deck, so you will want to add stuff like Ancient Fairy Dragon and Divine Wrath, which takes care of most of the deck. 2. Thunderkings- Again, one for one destruction is good here. Fissure or smashing is good. Bottomless is also a very good option. 3. Doomcailber Knights- Not much you can do to them except one for one destruction. Don't waste a normal summon on them. It will be a bad play. 4. Royal Oppression- Royal Oppression really hurts the deck. MST and Heavy will get rid of it quickly. Will add more LaterEdited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 You also might want to put up a few sample builds, along with a little more detail about the Creator and what makes him so great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 What is Prio-o ? You could also get maybe Hardened Armed Dragon, and/or a variant where you get to remove from play the Creator and get it back. Also, since Cold Wave is limited, Trap Stun would be a good suggestion. I happen to have 3 Creators in my stuff along with most of what you said. I might try to do something but don't really have any solid ideas.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 I happen to have 3 Creators in my stuff along with most of what you said. I might try to do something but don't really have any solid ideas.. Case in point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Gideon. Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Creator was God back in the time when he was first released. But nowadays ... NOCreator can never see play in compettive decks again, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Chaos™ Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Like Omega Devil said, The Creator was a God when it was released. Now someone would rather play the Dark Creator than him since he is much more useful in DARK Decks which are in the current Meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Now mentioning current meta. I've seen that EARTH has been slowly climbing.(example: Machina, X-Sabers, Naturia?, Supah Nimble, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Chaos™ Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Well i thought Machina and X-Sabers would at least win a couple of Shonen Jumps, at least 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Creator was God back in the time when he was first released. But nowadays ... NOCreator can never see play in compettive decks again' date=' ever.[/quote'] I use creator in my builds and I got to locals and top with him. @ cake. I've got some builds in my signature. Trap stun is a good Idea. Dragons is also a good use for the creator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Things that you can learn from this "guide": - Creator should be used in a Creator deck.- *insert a staple here* is good.- *insert a popular engine here* should probably work. EDIT: Add stuff like:- How does the deck work- Tech cards. (Not obvious ones)- Good plays- Bad plays- Important rulings- How to counter popular decks- How to protect yourself from popular anti-meta cardsetc .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Things that you can learn from this "guide": - Creator should be used in a Creator deck.- *insert a staple here* is good.- *insert a popular engine here* should probably work. You learn something new everyd- owait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Things that you can learn from this "guide": - Creator should be used in a Creator deck.- *insert a staple here* is good.- *insert a popular engine here* should probably work. EDIT: Add stuff like:- How does the deck work- Tech cards. (Not obvious ones)- Good plays- Bad plays- Important rulings- How to counter popular decks- How to protect yourself from popular anti-meta cardsetc .... This is solid advice. I'ma apply it to my guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Thanks Manjoume. I will try to finish the edits tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 I used to run a Creator Deck back when Disk Commander was legal (before PTDN). I tell ya, that deck was SOOO good. It was like Perfect Circle, except Treeborn Frog revived with a discard, but gave me a +2. Edit: However, this was 3 years ago, when Disk Commander was actually still around. I'd not recommend you run this again, until Disk Commander were legal again, I guess? o_0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 This is why I love PikaPerson. But Yeah, It was fun back in the golden days of yugi-oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Chaos™ Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Well yeah in the old Days when we didn't have Dark Counterparts or Judgment Dragon or actually any of these cards that Nuke the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 ? Raigeki, Harpie's Feather Duster, and Dark Hole would like a word with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Gideon. Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 ? Raigeki' date=' Harpie's Feather Duster, and Dark Hole, [b']CED, BLS, Tribe Infecting Virus, ...[/b] would like a word with you. Well yeah in the old Days when we didn't have Dark Counterparts or Judgment Dragon or actually any of these cards that Nuke the field. Believe me dude, CED days were alot more worse than JD days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 You guys are missing Torrental Tribute in your arguments :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 This is a guide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuffyLaxer Posted June 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Yeah it's a guide. Why don't you see the title? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 I have yet to find something that is not obvious here. I think that you must read some good guides first. Try TCGPlayer or dig up some old metagame articles. That Jason guy is a pretty good writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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